ridiculous 8-ball game rule.

well, im not going to flame you, no reason for it.
as far as taking what you make on break, i think that rule should be done away with, you said something about those who cant call shots but like to rely on slop pool. well personally, i think take what you make on break is a slop pool rule.
Any legal shot should be the called object ball in the called pocket, unless its an immediate obvious shot.

but I do agree, slop pool can kiss my ass :D
 
Hail Mary Shot said:
went out to get some action last night. saw someone and asked to play me. 8 ball rules were not mentioned since I thought it was unnecessary, big mistake. so my opponent fouled, so I took BIH which surprised him. asked me why I took the CB, I said you fouled. then he says "NO", ball stays where it lies and you got 2 turns whenever your opponent fouls. you miss on your 1st attempt then you have a 2nd chance. if you made a ball in your 1st attempt, then your 2nd chance is nullified. and if you foul in your 1st attempt, it nullifies your 2nd attempt automatically and your turn ends and I take up 2 chances just the same. and on the last ball, only 1 attempt, regardless of a foul. in a scratch, CB goes back in the kitchen. I said "WHAT?" I never heard of this kind of rule before. that is a ridiculous rule. what if both of us intentionally fouls the ball or refused to play? I argued with the guy, why would you punish your opponent for your own mistake. the guy just says, it's the rules. so ok, we played his rules for the benefit of having some action, eventhough it pissed me and made us appear like a bunch of morons playing Uumpaa Luumpa rules. I punished him with safeties. he kepts on fouling. I won eventually 3-1. but the experience wasn't that nice and didn't feel good about the win. hopefully, in the future that guy studies the rules properly and learn to accept them. I just feel so embarrassed right now. :o

Sorry, just wanted some outlet for my frustration. :(


i played some guys from uganda that played by those rules. i think those're more european rules
 
that's why i try to avoid playing on bar tables. and playing 8 ball for that matter. too many differences in rules. a lot of league players have a standard way of thnking of the rules and they get upset when other people don't play by the same rules
 
Here is a funny one. I was playing a guy some eight ball and had to bank the eight ball cross corner and it touched the foot rail on its way into the pocket. The guy said I loose because I did not call that rail. I told him I have never heard anything so redicules but let him it go. I waited for him to shoot the eight ball straight in and it touched the rail on its way to the pocket. I told him you loose, you did not call that rail.
 
I do wholeheartedly agree that a lot of unnecessary slop has been allowed to not only creep into the standardized rules, but also be deemed as acceptable (unquestionably) by the pool community.

It's one thing to get nitpicky about every tiny little assinine detail... Definite overkill... Spare me...

It's quite another when you do something like call a pocket for a relatively straightforward and obvious shot. Then when they shoot the shot, it does something like hit both tits, bounce out, hit a rail, and then return to the called pocket. Or you aim to make a ball straight into a pocket, miss it by half a diamond, but the ball goes 3 more rails, and then back to the called pocket (classic 4 rail shot, that can be made intentionally as called). You know, obviously crazy shots, which happen to go into the right pocket.

Some slop items can be removed quite easily without adding assinine argumentative situations.

For example, CASE adjustment or NUNAR case rule...
No Unintentional Non-Adjacent Rail during the course of a shot.

Thus, if a shot glances off a side rail as it goes into the pocket... no problem.
But if it hits an opposite rail, that clearly wasn't intended, and happens to return by luck to the pocket, then it's an unacceptable shot.

Yet classic bank shots aren't affected by the rule, because they are clearly intentional non-adjacent rails (rather than unintentional non-adjacent rails).

And if someone wants to do the crazier shot, using some seemingly awkward or extra rules, then all they have to do is call it, as they should anyway. If someone is going to purposefully use extra rails than what's obvious, then as an opponent it's nice to be informed pre-shot, because in some/many cases it can be a learning experience (watch and maybe learn something from it). And, when you see them execute it as they called it, the awwwww impressive factor is increased. You don't have that doubt in the back of your head, that says did he really mean to do that, which of course many egotists (usually jerks too) always try to claim and capitalize on, "Errrrr, I meant to do that".

So, it gets the best of both/all worlds. Removes a clearly slop aspect, without adding to assinine arguments.
 
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will8834 said:
Here is a funny one. I was playing a guy some eight ball and had to bank the eight ball cross corner and it touched the foot rail on its way into the pocket. The guy said I loose because I did not call that rail. I told him I have never heard anything so redicules but let him it go. I waited for him to shoot the eight ball straight in and it touched the rail on its way to the pocket. I told him you loose, you did not call that rail.

I've been told if the ball contacts the rail within one diamond of the called pocket, you don't have to call the rail.

I think a lot of nit picking done in straight 8 is meant to throw one off of their game. Calling every kiss rail and carom. I particularly don't like the 8 must go clean rule. It takes talent to carom any ball into an intended pocket.

Banger
 

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