Same Old Same Old

Dan White said:
So when Stan uses english on some of those banks is that objective or is he, at least in part, playing by feel?
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I would rate spin as 2 to 3 times easier with CTE.

The spin adjustments are based on objective sight points. The adjustments are very specifically defined. Outside spin is a piece of cake with CTE. Inside spin is visually easier than outside!

I'd rate my spin application understanding as 10 times better than ever when now used with CTE.

Stan Shuffett
 
stan shuffett said:
I would rate spin as 2 to 3 times easier with CTE.

The spin adjustments are based on objective sight points. The adjustments are very specifically defined. Outside spin is a piece of cake with CTE. Inside spin is visually easier than outside in many for many shots.

I'd rate my spin application understanding as 10 times better than ever when now used with CTE.

Stan Shuffett
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Great but isn't the decision of whether you need to use english or not based on your "feel" for the shot (curtain or no curtain)?
 
Dan White said:
Great but isn't the decision of whether you need to use english or not based on your "feel" for the shot (curtain or no curtain)?
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Visually speaking, spin can be very well defined as to what to see visually between the CB and the object ball.

The feel aspects of spin occur more in the physical domain as in extremely slight adjustments of the V for one's bridge placement.

What is Key in CTE is that the eyes drive the visual and the bridge V naturally follows. Yes, bridge V is feel experienced based for spin. But when the eyes drive the shot the slight V movement that can occur with spin is not much of nothing at a proficient level.

Stan Shuffett
 
Dan White said:
So when Stan uses english on some of those banks is that objective or is he, at least in part, playing by feel?
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I would say he aims objectively then executes as he feels.

So do I. Sometimes you add a little juice if you think you need it.

Aiming and execution are separate.
 
Dan White said:
So when Stan uses english on some of those banks is that objective or is he, at least in part, playing by feel?
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Also, doesn't matter.

duplicate the results. Throw the balls out and make the same shots in the same amount of tries with a curtain between you and the rail.

My point all along is if you can't do it then MAYBE CTE is worth investigating as a method.

If you can do it then congratulations, you don't need to change anything.

This is the whole reason we talk about results without caring much about the underlyig reason WHY something works. No one needs the math behind GB to understand the simple concept GB imparts. What one needs is table time to see how WELL they can use the GB system and if that works to guide them to the point that they can make the shots and are happy with their game then great. if not try something else. I see a guy make ten banks in a row with a curtain I go hmmm, I want to try to learn whatever he is teaching.
 
Spin and CTE

The great thing about spin and CTE is that you do the same visual specifics over and over and over......

CTE is visual and spin application is highly visual as well.

CTE allows one to visually learn the game at an extremely high professional level. Once the visual game is in place the physical aspects of playing follow so much more quickly.

CTE is visual. Pool is visual.

Stan Shuffett
 
stan shuffett said:
T-shirt? that could be very possible at some point but only if you will wear it and submit a picture to me for publishing.

Stan Shuffett
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lol

Will you submit a pic of you wearing my design? I have a very nice one in mind.

pj <- don't have enough years left for this negotiation
chgo
 
Patrick Johnson said:
I'm friends and acquaintances with lots of attorneys, few of whom charge as little as $300/hr these days. Fortunately for me, some of them are good enough friends to take a case as easy as this on the come - they'd wait to be paid by Stan. So much for any profits he's made from CTE.

But despite Stan being the one who wants to attack me, I don't wish that on him. Stan, I know you don't trust me, but get some objective advice. The imbeciles goading you on here would be thrilled for you to throw yourself under the bus for a pie-in-the-sky chance at their personal revenge for some past slight. No skin off their noses.

And, by the way, if you think threatening lawsuits will chill discussion about the nonsense descriptions of how CTE works, think again. I'll still offer my opinion, and I'm not the only one. AzB isn't your bought-and-paid-for billboard; it's a discussion forum.

pj
chgo
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Same here.

Lou Figueroa
I am Sparticus!
 
stan shuffett said:
I do not blame you for not wanting to debate me at a table. You are in an extremely weak position by NOT knowing what CTE really is. You'd be sporting a fork very quickly.

