Ronnie gets booted from Pechauer tourney?
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Ronnie Allen Disqualification
What I was told by the lady tournament director was that he was being belligerent during his match, and when she told him to calm down, he got worse by talking profanely and loudly, so she felt she had to kick him out.
This was on Saturday, and he was still in the winner's bracket, although he was behind in his match at the time....However, he matched up after the tournament in the evening with some young player for a game of 1-pocket where he was shooting one-handed....very entertaining, I would add; there was a large crowd watching.....he made quite a few fantastic one-handed shots....after 4 separate sets, he came out about 1 benjamin ahead, and the kid quit....
henho said:
What I was told by the lady tournament director was that he was being belligerent during his match, and when she told him to calm down, he got worse by talking profanely and loudly, so she felt she had to kick him out.
This was on Saturday, and he was still in the winner's bracket, although he was behind in his match at the time....However, he matched up after the tournament in the evening with some young player for a game of 1-pocket where he was shooting one-handed....very entertaining, I would add; there was a large crowd watching.....he made quite a few fantastic one-handed shots....after 4 separate sets, he came out about 1 benjamin ahead, and the kid quit....
I spoke to Carissa Biggs, the tournament director, tonight and she said he was arguing that the cue-ball was not round. That, and a number of other things. He basically showed no respect for the rules as they were set out at the beginning of the event and then told the tourney director that he was a professional player and who was she to be telling him what to do. He was warned once and finally removed from the event.
Mike
Mike
Troy said:
I was there this weekend, What a great place "California Billiards"... worth the trip from Sacramento.
I was asked if I could point out Ronnie. I said sure.. just look for an old grey headed pot bellied man with a beer in one hand and a cue in the other.
Ronnie was spotted rather quickly.
This was just before the 1pm start time.
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elanobeone
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Tom In Cincy said:
If a player has been drinking too much and refuses to calm down, talk down or follow the instructions of the ref, they should be removed from competition. It can send a powerful message. One bad egg on the floor can create a bad impression for everyone else out there.
I am a friend of Carissa's and I am sure that she a a very valid reason to remove him from the event. This situation is sad for everyone.
Eydie
Eydie
Some people do not like the old school way of pool... I myself think it's funny.. and those guys could fade shit-talking, and really play some pool... In defense of Ronnie, he could have cared less about the tournament anyhow. But, to each his own.
Not Defending Anyone But....
BY NO STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATION DO I MEAN TO SAY WHO WAS RIGHT OR WHO WAS WRONG BECAUSE IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE. ANOTHER APPROACH COULD HAVE BEEN " HEY RONNIE I KNOW THAT BALL IS OUT OF ROUND ...LET ME SWITCH CUE BALLS FOR YOU...BUT HEY PLEASE MAN THERE ARE WOMEN AND KIDS IN HERE WATCH THE CUSSING O.K.?
NOT DEFENDING JUST THINKING IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN HANDLED DIFFERENTLY...NOT BETTER....DIFFERENTLY.
OF COURSE I HAVE DEALT WITH PLAYERS AND DRINKERS MOST OF MY LIFE...AT LEAST40+ YEARS...AND I KNOW WHAT A HEADACHE THEY CAN BE....BUT SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE BIGGER PICTURE AND IMAGINE MORE THAN ONE TRESULT BEFORE YOU MAKE A MOVE.
GUARANTEE IF YOU COULD GET THE TWO OF THEM TOGETHER HE WOULD APOLOGIZE ( NOT SO HE CAN LOOK BETTER OR GET BACK ON THE TOUR) BECAUSE TODAY HE SEES IT IN A DIFFERENT LIGHT AND SO DOES SHE.
RONNIE AND MANY OTHERS (MYSELF INCLUDED) ARE FROM THE OLD SCHOOL WHICH NO LONGER EXISTS. PUT YOURSELF IN OUR SHOES AND LOOK AT THE CHANGES WE HAVE GONE THROUGH IN THIS GAME. PREPARE YOURSELVES BECAUSE LATER ON IT WILL BE THE SAME FOR YOU.
