Ron Swanson

Straightpool_99 said:
Look. I don't want to argue with you or anybody else about CTE. All your bickering and aggressive demeanor is very off putting to me and I suspect many who would otherwise take part. The technical aspects and philosphy of CTE has little to no interest to me anymore. You can claim whatever you want, for all I care. There are plenty of people more qualified than me to comment on actual physical, real world claims, physicists, mathematicians, Dr's of engineering...I'll bow to their expertise on this matter. So far I don't see too much to refute my position.

But yes I find aiming methods interesting, both as an intellectual exercise, as well as physically testing them on the table.

If you don't want to tell me about that system, that's fine, but I'm not going to be making any "deals" with you or anybody else. I asked out of curiosity, as a fellow pool player. I am a curious person in all aspects of life. I guess I tend to forget to whom I'm talking sometimes.

I will post in any thread I damned well please! Why is it so important to YOU what I post or do not post? You have allready denounced all that are critical of your system and great leader as "nobodies", is that not enough for you? Must you also censor and silence them? I've never claimed to be anybody. Just a pool enthusiast, who is more interested in aiming system and obscure pool games than maybe the average player.
Make your own "CTE'ers only" threads. I won't post in those. But you sure did post in English' thread when he explicitly asked you not to.

You have 5 or 6 CTE "enforcers" jumping all over anyone that posts anything remotely critical about your system and your tactics have succeeded in scaring off anyone wanting to discuss anything. Now there are maybe 20 people who ever post in the aiming forum, of whom maybe 15 are active posters on a regular basis. Whatever will you do when the 6 of you chase away the rest and get tired of agreeing with each other?

Tell you what, though: You should make a "by invitation only" CTE-sub forum right here on AzB. That way you'll never encounter another dissenting opinion ever again. Because that sort of environment is always positive for personal development and growth. If you do decide to do so, I'll pledge 20 dollars for badges or whatever you chose to wear to identify yourselves. And I wholeheartedly promise never to ask for an invitation.
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Tsk, tsk, tsk. What a harsh knee jerk reaction from such an innocuous question I posed. Sounds like you do have an agenda and like starting or prolonging flame wars. Do your thing.

Based on your post and how you phrased it, good luck. Everyone of those aiming systems I listed is out there with descriptions. Find them. I guess I forgot to whom I was talking when I was going to take my time and effort to write out the entire method for a fellow pool player. I should have known better.
 
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SpiderWebComm said:
Tsk, tsk, tsk. What a harsh knee jerk reaction from such an innocuous question I posed. Sounds like you do have an agenda and like starting or prolonging flame wars. Do your thing.

Based on your post and how you phrased it, good luck. Everyone of those aiming systems I listed is out there with descriptions. Find them. I guess I forgot to whom I was talking when I was going to take my time and effort to write out the entire method for a fellow pool player. I should have known better.
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I don't think my reaction was in any way harsh. You asked me not to post anymore about CTE. I don't think there is a postitive spin to be put on that, however sweetly one phrases it. You'll be happy to know, that you'll get what you want anyway (like I said I'm fed up with the CTE debate), but I wanted to make it absolutely clear that you telling me (in nicer words) to **** off would have no influence on that decision.

Why are we even talking about this, the thread was on Nick Barrow? Like I said, he enjoys a great deal of respect in the snooker world, but he is also a businessman. He has a 10(!) DVD set on fundamentals etc..and some kind of electronic gizmo to measure your stroke parameters ( 400£...). He is probably the most prolific and successful coaching material salesman in the snooker world. Also he dresses like a Bond-villain, not that that has anything to do with this:D. I'm sure his aiming system will sell at least moderately well. He'd sell some on his reputation alone even if it had been a horrible product. The snooker world is more sceptical and conservative than the pool world. If it truely is something remarkable, he may make a lot of money on it but my prediction is that it will be slow at first. The rumors are that it is not anything revolutionary, but I'll reserve judgement until I actually get to see it with my own eyes or at least get a review from someone I trust.

