Road Player wins tour stop but wants to remain anonymous

[macguy]

Opinions are opinions and everyone is entitled to one, even us JACKOFFS and all others. The problem here is that the picture should never have been taken.
We run a regional tour in Texas and never would even consider taking a picture like this, much less submitt it.
Maybe we, as Jackoffs. look at this weirdly, but we feel we have a responsibility to a lot of people to be as honest and straightforward as wwe can possibly be.
There are players and tour members who are the first we owe to be honest with. Without them, we have nothing. Now, if they decide to matchpu a nd fo off, that is their decision.
We have sponsors who give us good money to protect their good name and the integrity of the tour and the game.
Many of us have calcuttas and have loyal bidders and buyers and I certainly feel I have a responsibility to be as honest as possible with them. If not, they are gone with a bad attitude and feel like they have been cheated.
So, if a big time road player comes through and doesn't want to give uup his name or a little about himself, he can go on down the road.
We have never had that problem though. Jeremy. Hillbilly, Gabe, Corey,Cliff.Danny Medina, Danny Bassavich, Jose, Sylver, Jason,Rodney, and even Ronnie Allen, just to name a few, were very gracious and understood why we did what we did and I think even respected it. Now, they trust us.
Love,
The Jackoff

My reference was mainly to the posts about who beat who for how much and so on, your basic pool detectives who now have the net to make themselves feel important talking about other peoples private matters. If I or you match up in a pool room or bar and gamble it is no ones business what we are playing for or even the out come much less see it posted on news groups like this, that was my point. Few pool players are anything close to what can be described a public property and can have their photo published without their permission. In reality anyone entering a tournament though can expect to see something about it somewhere if they do well, that would be neive not to think so, but the ones doing the posting I don't feel have the right even though they will probably do it anyway. I thing some time back Grady addressed this issue about privacy. Best not to play in tournaments if you want to remain completely anonymous. I doubt few here would like to see personal stuff posted about themselves like financial records credit reports and so on. The net has just opened up a whole new world for the and I will use the same word "Jack off's" who like to be in everybodies business for no reason. I seriously doubt you fall into that category but many do.

 

[henho]

As for the question of whether having his picture taken would actually have any effect, yes it would. If you google a player, AZ is usually the site that comes up, and I've done this several time to find out about someone's speed.

 

[Snapshot9]

I don't know ...

James Walden or Gabe Owen never pulled a stocking cap
down over their face when they got pictures taken from
winning local tournaments, and I am positive they have
played more money in more places than this guy can even
think of.

on the other hand, I would have appreciated a picture of
Danny Basavich on the net before he came here and hung
around for 4 months ... lol

 

[MikeJanis]

Hey gang, I have one that I really want to get off my chest. I received the usual slew of tourney results from this weekend and received the following picture from one of the tour events.

It seems that the winner is a road player and doesn't want his picture on the internet (presumably because it will kill his action).

The room owner and sponsors of the tour added money and/or product to make the event a success and they do that in exchange for the promotion from the event. I assume this player didn't offer to give the money back that he won since he was not allowing the tour to promote those sponsors properly.

Am I wrong at thinking this sort of thing is very 'dark ages' and is doing nothing at all for the game of pool?

Mike

Yes Mike this is from the dark ages. But since you may be privy to some info please post all that came in. If someone sent you the results, we (I) would like to know any info that was given. Please post what you have.

On the Viking Tour we no longer allow players to play under road names (since 1997/8?. They may use nick names as long as everyone knows who they are, such as, Kid Delicious, or Dee Adkins we all know who they are even if it's not their real names. Heck, Mike Janis isn't even my real name but that's what everyone knows me by.

I only know of one major regional tour that still allows this to happen. It's in the SE. But I have no knowledge of any others. In fact, that tour even told me that a player can play under any name they choose and even switch names at different events as long as they pay a tour card fee for each name.

Can you give us any additional information please ?

Mj

 

[Eric.]

Hey gang, I have one that I really want to get off my chest. I received the usual slew of tourney results from this weekend and received the following picture from one of the tour events.

It seems that the winner is a road player and doesn't want his picture on the internet (presumably because it will kill his action).

The room owner and sponsors of the tour added money and/or product to make the event a success and they do that in exchange for the promotion from the event. I assume this player didn't offer to give the money back that he won since he was not allowing the tour to promote those sponsors properly.

Am I wrong at thinking this sort of thing is very 'dark ages' and is doing nothing at all for the game of pool?

Mike

Mike,

Seems like it's always a damned if you do and ... thing.

Personally, I think the player should have never snapped off the event if he's ducking. He got greedy and blew his own cover. Pretty dumb way of staying below radar. The player is now a "known" guy and has no one to blame but himself.


Eric >life's a *****

 

[azhousepro]

Or maybe it was the fact that he told the tour director that he was a road player and didn't want his picture taken?

Maybe he is the one that has been doing all the posting all over the internet attacking you for all these years.

Oops, I forgot. You already figured out who that was with your brilliant powers of deduction. Nice work Chumley.

How do you know why he didn't want his picture taken?

-Maybe he was hiding from his parol officer
-Maybe he didn't want to report income to the IRS
-Maybe he was hiding from Gremlin, who has been know for threatening to shoot people like Fast Larry.
-Maybe he is ugly
-Maybe he had a breakout of the hives from being so nervous
-Maybe he had a pimple he wanted to hide
-Maybe he didn't want his wife or girl friend to know where he was
-Maybe he is an illegal immigrant

-Maybe he just wanted to piss you off Mike

I think this is very funny and you seem to be the butt of the joke.

