Schon hit

cologuy

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I am pretty much a cue novice. I am playing now with an entry level type Meucci that was given to me. I am looking to move up a bit and a friend has a Schon STL8 that he is willing to sell me for what I consider a good price. As we live over 100 miles apart, I have not had a chance to try the cue yet. I will definitely do that prior to buying. My question - how does the Schon hit compare to Meucci as far as stiffness? Is this something that can be answered generally, or does it depend on the 2 individual cues? I sort of like the Meucci hit. Would I be better advised to just move up to a nicer Meucci? I apologize for my lack of knowledge - but you gotta start somewhere. Thanks.
 
cologuy said:
I am pretty much a cue novice. I am playing now with an entry level type Meucci that was given to me. I am looking to move up a bit and a friend has a Schon STL8 that he is willing to sell me for what I consider a good price. As we live over 100 miles apart, I have not had a chance to try the cue yet. I will definitely do that prior to buying. My question - how does the Schon hit compare to Meucci as far as stiffness? Is this something that can be answered generally, or does it depend on the 2 individual cues? I sort of like the Meucci hit. Would I be better advised to just move up to a nicer Meucci? I apologize for my lack of knowledge - but you gotta start somewhere. Thanks.

Schon, in my opinion, makes the best playing production cue on the market. Much stiffer hit than Meucci but great feedback.
Just out of curiousity, how much is he selling the cue to you for?

Koop
 
I would reccomend buying it. You can always re-sell it. I think you'll like the way it plays though.
 
Koop said:
Schon, in my opinion, makes the best playing production cue on the market. Much stiffer hit than Meucci but great feedback.
Just out of curiousity, how much is he selling the cue to you for?

Koop
$525 or $550 with a 2x4 case. Not sure what type case it is. The cue only a year old with very little use. I think he is now using a Bender cue.
 
cologuy said:
$525 or $550 with a 2x4 case. Not sure what type case it is. The cue only a year old with very little use. I think he is now using a Bender cue.

If it is the right weight and feel for you I would grab it. That is a very decent price and like Hal said, you can pretty much assured that you will get most of your money back if you ever decide to sell.

Good luck,
Koop
 
cologuy said:
$525 or $550 with a 2x4 case. Not sure what type case it is. The cue only a year old with very little use. I think he is now using a Bender cue.
That's an average price. Erik Lee could possibly beat that. He has a brand new STL 9 for 570.00 erikleecues.com
 
cologuy said:
I am pretty much a cue novice. I am playing now with an entry level type Meucci that was given to me. I am looking to move up a bit and a friend has a Schon STL8 that he is willing to sell me for what I consider a good price. As we live over 100 miles apart, I have not had a chance to try the cue yet. I will definitely do that prior to buying. My question - how does the Schon hit compare to Meucci as far as stiffness? Is this something that can be answered generally, or does it depend on the 2 individual cues? I sort of like the Meucci hit. Would I be better advised to just move up to a nicer Meucci? I apologize for my lack of knowledge - but you gotta start somewhere. Thanks.

Like the other fellas said, it's a stiff hit. Whereas I think a Meucci is more whippy. I have seen Schons hit differently. In my opinion, they hit good. Some Schons hit better than other Schons.
 
Schon's do play stiffer than Meucci's...but you will find overall the Schon will give you better cueball control and a better feel if you give yourself time to get used to them. Like everyone said, you can ALWAYS get your money back out of a Schon unless you beat it up pretty bad.

Shorty
 
New Schons Available

Hal said:
That's an average price. Erik Lee could possibly beat that. He has a brand new STL 9 for 570.00 erikleecues.com

I've also got a few brand new Schon cues as well. I have an STL 6 for $475 or an STL 10 for $625. :cool:

Duane
 
I picked up an LTD 315 back in March for $500 and have won over $300 with it in tournament play so it is paying for itself. The same cue sold on Ebay for $470 plus shipping.

Putting a 314 on it would be a crime and a waste of money. FYI.
 
Ive always wondered about schons myself. They seem like very nice cues but I cant bring myself to pay that much money for a high end production cue when I can get a pretty decent custom cue made to my specs. I will always go for a low to mid range custom over a high end production cue. There are some pretty nice production cues that have a lot of nice woods and materials but I for some reason cant bring myself to pay 500+ for a production cue knowing full well that there is some cuemaker out there that would make me a cue to my specs for the same amount. I wouldnt mind picking one up for a good price just to try one out but I wouldnt ever shell out that much money. Just my .02
 
NOSAJ03 said:
Ive always wondered about schons myself. They seem like very nice cues but I cant bring myself to pay that much money for a high end production cue when I can get a pretty decent custom cue made to my specs. I will always go for a low to mid range custom over a high end production cue. There are some pretty nice production cues that have a lot of nice woods and materials but I for some reason cant bring myself to pay 500+ for a production cue knowing full well that there is some cuemaker out there that would make me a cue to my specs for the same amount.


