I like Allen Hopkins. I'm just putting out there opinions from amateurs and pro players that I've talked too and over heard speak about what was going on at the expo. It's not just my opinion I'm just the one putting it out there.
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Here is the stark business reality......when attendance falls off........when the cue-makers & exhibitors dwindle.....SBE will change its fiscal approach........moderate price increases are of course expected and understandable.........push the envelope too far, and you will pay the price with future participation.
It sure sounds like there's some genuine grumblings about this year's SBE and its downward trend in payouts and increased prices.......If it persists, seems like SBE is going to encounter a shrinking population......hope not but something has to change or it's going to encounter problems......JMO.
Matt B.
It sure sounds like there's some genuine grumblings about this year's SBE and its downward trend in payouts and increased prices.......If it persists, seems like SBE is going to encounter a shrinking population......hope not but something has to change or it's going to encounter problems......JMO.
Matt B.
What is wrong with you???!!!!!
This is not the time nor place for a well thought out, logical reply!!!:smile:
Agreed. I can hear crickets...
Here is the stark business reality......when attendance falls off........when the cue-makers & exhibitors dwindle.....SBE will change its fiscal approach........moderate price increases are of course expected and understandable.........push the envelope too far, and you will pay the price with future participation.
It sure sounds like there's some genuine grumblings about this year's SBE and its downward trend in payouts and increased prices.......If it persists, seems like SBE is going to encounter a shrinking population......hope not but something has to change or it's going to encounter problems......JMO.
Matt B.
# IF YOU READ THE PREVIOUS POSTS YOU WOULD HAVE SEEN THAT THEY PAYED OUT MORE AND HAD RECORD ATTENDANCE !!!
It sure sounds like there's some genuine grumblings about this year's SBE and its downward trend in payouts and increased prices.......If it persists, seems like SBE is going to encounter a shrinking population......hope not but something has to change or it's going to encounter problems......JMO.
Matt B.
# IF YOU READ THE PREVIOUS POSTS YOU WOULD HAVE SEEN THAT THEY PAYED OUT MORE AND HAD RECORD ATTENDANCE !!!
This would be the only knock I'd have on the expo this year .
Place was immaculate. The action area was setup really nice with tables side by side, non players tended to be out of the area, and it was carpeted. My feet thank you Allen.
Amateur Open had 993 players....most ever. There's lots of happy customers that will be there every year we are lucky enough to have it.
Kinda dumb. Let's do the math together. When I first went to the Expo the first line of cash was $400. Then $500. Then $550. This year it was $800. So a LOT more prize money is being paid out. The prize money has increased quite a bit. I like that.
As for the pro event complaints, I agree with you there. The format was broken this year. Badly so.
Overall the event was decent. Feedback is very valuable. But try to do a little bit of fact checking before you start throwing stones.
KMRUNOUT
No sure about this, I've been there when I believe the number was like 11something
For years Allen limited the entries to the high 800's due to lack of available space for tables. With the new venue, space is no longer the issue and a full field of 1024 is possible. Sixteen brackets of 64 each. If you count all the unique entries, my guess is there were nearly 1500 players for all amateur events. Wow!
Lyn
Shane Winters just won the Big Tyme event where he double dipped Orcullo to win it. Without even taking into account all the other big pro level bar table events he has won, placed top five, the Big Tyme event alone should disqualify him.
It totally looks like the SBE folks were asleep at the wheel to allow him to win the Amateur Open. The thing I read that is almost as unsettling as them allowing him into that event is some of the pros saying stuff on fb like "not his fault if they allowed him to play". Gotta take advantage if you can is the mindset.
I totally agree with all other things said about great payouts, a great event and I hope the event thrives and continues.
It totally looks like the SBE folks were asleep at the wheel to allow him to win the Amateur Open. The thing I read that is almost as unsettling as them allowing him into that event is some of the pros saying stuff on fb like "not his fault if they allowed him to play". Gotta take advantage if you can is the mindset.
I totally agree with all other things said about great payouts, a great event and I hope the event thrives and continues.
Dave,
One of these years we have to meet at SBE. I'm really old and can't see so I'll need weight
. Shane grew up here in Rochester. Remember watching him grow both as a pool player and a person. Have to agree he's as much a professional player as SVB. Still the entries don't drop so players still want to take their chances. I'd love to play Shane at SBE. I will never get a chance to play him for only $100 a set anywhere else!!!
Lyn
There seems to be a lot of complaints, and on the other hand, a lot of people who were happy to be there. As always, there are some who would be complaining no matter what, and some who are happy with it no matter what. I say all that to say this-the worst advice we could give anybody is to vote with their wallet and stay home. I would guess Mr. Hopkins really wants to put on the best show he possibly can so that people will return next year. Mistakes are going to be made, but I'd bet if aired the right way, they get addressed. As for me, I say thank you to those working and running the event, and anyone else willing to put in the time and effort to have events like this. I hope they made a lot of money, and I hope I can afford to go to this event next year.
As of THIS post, you are entitled to your opinion and allowed to speak it!
No matter how much of the facts you DONT know,,, you are entitled to it!
What I like about these posts like yours is that it shows me the true nature of people!
People like you and most pool players are about one thing,,,,,,, ME,ME,ME,ME,ME,ME,ME,ME!!
There are people out there that love pool and want to be around a weekend of nothing but pool! This is a fact that I'm sure you will agree with. Before you open the hole under your nose and let $hit from inside your furry little brain out,,,, find out how much it costs to run these events! After you find out,,,, let us know! Till then,,,,, be well
How about a pros/cons thread about the sbe?
Everyone is entitled to their opinion but if a bunch of people who go to the expo year after year have the same gripe maybe this will open some eyes and possibly lead to changes for the good of everyone.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion but if a bunch of people who go to the expo year after year have the same gripe maybe this will open some eyes and possibly lead to changes for the good of everyone.
I think they should charge more for the tournament entry, and more for the general entry into the event.
Maybe this would drive away all of the crying broke people that can't really afford the event even if it was free.