Samsara cues

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I think I've read somewhere that Samsara cues have very firm hits. Is that correct and if so, why? What sort of joint do they use? Thanks.
 
Fliedout said:
I think I've read somewhere that Samsara cues have very firm hits. Is that correct and if so, why? What sort of joint do they use? Thanks.


Blue Book of pool cues has it listed as: Standard Joint-MP Ivory Substitute;
Joint Screw-Uni-Loc; Joint Type-Piloted Wood-to Wood
Radial Pin Joint is optional as well as a 5/16-18 joint at no charge with new cue
 
The Samsara cue I use to have had a really firm hit. The cue had a Uni-loc wood to wood joint. But, I don't think the joint had so much to do with it. The shafts were really tight grained. Other cues with Uni-Loc joints that I hit with were not as stiff as the Samsara.

On the side note, I think they make the sharpest and flawless points out there. The points fade into the wood and are all equal. Atlas billiard supplies started to sell there forearms ..... I would take as a great compliment.
 
I was up in minot ND this summer (about 45 miles from rugby where Samsara cues are made) personally i have never seen one in person or played with one, but online it looks like they do good work. but alot of the guys up there in ND said that samsara is garbage(all look and no performance) they compared the hit to a viking, they told me not to waste my money, I was going to try to make it to rugby to check out their cues but i didnt get a chance.
 
no way!

cheese86 said:
I was up in minot ND this summer (about 45 miles from rugby where Samsara cues are made) personally i have never seen one in person or played with one, but online it looks like they do good work. but alot of the guys up there in ND said that samsara is garbage(all look and no performance) they compared the hit to a viking, they told me not to waste my money, I was going to try to make it to rugby to check out their cues but i didnt get a chance.

I couldn't disagree more. I love the Sam hit. It is true that much of their work is artistic rather than practical. They have a huge Japanese following and that is what they want. But not all of their cues are like that. There are several low end, simple cues that are outstanding. The older Sam's had a distinct "ping" to them. You can get a dynamite same for $8-1200.

I wouldn't put much stock in what the "locals" have to say. You can NEVER be famous in your own back yard.

If anyone has a Sam they would like to sell, drop me an email. I had to sell all my cues over the past year an I'd love another Sam.

Bob Campbell
 
"alot of the guys up there in ND said that samsara is garbage(all look and no performance) they compared the hit to a viking, they told me not to waste my money"

I owned a Samsara cue and the cue hit IMO alot better than a Viking or McDermott. The reason I sold it was because I was use to a SS joint.

Samsara makes a great cue and was complimented by several elite cue makers (again IMO) including B. Szamboiti and Edwin Reyes. I wish I still had the article or source of where I read Mr. B Szamboiti talking about Samsara.
But even with that said everyone has an opinion. Their cues sell well overseas and that is where mine wound up. Best of luck to the new owner ... I am sure I will miss that cue.
 
Please do not take this wrong as I mean no harm. If Johnny Archer can shoot great with a Scorpion cue and Earl and Allison can shoot great with a Cutec cue... what does this tell you? I dislike both cues after shooting with both! But, if xyz makes such a great cue and I was in the top 1% of players... I would buy this cue in a minute to protect my earnings potential! Please don't get me wrong here. I think any top Pro can shoot with just about anything straight and decent! I will go out on a limb here and even say if Johnny Archer could only play with a Fury cue he would still kick some booty and be the Champion he is!
dooziexx said:
If anyone is interested in Brand New Samsaras, email me at dooziexx@yahoo.com. I have the connections to get them for you at near wholesale prices. :D
-Erik
 
doitforthegame said:
I couldn't disagree more. I love the Sam hit. It is true that much of their work is artistic rather than practical. They have a huge Japanese following and that is what they want. But not all of their cues are like that. There are several low end, simple cues that are outstanding. The older Sam's had a distinct "ping" to them. You can get a dynamite same for $8-1200.

I wouldn't put much stock in what the "locals" have to say. You can NEVER be famous in your own back yard.

If anyone has a Sam they would like to sell, drop me an email. I had to sell all my cues over the past year an I'd love another Sam.

Bob Campbell
E-mail me at Huschi7229@aol.com or call me at my direct line 800-565-9037.
Gerald
 
cut shot said:
Please do not take this wrong as I mean no harm. If Johnny Archer can shoot great with a Scorpion cue and Earl and Allison can shoot great with a Cutec cue... what does this tell you? I dislike both cues after shooting with both! But, if xyz makes such a great cue and I was in the top 1% of players... I would buy this cue in a minute to protect my earnings potential! Please don't get me wrong here. I think any top Pro can shoot with just about anything straight and decent! I will go out on a limb here and even say if Johnny Archer could only play with a Fury cue he would still kick some booty and be the Champion he is!
That might be true. But, I can tell you that keeping a cue straight is a challenge for any cuemaker.
A cue hastily produced with cheap woood will not stay straight.
I highly doubt if Earl and Johnnydo not shoot with custom grade maple shafts.
 
I've never had the chance to use a Samsara cue. From the pictures I've seen of their cues and the reviews/comments I've seen, they do good solid work. They have a very distinctive style and construction technique when it comes to their complex inlay patterns. I've yet to read a comment on how they play though. Maybe that is for a reason. I noticed that usually when I read a comment about a cuemaker's cue, if the cue plays exceptionally well, that would be the biggest compliment. If the cue has exceptional aethestic designs, but not so much a great player, the reviews tend to focus on the aethetics, not on the play. This is just something I've noticed. When someone gives an opinion about Southwest, Coker, Capone, Cognoscenti, Zyler, and other great playing cues, I always see excited complements about the way they play. When I see reviews on cues from cue makers that are known for all-look no-play, I tend not to see any comments on the play.

One other great indicator of how well the cue plays is the resale value of the cue. For example, a SW you just picked up for 1800 can be resold for at least the same amount, if not more. An used Coker/Capone/the likes can be resold at almost the same amount you paid (depending on the specs of the cue). A cue that was picked up brand new for $2000, but can only fetch $800 on Ebay (or any other resale venues) is usually an indicator of the kind play you can expect from the cue. Of course, there are always exceptions.
 
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