He claims that the ghostball method is not good enough withouth CIT adjustments, so I guess most people on here would agree with that. In fact everyone has had to face the problem of CIT in ghostball aiming at some point in their learning that aiming method. So we'll have to wait and see what his solution is, I guess.
 
Straightpool_99 said:
Sure he is. Lots of people will buy it too, because he is a respected coach allready. He also has tons of stuff for sale. DVD's, coaching, various gadgets etc. I don't think he's found a super secret "perfect" aiming system, because I don't think such a thing exists. That doesn't prevent peope from claiming they've found it every freaking year. You never know, maybe this time it's the real deal:rolleyes:.

Sometimes when this sort of thing is going on I'm reminded of the Jews and the state of Israel. You got to feel for them, having to endure centuries upon centuries of people claiming they're the new Messiah every year, even multiple times every day. Every time they turn one of these nuts away, they slink away mumbling threats of revenge under their breaths, some more serious than others. And boy do those people know how to hold a grudge, for centuries even! The Israelis had to implement special screening at the airport to stop the craziest ones. That kind of thing tends to wear on you after a while.
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Ok, this wins the internet for craziest analogy of the day.

I have no idea what Nik's thing is - I don't think it's a system the way we discuss them here. I think it's some sort of tool or guide like an aim trainer.
 
JB Cases said:
Ok, this wins the internet for craziest analogy of the day.

I have no idea what Nik's thing is - I don't think it's a system the way we discuss them here. I think it's some sort of tool or guide like an aim trainer.
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That was the impression I got too. Some sort of "arrow" on steroids. I sure hope it isn't because that allready exists. And it's crap. To a certain extent it does what it is supposed to, but it's a PITA to use, and I believe the educational value of using tools like this is questionable at best. Opinions may vary. I actually own one (naturally). http://www.billiardstraining.com/bat/

Regarding my analogy I was exaggerating for comedic effect. I guess I have a strange sense of humor.
 
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Straightpool_99 said:
I don't think my reaction was in any way harsh. You asked me not to post anymore about CTE. I don't think there is a postitive spin to be put on that, however sweetly one phrases it. You'll be happy to know, that you'll get what you want anyway (like I said I'm fed up with the CTE debate), but I wanted to make it absolutely clear that you telling me (in nicer words) to **** off would have no influence on that decision.
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If you got **** off out of my post, you're reading it entirely the wrong way. Maybe I should have been more clear. What I meant was posting NEGATIVELY as an ANTAGONIST about CTE in different ways when you have no clue, zero clue how any of it is performed in the setup, visuals, or how the pivot is done in MANUAL CTE. You have no experience in it at all to be able to speak intelligently about it or positively and especially negatively as you have done. It's the same way with the other NEGATIVE NELLIE'S on here. NO EXPERIENCE WITH IT NOR LEARNED. Just talking out of their butt holes regarding abstract and nebulous garbage to knock it or try to pick holes. Hey, nothing wrong with that IF they at least worked on the table with it and found problems. Then it could be discussed intelligently and we'd all be more than willing to help work through it. It's quite easy for us to determine which ones have a real desire to learn and to do it as opposed to the trolls who have an agenda to knock the system, the one who developed the system, and those who do use it successfully like WE'RE the MORONS involved in some kind of cult.
NOBODY WANTS TO SHOOT WORSE AND DESTROY THEIR GAME IF IT DIDN'T WORK!

I'm still p*ssed at your reaction and post. But I'll take part of the blame. I'm not going to write out the entire method to you after your reaction, but here's the link to almost every one of those aiming systems. Spend the money, don't be a cheapskate if you have a curiosity about them and want to continue learning. Over 500 pages and 300 illustrations.

http://www.amazon.com/Aiming-Cutting-Edge-Billiard-Book/dp/B00JXB2YQA
 
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SpiderWebComm said:
If you got **** off out of my post, you're reading it entirely the wrong way. Maybe I should have been more clear. What I meant was posting NEGATIVELY as an ANTAGONIST about CTE in different ways when you have no clue, zero clue how any of it is performed in the setup, visuals, or how the pivot is done in MANUAL CTE. You have no experience in it at all to be able to speak intelligently about it or positively and especially negatively as you have done. It's the same way with the other NEGATIVE NELLIE'S on here. NO EXPERIENCE WITH IT NOR LEARNED. Just talking out of their butt holes regarding abstract and nebulous garbage to knock it or try to pick holes. Hey, nothing wrong with that IF they at least worked on the table with it and found problems. Then it could be discussed intelligently and we'd all be more than willing to help work through it.