THE BOTTOM LINE IS WITH ALL HIS FAULTS AND ANY PROBLEMS HE MAY CREATE HE IS WITHOUT A DOUBT A TRUE ONE POCKET LEGEND.I WISH THERE WERE SOME FILMS WHEN HE WAS IN HIS PRIME.
I WALKED INTO A PLACE IN NORWALK CA. ONE NIGHT AND THERE WERE 6 PLAYERS WITH THEIR BACKERS LINED UP TO PLAY.
2:15 A.M. IN WALKS RONNIE " CHOCOLATE MILKSHAKE" HE YELLED OUT. tHE FIRST GUY HE PLAYED WAS A RACE TO 7 FOR $300.00. THE SPOT " YOU CAN HAVE THE 1 TO THE 8, I GET THE CRACKS, IF I MISS YOU WIN.
HE RAN 7 AND OUT THERE WERE NO MISSES.
O.K. NOW I AM RAMBLING......JUST DON'T LIKE TO HEAR SOME OF THE COMMENTS AND DESCRIPTIONS EVEN IF THEY ARE TRUE.
TITANIC JERRY
BY NO STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATION DO I MEAN TO SAY WHO WAS RIGHT OR WHO WAS WRONG BECAUSE IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE. ANOTHER APPROACH COULD HAVE BEEN " HEY RONNIE I KNOW THAT BALL IS OUT OF ROUND ...LET ME SWITCH CUE BALLS FOR YOU...BUT HEY PLEASE MAN THERE ARE WOMEN AND KIDS IN HERE WATCH THE CUSSING O.K.?
NOT DEFENDING JUST THINKING IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN HANDLED DIFFERENTLY...NOT BETTER....DIFFERENTLY.
OF COURSE I HAVE DEALT WITH PLAYERS AND DRINKERS MOST OF MY LIFE...AT LEAST40+ YEARS...AND I KNOW WHAT A HEADACHE THEY CAN BE....BUT SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE BIGGER PICTURE AND IMAGINE MORE THAN ONE TRESULT BEFORE YOU MAKE A MOVE.
GUARANTEE IF YOU COULD GET THE TWO OF THEM TOGETHER HE WOULD APOLOGIZE ( NOT SO HE CAN LOOK BETTER OR GET BACK ON THE TOUR) BECAUSE TODAY HE SEES IT IN A DIFFERENT LIGHT AND SO DOES SHE.
RONNIE AND MANY OTHERS (MYSELF INCLUDED) ARE FROM THE OLD SCHOOL WHICH NO LONGER EXISTS. PUT YOURSELF IN OUR SHOES AND LOOK AT THE CHANGES WE HAVE GONE THROUGH IN THIS GAME. PREPARE YOURSELVES BECAUSE LATER ON IT WILL BE THE SAME FOR YOU.
THE BOTTOM LINE IS WITH ALL HIS FAULTS AND ANY PROBLEMS HE MAY CREATE HE IS WITHOUT A DOUBT A TRUE ONE POCKET LEGEND.I WISH THERE WERE SOME FILMS WHEN HE WAS IN HIS PRIME.
I WALKED INTO A PLACE IN NORWALK CA. ONE NIGHT AND THERE WERE 6 PLAYERS WITH THEIR BACKERS LINED UP TO PLAY.
2:15 A.M. IN WALKS RONNIE " CHOCOLATE MILKSHAKE" HE YELLED OUT. tHE FIRST GUY HE PLAYED WAS A RACE TO 7 FOR $300.00. THE SPOT " YOU CAN HAVE THE 1 TO THE 8, I GET THE CRACKS, IF I MISS YOU WIN.
HE RAN 7 AND OUT THERE WERE NO MISSES.
O.K. NOW I AM RAMBLING......JUST DON'T LIKE TO HEAR SOME OF THE COMMENTS AND DESCRIPTIONS EVEN IF THEY ARE TRUE.
TITANIC JERRY
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onepocket
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about time someone put a pro in there place good job by director
onepocket said:
You sound like a TD. (Please put 'periods' in your posts, so that we know where one of your damned sentences ends and another begins... sheesh)
Smorgass Bored said:
How does "about time someone put a pro in there place good job by director" make this sound like a TD?
and BTW.. here are some extra periods for future use. (.....)
