Is there any sort of unsportsmanlike rule in snooker, where when the frame is already won on points, and the player keeps shooting their inning, they could do something that causes them to lose the frame?
Ronnie O'Sullivan does a jump shot - in a snooker match.
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unsportsmanlike behavior is often a monetary fine in snooker. don't know about being docked a frame for it, but maybe there's such a scenario
I think they would have to start whacking the ref with their stick. Snooker does not have the same kind of "suitable punishment" rule for bad behaviour
as at pool. ...Edit: I should have looked at the rules. In fact the ref can award the game (= match at snooker) to the opponent for a first offense if bad enough. see below
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Read the rules: Just had a rules reading moment in league play under BCAPL rules.
A fouled break was committed against my team mate. The offending young man just grabbed the balls and proceeded to re rack. My notice to team mate of improper allowing him to do that. He was, uh "oh well". So when I played the youngster next he fouled the break with a misscue that juggled the rack. But no 3 to a rail required.
I intercepted as he moved towards the rack. My statement that the rules gave Me the option. NOT HIM. His Captain was sure that he could just rake 'em and retreat 'em. Oh Hell No. Fortunately he had The Rules on his phone! Whew it took a careful reading to get understanding.
CSI / BCAPL 8 ball rules.Read the rules: Just had a rules reading moment in league play under BCAPL rules.
A fouled break was committed against my team mate. The offending young man just grabbed the balls and proceeded to re rack. My notice to team mate of improper allowing him to do that. He was, uh "oh well". So when I played the youngster next he fouled the break with a misscue that juggled the rack. But no 3 to a rail required.
I intercepted as he moved towards the rack. My statement that the rules gave Me the option. NOT HIM. His Captain was sure that he could just rake 'em and retreat 'em. Oh Hell No. Fortunately he had The Rules on his phone! Whew it took a careful reading to get understanding.
You must legally pocket a ball or cause at least four object balls to contact one or more cushions or it is an illegal break.
If your break is illegal, with or without a foul, your inning ends. Your opponent may re-rack the balls and break or require you to re-rack the balls and break again.
vintagecollectibles831
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You really going to tell the GOAT how to play the game? What he should and should not be doing?
Quick study. He might have a future.
Jump shots are not legal in snooker. It does not matter whether or not it is intentional.
Yes. Unless a player concedes, the frame is still live while there are balls on the table. The only exception to this is if only the black is left and one player is more than 7 points ahead.
While the frame is still 'live' the unsporting conduct rule can be invoked. This allows the ref to award the frame to one of the players, irrespective of the score.
So player A can pocket all the reds with blacks, the colors up to and including the blue (score now 134 - 0), turns to player B and calls him a ****. Ref awards the frame to player B.
But if player A had waited until he had potted the pink (score 140 - 0) before his outburst, he would be ok because the frame is over, and the only penalty for unsporting conduct is loss of frame.
Strangely, under the official rules a player can only be punished for unsporting conduct if it is their second offence; the procedure is that the player has to transgress, be warned by the ref, and then transgress again. Seems to be a bit of an omission.
These are the professional rules. The official amateur rules may be different.
This type of thing (fouls when the frame is well secured) is an accepted part of the entertainment. Players sometimes play a cheeky multi rail kick or bank and have steered the object ball in when it’s not going (foul is always called). I think Mark Williams once distracted the ref and moved a ball out of the way to make a shot (it was very obvious and not trying to deceive anyone). People laugh.
uk_9_ball_convert
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He beat Earl in the 1996 Mosconi. Think that was the first he'd ever played and he was a last minute replacement for Jimmy White so he probably didn't have much practice before the event:
SECTION 4 THE PLAYERS
1. Unsporting Conduct
(a) In the event of
(i) a player using offensive language, or making offensive gestures; or
(ii) any conduct by a player which in the opinion of the referee is wilfully or persistently Unsporting; or
(iii) any other conduct by a player which otherwise amounts to Unsporting Conduct; or
(iv) any player refusing to continue the current frame;
the referee shall Warn the player that in the event of any further Unsporting Conduct the frame will be awarded to their opponent,(b) If the referee has Warned the player under (a) above, in the event of any further Unsporting Conduct, the referee shall award the frame to their opponent, or, if this happens between frames, the referee shall award the next frame to their opponent, and the referee shall Warn the player that in the event of any further Unsporting Conduct the game will be awarded to their opponent.
(c) If a referee has awarded a frame to a player’s opponent, under (b) above or (d) below, in the event of any further Unsporting Conduct by the player concerned, the referee shall award the game to the player’s opponent.
(d) In the event that the conduct, in the opinion of the referee is sufficiently serious, the referee shall award the frame or the game to the player’s opponent, even if previous Warnings for Unsporting Conduct were not issued.
(e) Any decision by the referee to award a frame and/or game to a player’s opponent shall be final and shall not be subject to any appeal.
Well that's a little long windedfor my attention span.
My recollection of BCAPL rules was anything deemed unsportsmanlike fell to the judgment of the referee. The referee could award game or set or even expulsion from event. Some even got never again in a BCAPL event.
Perhaps my memory is getting fuzzy.
Okay the story
I think it was Snoqualmie 9 ball with top competition. I will not name the offender. I will just use the initials, J D. Ooops that's what he went by. Shrug.
So anyways the event allowed the new fangled magic racks of a plastic sheet template with precision holes for a perfect rack every time.
So JD's opponent was crushing the break. At an intermission (toilet break) J D took the scoring pencil and modified his opponents personal magic rack template. In front of a bleachers full gallery.
He got the Never Again from BCAPL. (I think)
I think it was Snoqualmie 9 ball with top competition. I will not name the offender. I will just use the initials, J D. Ooops that's what he went by. Shrug.
So anyways the event allowed the new fangled magic racks of a plastic sheet template with precision holes for a perfect rack every time.
So JD's opponent was crushing the break. At an intermission (toilet break) J D took the scoring pencil and modified his opponents personal magic rack template. In front of a bleachers full gallery.
He got the Never Again from BCAPL. (I think)
Well that's a little long windedfor my attention span.
My recollection of BCAPL rules was anything deemed unsportsmanlike fell to the judgment of the referee. The referee could award game or set or even expulsion from event. Some even got never again in a BCAPL event.
Perhaps my memory is getting fuzzy.
Bob was quoting the snooker rules.