I'm still p*ssed at your reaction and post. But I'll take part of the blame. I'm not going to write out the entire method to you after your reaction, but here's the link to almost every one of those aiming systems. Spend the money, don't be a cheapskate if you have a curiosity about them and want to continue learning. Over 500 pages and 300 illustrations.

http://www.amazon.com/Aiming-Cutting-Edge-Billiard-Book/dp/B00JXB2YQA
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I'm not entirely sure how to react to this. So I'm going to do what I usually do in these circumstances and assume this was all a big misunderstanding on my part. In that case I truely am sorry. When I reread my post I often find the too harsh, and not exactly how I intended them to be. I'm sure if we were in the same room (with a pooltable preferably) we might have avoided some misunderstandings. Like it has allready been said by Dan White this forum has a lot of history and suspicions on both sides of the debate. I don't exempt myself from that. It's strange too, because in real life I always believe the best about people, to a fault. I've been burned more times than I can remember because of that, but in general it makes life a lot better when one has this general attitude, so I'll do my best to carry it over to my forum life as well.

That book you recommended seems interesting and comprehensive. For what it is it is not too expensive either. In fact, I wonder why I have never heard of it before? I may be a lot of things, but a cheapskate I am not. If you don't believe me, believe the tons of pool gadgets in my closet, my cue/shaft/case collection and the record I have of taking lessons from almost every instructor available to me.
 
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Straightpool_99 said:
I'm not entirely sure how to react to this. So I'm going to do what I usually do in these circumstances and assume this was all a big misunderstanding on my part. In that case I truely am sorry.

That book you recommended seems interesting and comprehensive. For what it is it is not too expensive either. In fact, I wonder why I have never heard of it before? I may be a lot of things, but a cheapskate I am not. If you don't believe me, believe the tons of pool gadgets in my closet, my cue/shaft/case collection and the record I have of taking lessons from almost every instructor available to me.
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Feel free to donate any extra gadgets to our new pool training center. I opening it this week and will be happily accepting any and all donations to expand our inventory of training devices and instructional material.
 
JB Cases said:
Feel free to donate any extra gadgets to our new pool training center. I opening it this week and will be happily accepting any and all donations to expand our inventory of training devices and instructional material.
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The postage would be more than the gift is worth. Set up a Go-fund-me campain, and I'll chip in.
 
Straightpool_99 said:
I'm not entirely sure how to react to this. So I'm going to do what I usually do in these circumstances and assume this was all a big misunderstanding on my part. In that case I truely am sorry. When I reread my post I often find the too harsh, and not exactly how I intended them to be. I'm sure if we were in the same room (with a pooltable preferably) we might have avoided some misunderstandings. Like it has allready been said by Dan White this forum has a lot of history and suspicions on both sides of the debate. I don't exempt myself from that. It's strange too, because in real life I always believe the best about people, to a fault. I've been burned more times than I can remember because of that, but in general it makes life a lot better when one has this general attitude, so I'll do my best to carry it over to my forum life as well.

That book you recommended seems interesting and comprehensive. For what it is it is not too expensive either. In fact, I wonder why I have never heard of it before? I may be a lot of things, but a cheapskate I am not. If you don't believe me, believe the tons of pool gadgets in my closet, my cue/shaft/case collection and the record I have of taking lessons from almost every instructor available to me.
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Here's what I think: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghZnEsT9x6Y

Do you live in Europe or the States?
 
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