Same Number of Warm Strokes on Every Shot?

Donny

Donny

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Hi Everybody,

Is it correct to take the same number of warm up strokes for every shot or not? Should simple shots be played with the same number of warm up strokes as more difficult shots? If you varied the number of warm up strokes from shot to shot, would this cause inconsistency and throw off your rhythm and shot routine?
 
Donny said:
Hi Everybody,

Is it correct to take the same number of warm up strokes for every shot or not? Should simple shots be played with the same number of warm up strokes as more difficult shots? If you varied the number of warm up strokes from shot to shot, would this cause inconsistency and throw off your rhythm and shot routine?
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Yes you should take the same number no matter what shot.

Yes it will cause inconsistency and throw off your rythm and shot routine.

imo.

BVal
 
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Your over thinking it shoot when you know everything is going to workout. When your ready pull the trigger.
 
The thing to focus on when shooting is breathing: always breathe in when you pull the trigger. Or out. I forget/
 
Warm up strokes...

I always figured those warm up strokes are for fine tuning your aim and then for final feel of the speed of the shot....I would take as many as needed until all looks and feels right for the particular shot at hand. Pull the trigger when you are sure you see the shot and feel the speed....

good luck...

Mr. J.
 
Same number regardless

Same number of practice strokes regardless is very important.I feel the last stroke through links everything from point of impact to cueing through object ball aiming point all combined instantly bringing eveything to a well excuted hit.
 
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Mr. J said:
I always figured those warm up strokes are for fine tuning your aim and then for final feel of the speed of the shot....I would take as many as needed until all looks and feels right for the particular shot at hand. Pull the trigger when you are sure you see the shot and feel the speed....QUOTE]

I agree, some shots require more pratice strokes then others JMO
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Mr. J said:
I always figured those warm up strokes are for fine tuning your aim and then for final feel of the speed of the shot....I would take as many as needed until all looks and feels right for the particular shot at hand. Pull the trigger when you are sure you see the shot and feel the speed....

good luck...

Mr. J.
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When I'm playing that's pretty much now I shoot. When I'm practicing a specific shot, I tend to take the same number of warm up strokes on each shot. The trouble I have is the transition between practice and play, which gives me come inconsistency.
 
Some other tips..

Donny,

I am not sure how long you have played or what your current level of consistency is...???

However I seem to believe you are a somewhat of a new player to the game..so, perhaps if you just make sure and take your time on each shot as you see needed...

With more table time and experience you will develope your preshot routine and overall game...again...do not be in an hurry....

Watch the better players in your area and study their ways overall....

Always watch the better players and do not be afraid to ask them for a tip or two...they will always give you help if they see you are worthy of it...

good luck..

Mr. J.
 
Mr. J said:
I always figured those warm up strokes are for fine tuning your aim and then for final feel of the speed of the shot
Mr. J.
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Actually, the warm-ups are to verify tip contact position. Your eyes need to be focused on the tip and the cue ball when you are warming up, so you really can't be fine tuning your aim at that time. If you need to verify your aim line, stop moving the cue and verify it.

As for the speed of the warm ups, it's rarely the same speed as the final shot. Can you imagine someone doing their warm-ups for their break shot at their break speed? It does allow you to make the muscles more fluid and prepare them for the shot, but you really don't need to practice the speed during your warm-ups.

I practice my speed before I ever get down on the shot.

Steve
 
I play in the APA. I'm a SL6 in 8-ball and a SL7 in 9-ball. It's a very basic question, but I ask because I have a hard time transitioning from practice to play. I'm very analytical in practice and deliberately shoot shots the same way every time, but tend to shoot significant faster and looser when I play. I play poorly when I play with the same tempo than I play with. When I practice fast, I shoot terrible.

This change of tempo seems to cause inconsistency in my game since I'm playing differently than I'm practicing. I have a hard time making the transition and it takes me a few hours of struggling with my stroke every night before I can really find my stroke when I'm playing league or match play.

Mr. J said:
Donny,

I am not sure how long you have played or what your current level of consistency is...???

However I seem to believe you are a somewhat of a new player to the game..so, perhaps if you just make sure and take your time on each shot as you see needed...

With more table time and experience you will develope your preshot routine and overall game...again...do not be in an hurry....

Watch the better players in your area and study their ways overall....

Always watch the better players and do not be afraid to ask them for a tip or two...they will always give you help if they see you are worthy of it...

good luck..

Mr. J.
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I actually do this on my 8 and 9 ball break shots, and I have a pretty strong break. I get great action and almost always make balls on the break. My cue ball control is inconsistent, though.

pooltchr said:
Can you imagine someone doing their warm-ups for their break shot at their break speed? It does allow you to make the muscles more fluid and prepare them for the shot, but you really don't need to practice the speed during your warm-ups.

Steve
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Donny said:
I actually do this on my 8 and 9 ball break shots, and I have a pretty strong break. I get great action and almost always make balls on the break. My cue ball control is inconsistent, though.
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How can you generate the same speed in warm ups that you have on your final break and still stop short of hitting the cb on your warm-ups?

I would bet if you had a speed gun test, you would find that your warm-up speed is considerably less than your final break speed. I don't think you have enough room in a half stroke to get up to speed and then slow down to a stop.

JMHO

Steve
 
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You may be in a hurry to win...???

Donny...

You say you play well during practice with slower more analytical type of shooting process...

Well,,,maybe you are in a hurry get that good shooting out of you and on the table during Play at competition time...You know you can produce good quality pool in your mind and want to get it out there too quickly maybe???

Possibly nerves are coming into play here as well???

Just remember...during Play time...it is still just you and the table and the balls out there ...just like at practice time...

Gotta go now and good luck and remember...Take your time as you see needed and do not be in a hurry to get the win...

Mr. J.
 
pooltchr said:
How can you generate the same speed in warm ups that you have on your final break and still stop short of hitting the cb on your warm-ups?

I would bet if you had a speed gun test, you would find that your warm-up speed is considerably less than your final break speed. I don't think you have enough room in a half stroke to get up to speed and then slow down to a stop.

JMHO

Steve
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The speed is definitely higher. And a longer back swing, just like any other shot that requires more speed. I was referring to the number of warm up strokes. Most people take more warm up strokes on their break than for other shots. I don't like to do that.
 
It's usually not because of nerves. I need a faster tempo to get my rhythm going when I'm playing. I have to shoot slower when I'm practicing and faster when I'm playing. The same tempo just doesn't seem to work well for both.

Mr. J said:
Donny...

You say you play well during practice with slower more analytical type of shooting process...

Well,,,maybe you are in a hurry get that good shooting out of you and on the table during Play at competition time...You know you can produce good quality pool in your mind and want to get it out there too quickly maybe???

Possibly nerves are coming into play here as well???

Just remember...during Play time...it is still just you and the table and the balls out there ...just like at practice time...

Gotta go now and good luck and remember...Take your time as you see needed and do not be in a hurry to get the win...

Mr. J.
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You only count strokes in golf. If your at the table, shoot when you feel certain , what you want to happen, is going to happen.
 
in snooker we call it feathering the ball, by not having a consistent feather ie/ 3 then 4 then 3 then 5 then 6 then3 then 3 etc.. you will have an inconsistent cue action and it will lead to you missing shots.

try to get a set routine when you play as this will make you consistent and a better player as you wont be thinking of pressure and other things its called a dummy, i give players a dummy when i coach them, it makes you concentrate on your feather then pause then hit the ball and nothing else, then next shot and so on.

i have a 1-5 coaching system which will be available and my aiming system when my book is complete.
 
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