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8 6 3 12 5 7 10 so the cushion is contacted only twice (on the first two shots) and the cue ball movement is minimized.

8 12 5 7 10 6 3 gives a nicer last two, but position on the 12 (to the corner) is a little harder. Again, the cue ball hits no rail except for the 8 and 6.
 
ohok.
i used the 12 as a break ball. its kinda close and high, but i liked the 10,6,3-12.. this is how i ran them.
what do you guys think about a breakball like that?

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terhje said:
ohok.
i used the 12 as a break ball. its kinda close and high, but i liked the 10,6,3-12.. this is how i ran them.
what do you guys think about a breakball like that?

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I like high break balls, I usually get a pretty good spread when I hit the top balls pretty solid. The 3 or 10 are good key balls as long as you can get there without a whole lot of trouble. I liked the way you played it.
 
ok thx. depending on where i hit.. but i like to hit it soft, and play position on the corner ball coming out. beacuse i HATE going 1 rail in the middle pocket!!!:P
 
Okay, my end pattern is 6 3 12 7 1 so my goal is to make the 8, get on the 5 and immediately try to get on the 10. I feel this is the most predictable path to a very good break ball.

The 6 will allow me to get straight on the 3 which will give me a good opportunity to attain a good angle on the 12. If I can accomplish this, I'll have a solid break shot.

I understand there's a reasonable chance I might not get a good angle on the 5 to get on the 10 but I'll have my options to revise if this happens. If on my attempt to get on the 10, I come up short, I should still have a few options but I'm going to try and leave that 7-ball where it is.
 
Bob Jewett said:
8 6 3 12 5 7 10 so the cushion is contacted only twice (on the first two shots) and the cue ball movement is minimized.

8 12 5 7 10 6 3 gives a nicer last two, but position on the 12 (to the corner) is a little harder. Again, the cue ball hits no rail except for the 8 and 6.


I honestly don't like leaving the 5 ball where it is. I think it's important to remove it from the table immediately after the 8 but that's my opinion. There's just nothing nearby that will get you there easily other than your break ball options.
 
Jude Rosenstock said:
I honestly don't like leaving the 5 ball where it is. I think it's important to remove it from the table immediately ...
I also don't like the 5 there and considered 8-6-5 to start as an easy way to get rid of it quickly without much risk. Then I noticed the 3 after the 6 to get easily on the right side of the 12.
 
Bob Jewett said:
I also don't like the 5 there and considered 8-6-5 to start as an easy way to get rid of it quickly without much risk. Then I noticed the 3 after the 6 to get easily on the right side of the 12.


The more and more I look at this rack, the more I see options. I think there are about 4 different ways to go that will yield a very predictable end pattern. All of them, IMO, should lead to the 1-ball as the break shot. BECAUSE (as you state) the 6/3 lay so nicely, the 7-ball isn't an emergency. It's pretty easy to use as a key-ball though perhaps, not ideal.
 
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