 

[NaClBandit]

http://www.mdpromotions.com/

I played in this tournament. The masked man could play. It was very apparent early that he was going to breeze through the tournament. I'm surprised he lost a match.

For those of you who know Mark R., is he a room owner? If so, where?

 

[azhousepro]

I have been told numerous times that a player who cashed in an event didn't want his name listed and I have even been told after one event that the big story was a sixteen year old kid who beat Earl in the event. The kids dad didn't want his name used because he had 'big plans' for his son.

It just seems to me that this is the sort of thing that keeps the game held back and struggling (where it has been for years and years and years).

Mike

This is really a big issue with you, how many times has this happened? I am guessing this is the first time ever.

 

[pooldogue]

He use to own Renasaince Billiards in Quincy.Mass he has since sold the room........... What name was the masked man going by??? Did he ask Curly not to take his picture??

 

[Dave in Boston]

Mark Ransom used to own a pool hall in Quincy MA he just actualy sold it.

 

[NaClBandit]

He use to own Renasaince Billiards in Quincy.Mass he has since sold the room........... What name was the masked man going by??? Did he ask Curly not to take his picture??

Marc's website lists him as "Gary Fraser", but I didn't catch his name at the tournament itself. Plus Marc's chicken scratch on the tournament board is basically illegible, ha. I did chat with his girlfriend a bit, who said he played "okay", haha, she's definitely in on the hustle too.

Someone said that he plays Efren EVEN in one pocket. This didn't sound believable to me, but he was probably one of the best non-pros I've ever seen play, so who knows.

I don't know if he asked not to be photographed, I left before the semis.

 

[pooldogue]

Yep, an asian girlfreind im sure unless he got a new one from the last time he was in this area......He is the most underrated player i have evr seen play.....Ive seen him get weight from players then go to even playing and then give more weight than he was getting originally and still win............ He plays unbeleivable and yes i heard he plays Efren even in pockets also but never saw this........ He has always used his first name but changes his last from time to time..................................

 

[jay helfert]

Identity revealed:

Good for you!

 

[jay helfert]

That problem, is the net. On boards like this you get every jackoff writing about people most of who they don't even know to just to sound important. Who this guy is is no ones business and no one has the right to post a picture of him in my opinion.

I have to go along with the earlier post "Why did he pose for the picture?".
My feeling is once he's posed it's too late to protest. He could have easily said "no pictures please".

 

[macguy]

I have been told numerous times that a player who cashed in an event didn't want his name listed and I have even been told after one event that the big story was a sixteen year old kid who beat Earl in the event. The kids dad didn't want his name used because he had 'big plans' for his son.

It just seems to me that this is the sort of thing that keeps the game held back and struggling (where it has been for years and years and years).

Mike

It does seem kind of silly now a days. I remember seeing a picture years ago on the cover of a billiard Mag once with Jimmy Reid winning a tournament. He had the money fanned out in front of his face so you could not see him. I don't think a player should be able to sneak into a tournament uoder an assumed name. But if he doesn't want his picture taken that is his perogative not such a big deal.

 

[pooldogue]

Marc's website lists him as "Gary Fraser", but I didn't catch his name at the tournament itself. Plus Marc's chicken scratch on the tournament board is basically illegible, ha. I did chat with his girlfriend a bit, who said he played "okay", haha, she's definitely in on the hustle too.

Someone said that he plays Efren EVEN in one pocket. This didn't sound believable to me, but he was probably one of the best non-pros I've ever seen play, so who knows.

I don't know if he asked not to be photographed, I left before the semis.

In fact ive seen this guy give weight to the Canadian Womens Pro and play one handed one pocket and beat her and i dont mean beat her i mean "BEAT" her badly, kinda like she wasnt playin...............

Hes probably playin with a Paul Mottey cue....

 

[Njhustler1]

Next time, if someone subspects the winner is going to do that, snap a shot with a camera phone. At least one person usually has one. They the guy can be totally ruined for life. Set him up to be the pigeon next time he tries to do that again.

 

[Tbeaux]

Hmmm....this tournament was in Mass huh. I lived there for awhile and didn't have much to do with pool but was privy to some of the local gambling goings on. I'm sure the guy in question has good reason for wanting anonimity and it may not be for the reasons stated.
Mike you got results of a tournament to post and a pic of the winners. That's all you need concern yourself with. If the guy is trying to hide his hustler personna or maybe ducking bookies...that's his problem. Yours is AZB.

Terry

 

[breakup]

"Gary Fraser".

Gary Fraser = Gary Abood.

I could tell a story but he would take pride in it if he saw it. He got I think 3rd or 4th at the Open BCA 8 ball tourney a few years ago. Someone was fishing for info on this site about him a while back I don't know if there was any response.

I am not just giving up his name causally, in my book he deserves no respect.

 

[Cane]

Mike, Personally, I think since it's YOUR tour, you should be able to use the image or likeness of any player that ponies up the entry fee. If a road player doesn't want his picture shown, then don't enter the tournament.

Maybe you should have a standard entry form that says that on it, that the players sign when they sign up for the tournament. If they refuse the image us, then they don't get the cash. I'm sure an attorney could insure that it's worded properly and loophole free.

JMO,
Bob