Well good for you. I'm sure there are a few cuemakers out there that wish there were 20 million more with the same philosophy as you.

Unfortunately there aren't that many, and MOST of the the so called custom cues aren't even close to the quality and playability of a Schon.
 
Switch to the schoen and you will feel a world of difference in the hit. It will be odd for a while, but I believe its a better cue
 
drivermaker said:
Well good for you. I'm sure there are a few cuemakers out there that wish there were 20 million more with the same philosophy as you.

Unfortunately there aren't that many, and MOST of the the so called custom cues aren't even close to the quality and playability of a Schon.
Thats absolutely true, I cant dispute that but then again Ive never played with a Schon. They are supposedly very good, high quality cues but you can also argue that Schons dont come close to the quality and playability of most custom cues. Its all subjective or really more importantly its just my opinion.
 
a lil'secret i got from the phillipens.

cologuy said:
I am pretty much a cue novice. I am playing now with an entry level type Meucci that was given to me. I am looking to move up a bit and a friend has a Schon STL8 that he is willing to sell me for what I consider a good price. As we live over 100 miles apart, I have not had a chance to try the cue yet. I will definitely do that prior to buying. My question - how does the Schon hit compare to Meucci as far as stiffness? Is this something that can be answered generally, or does it depend on the 2 individual cues? I sort of like the Meucci hit. Would I be better advised to just move up to a nicer Meucci? I apologize for my lack of knowledge - but you gotta start somewhere. Thanks.

schon cue w/predator shaft truely a secret weapon.
 
Comes down to detail

Schon makes a very decent production cue. If/When you get your hands on the cue in question, check it's balance point. If you don't know how to do that, here's how you do it:

Put the your index finger out (your "Index" finger is the one you use to point with), lay the cue across your index finger perpendicular to your finger. Balance it. If it's vertex is in the upper most point of the wrap (which shows a more forward center of gravity, which is what you want).

Get the cue. That line of Schon puts the CG (center of gravity) towards the shaft in most of the cues. Just verify.

If you want to get better, you'll want a cue that has a more forward CG, just like an arrow, or when flying a plane (I'm a pilot, I know about these things). Think about it for a second. Put a fletch heavy arrow in a bow, and what does it want to do when it's released?

Same thing applies to a cue. Period.
 
NOSAJ03 said:
Ive always wondered about schons myself. They seem like very nice cues but I cant bring myself to pay that much money for a high end production cue when I can get a pretty decent custom cue made to my specs. I will always go for a low to mid range custom over a high end production cue. There are some pretty nice production cues that have a lot of nice woods and materials but I for some reason cant bring myself to pay 500+ for a production cue knowing full well that there is some cuemaker out there that would make me a cue to my specs for the same amount. I wouldnt mind picking one up for a good price just to try one out but I wouldnt ever shell out that much money. Just my .02

My only comment is that this guy is just starting out and doesn't know what his specs are yet. A schon and a meucci are far enough apart in the way they hit that he should get an idea what he likes, and like everybody is saying he can get his money back from the schon if he decides to sell it.

Nothing against custom cues but how is a new player going to know what to order?
 
Ronoh said:
Schon makes a very decent production cue. If/When you get your hands on the cue in question, check it's balance point. If you don't know how to do that, here's how you do it:

Put the your index finger out (your "Index" finger is the one you use to point with), lay the cue across your index finger perpendicular to your finger. Balance it. If it's vertex is in the upper most point of the wrap (which shows a more forward center of gravity, which is what you want).

Get the cue. That line of Schon puts the CG (center of gravity) towards the shaft in most of the cues. Just verify.

If you want to get better, you'll want a cue that has a more forward CG, just like an arrow, or when flying a plane (I'm a pilot, I know about these things). Think about it for a second. Put a fletch heavy arrow in a bow, and what does it want to do when it's released?

Same thing applies to a cue. Period.

Interesting way to put it...and I agree with your description.

However...some things I have noticed about forward weight and stiff shaft.....I think you tend to get less spin with a stiff shaft and forward weight. I can't explain it, it just feels that way to me for most Schons vs Meucci....(that I have ever hit)...I am not saying you can't spin/draw the ball, I am just saying it takes a little more work to do it...

Absolutly nothing wrong with a Schon cue...but bring on the Jacoby......It has the forward weight / stiff hit, but the combination that they have with the shaft taper they use, I get way more effortless spin with the one I have played with....And, as I see it I am bound to have all the luck in the world when it comes in, cause DCP got the Jacoby that sucked up all the bad luck in the shop...There is nothing but good luck left...... :D
 
Schon's hit is fantastic. Also they have great balance, feel, and detail. I got a STL-3 last month and I'm not disappointed...but today I started using a McD I-2 shaft with it and I'm liking that combination a bit better than the original shaft because there is less adjustment on shots with english. To my (pleasant) surprise, the hit still feels very solid with the new shaft.

Ed
 
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