Sanding Arbors
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This may help you.
Try John AZer name RocketQ. I bought one set from John was excellent made.
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=171121
Try John AZer name RocketQ. I bought one set from John was excellent made.
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=171121
Did I read that right? $400 for a set?
Carbide drill bushings are used for the sanding mandrells. They are about $35-$40 Each. Machine a piece of Brass (5.00$)to about .003 - .005 over the ID of the drill bushing then freeze it. Insert it in the drill bushing and let it get to room temperature. Drill the desired female thread on one and the male thread on the other. Take it to your local machine shop that can grind carbide to desired OD..(50.00Ea).. Mine cost me about $190 to make..
Not all shops can grind carbide tho..
Just my 2 cents..
good luck
http://www.allamericanproducts.com/bush/pc_10.htm#All*American*Products*Co.
http://www.briannaproducts.com/sandingarbors.htm
Brianna had them for $60 for 3/8-10 at .845
Iam wanting on one of new one not sure when they have some made
!!!!!!! i need one !!!!!!!!
Brianna had them for $60 for 3/8-10 at .845
Iam wanting on one of new one not sure when they have some made
!!!!!!! i need one !!!!!!!!
Yes, I'm aware of the costs involved, although I may have paid a few bucks more for My bushings then You did, not much more though. That depends on which length You used, Mine are slightly longer then 1". I did not mention these things though, because I didn't want to hurt anyone's action. Not saying this was Your intention, I realize You were just trying to help a fellow cuesmith out, and I can appreciate that as much as anyone, but never the less this was "My" reason for not posting the info Publicly.
I have dealt with several distributors over the years, and sharing such knowledge could have resulted in them dropping me as a dealer. Maybe You have dealt with distributors Yourself, and can appreciate what I am saying, so I will post It this way. Even at Your actual costs which would be less then Mine as I mentioned before, The pricing that these arbors are being sold for are still under wholesale pricing, If these were purchased through a actual dealer at retail prices they would cost Much more. I have seen carbide sanding mandrels in the past that were selling for as much as twice or more of the asking Price mentioned here in this thread.
Here's a picture of a couple of bushings as They look before being used in mandrels.
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I wasn't trying to bust anybodies balls about the price of the retail mandrels.
My 1st set was from Rocker..A great set too...At a great price..Some choose to buy them and some may choose to make there own as they do with other cue making fixtures...I dont know what the big secret is anyway. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to look at the pics on the dealers site that sells them to figure out how to do it..It was just a way of saving a fellow cue maker several hundred bucks..I do that every chance i can.. (As most of you well know)
It's all good buddy. I hope you didn't feel I was trying to scald ya. That's not the case at all. I didn't feel You were out to hurt anyone. I know You were only trying to help out. Normally I would be one of the first to offer help Myself, as so many Have me throughout the years. I was just trying to explain why I didn't go into as much detail on this one, and why I thought the price the mandrels were being offered at was a reasonable one. If It weren't for finding alternative ways of saving money, then I would not be able to continue doing this, so Like I mentioned before, I can appreciate that as much as anyone.
Greg
Very nice.
Grinding carbide is expensive. You need diamond wheel grinders,and you need dust extraction if you don't want a lung disease.
I am sure that some who have access to the machinery may be able to grind a few at a favourable price,but you don't get something for nothing. Precision does cost money,as it takes time and skill. A cheap job that is not generally accurate, which means , all your product is not accurate either.
Just because it was made on CNC or that you paid for it, does not mean it was accurate or is correct.
I am sure that some who have access to the machinery may be able to grind a few at a favourable price,but you don't get something for nothing. Precision does cost money,as it takes time and skill. A cheap job that is not generally accurate, which means , all your product is not accurate either.
Just because it was made on CNC or that you paid for it, does not mean it was accurate or is correct.
the OP was looking for steel in the begining anyways and i think when lee had them for sale they were 60 bucks a set.
i have one ive used it once and seems to work well enough, ill be using it alot this weekend tho.
so to answer your question OP check with brianna they say out of stock on the web site, but call them they might have some sitting around.
i have one ive used it once and seems to work well enough, ill be using it alot this weekend tho.
so to answer your question OP check with brianna they say out of stock on the web site, but call them they might have some sitting around.
I dont know if 50 bucks is cheap to grind carbide or not, but, mine are perfect.
I have no complaints..
I have no complaints with the set i purchased from Rocker either. A real value for me when I 1st got started. I would buy from him again if i couldn't do it myself..
I do know that tungsten carbide is pretty expensive. Taking into account the brass, time for assembly, custom machine work and grinding, I can understand the price. Not to mention building these arbors to a .0005 tolerance. I just wonder, and hopefully someone with experience and knowledge can answer, is carbide necessary? Would tool steel not be sufficient?
Carbide is necessary if you want one to last for years. If not a lifetime if you don't hit it with less than 320 grit.
i ws told by a manufacturer of tooling equipment that tool steel would not hold up to the sandpaper..