Safety Choices

gwvavases

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What kind of safeties do you prefer?

In the tournaments I play in, it seems that most players simply try to snooker their opponents behind an obstructing ball or leave them an impossible shot (which makes them play a safety back atcha). That's a good ploy if, at the same time, the routes to a successful kick on the object ball are blocked. On the other hand, quite often -- usually, even -- the kick is successful.

I really to play safeties in which I leave the other player a tempting shot. Kind of like the shots some players leave themselves when pushing out. I get a bit of a silent chuckle of satisfaction inside when my opponent tries to make the difficult shot on the safety I just played, then leaves me with a good shot after he misses. On the other hand, sometimes he makes it and I'm screwed!

Just wonderin': when facing an unmakeable shot, do you first look to hide the cue ball, or do you try to sucker your opponent into taking an unlikely shot?

Seems to me that the skill level of your opponent comes into play big time when choosing safeties. I've read on this forum and others that it is usually wisest to "play the table" rather than to "play your opponent". I think that advice must pre-date today's BIH rules, coz when it comes to safety play, an opponent's skill level is paramount.

Waddya think?
 
In 9-ball, I like shooting the ball to the other end of the table - off the rail - soft hit, with stop or draw. With obstructing balls in the center of the table, this frequently leaves difficult/impossible shots and is quite easy to leave the cue ball hidden since you know exactly where the cue ball will stop 100% of the time.

In 8-ball playing for fun (non-ball-in-hand), I have a friend who will carom and scratch every time (and giggle) if all my balls are in the kitchen (scratches until he gets a shot).

Also in 8-ball, if all the other persons balls are at the other end of the table, I use the above stop/draw if the cue ball is on my end of the table and I don't have a shot. So then they need to shoot around my balls to get to theirs.
 
gwvavases said:
I really to play safeties in which I leave the other player a tempting shot. Kind of like the shots some players leave themselves when pushing out. I get a bit of a silent chuckle of satisfaction inside when my opponent tries to make the difficult shot on the safety I just played, then leaves me with a good shot after he misses. On the other hand, sometimes he makes it and I'm screwed! Just wonderin': when facing an unmakeable shot, do you first look to hide the cue ball, or do you try to sucker your opponent into taking an unlikely shot?

GW, It's possible that you're having more fun playing pool because you practice this philosophy, but it's really a pretty ridiculous approach. Predicating your playing strategy on the assumption that opponent will play a sucker shot if you leave them one will backfire in the long run. If you play a disciplined player, then when you leave them a tough shot, they will always weigh playing it against any safety that is available. Learn to leave your opponent nothing when you play safe and you'll do best!
 
GW,
SJM is the master, so just do what he says. I will say that I love to play safeties in 9-ball that involve leaving the cue ball on the rail with a long open shot available (a common straight pool ploy). The people I play with will never play a safety back, they always try the shot (which even if they make it will usually leave them with no position). If a real lock-up safety is not available or too tough, think of just leaving them on a rail. Johnny Archer said that he makes those 9 foot slow rollers off the rail 20% of the time - most of my opponents are not quite at his level.
 
i agree with sjm, if you are playing someone good, they will play a better safety back on you if you leave them an open hit on their object ball. The best bet always , is to leave the absolute most difficult shot/hit as possible
 
Thanks for your replies, guys.

I usually do go for the lock-up when playing safe. ALWAYS do against a better player. And you're right...I'm just having fun when I do it. As I think about it more, I think I only try to leave sucker-shot safeties when I'm playing someone I'm pretty sure I'm gonna beat anyway. That's a shortfall of mine: I don't always try my best. Sometimes I'm just tryin to have fun. Then I have a hard time flipping the switch back to my serious game. Better players will always take the opportunity to play a safety. Heck, I do that myself. On a push-out by the other player after a break, I'll almost always take the shot and play a safety rather than give my opponent the opportunity to play a safety on me by giving it back to him.
 
I agree with SJM too: Never test a good player- you'll get burned!!

-pigo
Micktmason said:
i agree with sjm, if you are playing someone good, they will play a better safety back on you if you leave them an open hit on their object ball. The best bet always , is to leave the absolute most difficult shot/hit as possible
 
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