Having said all of that, I am officially naming you as CTE MVP. If it were not for you, I do not think I could have had the necessary drive and perseverance to reach the end with CTE.
YOU, PJ, MVP will be quite responsible for my book going to all 50 states and all around the world. THANK YOU! I may not sue you after all. You, SIR!!! are my MVP.......

Stan Shuffett
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lol. Well, there went the law suit.

Lou Figueroa
unbelievable
 
Dan White said:
Don't you think you guys could have saved a lot of bandwidth if you had just said from the beginning something like, "How it works can't be explained. It doesn't make logical sense when you describe it but for some reason when you spend two weeks at the table trying to get it to work all of a sudden it clicks in and thereafter you only have to aim at objective points on the balls."

I'd have been skeptical of that, but I would have accepted it as a reasonable answer and moved on.
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Some people have said that in general speaking. I picked it up from the very first shot that Hal instructed to me on the phone. It worked beautifully, what else did i need to know?
 
JB Cases said:
Stan, it's time we made ACTUAL promotional videos.

These guys keep claiming we are "selling" something so let's actually SELL something.

They won't do anything to stop it. Let's make it all slicker and add in testimonials from CTE users and video clips of them using it at the table. Pros and Amateurs alike.

All this back and forth could be much more productive if we use it to up our game even more.
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I know where you can get some footage of a CTE practitioner and years long ardent advocate of the system.

Lou Figueroa
just tryin' to help
 
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Dan White said:
I have a new theory. JB is suffering from Stockholm Syndrome. He's been using CTE for what, 20 years, saying how great it is, yet by his own admission he is too lazy to do it properly. By now he should be shooting as well as Stan does, but he cannot. Instead of concluding that maybe CTE isn't what he thought it was, he blames himself for being too lazy to use it properly.

Just a thought.
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lol. Stockholm Syndrome.

Lou Figueroa
it would explain
so much
 
JB Cases said:
See, this is where you fail to read.

First of all I have been using aiming systems such as Hal's for 15 years since Hal and I met.

Secondly in that time I have built two businesses and lived in China for 7 years barely playing pool during the last ten.

Thirdly I am fairly lazy but when motivated I will intensely study whatever subject interests me. Thus I can know enough about CTE to see that it works as advertised even if I myself am not the best practitioner of it.

I don't shoot as well as Stan for the single reason that I don't shoot and practice as much as Stan does and has done. It's why I don't shoot as well as a lot of people CTE aside.

And I said I am too lazy to practice CTE to the point where I know FOR SURE what the right key is for every shot. Not that I am too lazy to do it properly. I properly apply CTE all the time but then don't stroke properly. My stroke has fallen into a truly sad state and I see that clearly when I TRY to stroke properly and my aching muscles tell me how out of shape I am.

So save your bullshit. I do just fine with the level I am at and where I am in my life. I don't run around like you trying to tear other people down like you do with Stan and anyone who advocates CTE.

If I thought CTE didn't work or Hal's other methods didn't work I would say it. As I said before I am not indebted to anyone to be their lapdog. Not to Hal, not to Stan or anyone else. If I say something works then it's because I have seen it work myself on the pool table.

It's all about perspective Dan and you have none. Yet.
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If it takes that much time and effort, that even you can't do it, no way the average pool player can successfully deploy it.

Lou Figueroa
 
JB Cases said:
Just because you're broke and can't afford to put your money where your mouth is doesn't mean I won't.

If you can borrow some money I will bet you on whether I can duplicate Stan's videos or not.

Until then, I will PAY YOU $100 if you set up a camera straddling the curtains and duplicate Stan's banking video here. You have 24 hours....go.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uY0tp_UnS_g&index=1&list=PLSKV5CK_fziXmQJCXU3-DBYNTadtjZecS
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They are trick shots.

No different than wing shots or a bunch of other shots most of us can't do or we'd be putting out trick shot DVDs and winning trick shot competitions. Stan has wasted a lot of time learning to do trick shots and all it proves is that he can do a trick shot.

Lou Figueroa
did I mention
they were
TRICK SHOTS
 
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