Smorg<------ grammer police
Tom In Cincy said:How does "about time someone put a pro in there place good job by director" make this sound like a TD?
and BTW.. here are some extra periods for future use. (.....)
Smorg<------ grammer police
Well, I happen to know that while I've been out ill and awaiting my open heart surgery (scheduled for the 31st, btw), that young mr. 'onepocket' has been the TD at Planet 9-Ball. Oddly, he doesn't put periods between his sentences when he speaks in person, either. I never know WHAT he's trying to say. Oh, and it's 'grammar police'... Doug
Tom.. do I have to get Jeanette's naked pics to out do you? lol j/k
Smorgass Bored said:
Busted... you caught the "e" for "a" ploy.. I can't get anything by you... LOL..
Good to see ya posting again Smorg.....
I happen to agree with all the posters on this thread. Titanic and Josh Palmer, though, did bring up some good points about old school vs. new school.
I have played against Ronnie in tournaments, and to my good fortune I have gotten by him a couple of times, in both 9-ball and one-pocket, but I would never in my life match-up with him for the cash; and I don't care how many beers he has drank, he always has and can still flat play.
But for those of us old school guys, which I am, two things come to mind- (1) I agree we must adjust to the new school, but (2) the new school must also be very organized, since we are pretty much talking about tournaments that are open to old & new school players.
Which brings me to an old school saying, "Let an old dog lay."
A new school saying might be, "You better be prepared if you mess with an old dog."
My consensus is that if this whole thing started over a cue-ball that Ronnie thought was out-of-round, and the establishment was already serving him beers before the tournament had even started, then give him another cue-ball.
Hence, this new cue-ball would probably seem out-of-round (in Ronnie's eyes), thus the effort to give old school vs. new school a chance to find their way together. Then take whatever action necessary, if necessary.
The thing that bothers me about this unfortunate incident, is if all that has been posted is true, and if he was so far out of line, why then was he allow to play some kid at the tournament room (after he was disqualified), if in fact he was so biligerent <I hope I spelled this right with so many grammar cops on the loose, but being old-school I really don't care).
The moral might be, shouldn't TD's and roomowners make these types of decisions together? Ronnie paid his entry just like all the other players. California billiards is a great, well run establishment, but it seems (just maybe) that the new school took a stand against the old school, and as Josh Palmer mentioned -Ronnie didn't really seem to care either.
Go old school players, go new school players, go tournament directors, go room owners, and may we all be careful of our passion... Billiards.
I have played against Ronnie in tournaments, and to my good fortune I have gotten by him a couple of times, in both 9-ball and one-pocket, but I would never in my life match-up with him for the cash; and I don't care how many beers he has drank, he always has and can still flat play.
But for those of us old school guys, which I am, two things come to mind- (1) I agree we must adjust to the new school, but (2) the new school must also be very organized, since we are pretty much talking about tournaments that are open to old & new school players.
Which brings me to an old school saying, "Let an old dog lay."
A new school saying might be, "You better be prepared if you mess with an old dog."
My consensus is that if this whole thing started over a cue-ball that Ronnie thought was out-of-round, and the establishment was already serving him beers before the tournament had even started, then give him another cue-ball.
Hence, this new cue-ball would probably seem out-of-round (in Ronnie's eyes), thus the effort to give old school vs. new school a chance to find their way together. Then take whatever action necessary, if necessary.
The thing that bothers me about this unfortunate incident, is if all that has been posted is true, and if he was so far out of line, why then was he allow to play some kid at the tournament room (after he was disqualified), if in fact he was so biligerent <I hope I spelled this right with so many grammar cops on the loose, but being old-school I really don't care).
The moral might be, shouldn't TD's and roomowners make these types of decisions together? Ronnie paid his entry just like all the other players. California billiards is a great, well run establishment, but it seems (just maybe) that the new school took a stand against the old school, and as Josh Palmer mentioned -Ronnie didn't really seem to care either.
Go old school players, go new school players, go tournament directors, go room owners, and may we all be careful of our passion... Billiards.
