Scott Erwin Cues and a cue repair

Very true Bill but I am not very optimistic. It is very visible.

Scott is capable of doing incredible refinish & restoration work; I know first hand.

He learned how to do right from his father, and not just with cues but with customers, as well. He had a great teacher.

This makes all of this that much more distressing.

Scott, if you're reading here on az, turn things around and get back to doing things the way that would make your father proud.

best,
brian kc
 
I have received my cue back from Scott Erwin. The job was quite sloppy and incomplete. After consulting with Ryan Theewen about it, I have decided to send it to him to undo Scott's work he did.

There is a ridge under the trim ring that can be felt and visually see. Also bubbles in the finish on the trim ring. I have asked Scott for a full refund but to no avail that hasn't happened.

Here's a pre shipping pic of the work he sent back to me. The pics are not an illusion, the maple dips in before the trim ring. I am not sure how anybody could be happy about this if they received it back this way.
 
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Was this an Erwin cue, just wondering y you sent it to him in the first place.

No it isn't, i had been reading a lot about him and all the good work, and satisfied customers on a different billiard site. Anything from now on goes to Ryan Theewen, I should have known better.

He won't be getting anymore of my business, ever.
 
Mine was a Terry Roach....amazing cue, too. Again, Scott did a good job, but took waaay too long and was difficult to reach sometimes. Terry recommended Scott.
 
Scott Erwin has sent me a full refund. I have sent my cue to Ryan Theewen and he will take care of this for me. I appreciate all people who got involved and helped me out, thanks.
 
Simple suggestions,

1; Never pay up front.

2; Never pay up front for work not done.

3; Never pay up front, (some things just can't be said enough.)

In my past life, I built custom homes for people. I have built entire homes for people on my dime, never accepted their money until the job was all done. They knew that if they backed out, I would sell it for a little more. I never lost a single deal in 20 years. Same with cues, back out and I will sell it for more, have not lost one yet. WHY, in this case, would you send someone something of value AND money at the same time? Beyond me, sorry.


Life is too short for these things, glad to see the OP got his money back.

FACE THE FACTS PEOPLE, the majority of problems on the internet are caused when people pay up front AND/OR they are lied to.
 
I spoke with Scott yesterday as I'm very concerned about this issue. Scott is capable of doing great work and in my experience he has always delivered that. IMHO he doesn’t charge enough and that brings him quantity rather than quality.

A lot of guys on here know Scott's story and know his father Mike that unfortunately passed away a few years ago. I think everyone including myself wants Scott to be successful and carry that family torch in the custom cue business and I think he will.

Scott has probably worked on loads of cues and had a great reputation. Unfortunately a few bad marks and it can all go by the wayside. Example, lets just say for a round number he's worked on 1,000 cues and has had 5 bad experiences. That's a 99.5% satisfaction rate with only .5% not happy. Just saying, that's not bad. I have no clue what those numbers realistically are but they are pretty damn good. No one wants a single bad experience but they're bound to happen unfortunately. Some people just can't be pleased. 9 of 10 people that had a great experience tell one person maybe, a person that had a bad experience will tell 1,000 and that is just how it is unfortunately.

After speaking with Scott briefly and as I thought before he's having some growing pains which sucks, not only for him, but for you as a customer as well. However, I can definitely say that most small businesses go through this in some way or another. It doesn't make it okay but try to be understanding, shit does happen. I understand Scott refunded you due to the issue. Did you get a refund?

So many issues come from lack of or poor communication. I know this very well being i own a small business, order customs often, deal customs and not to mention I have a career job, wife, 2.5 year old and 4 month old girls, I'm busy and there just aren't enough hours in a day and times that I can be on the phone are not enough… I usually go to sleep around 1:00am just to catch up and wake up at 6:00am. However, it is also not a cuemakers MAIN priority to sit on AZ, FB, text phone and take calls and email all day but it is part of the job. They want to be doing what they do best as priority, which is turning wood and building/refinishing cues.

My advice would be to pay half down and half at finish going forward as it keeps everyone motivated. The message above mine is very good advice as well...

My advice to Scott was/is to set the proper expectations, under promise and over deliver and try and set aside a little time to communicate with customers on a set time each or every other day or something of that nature and just be proactive. I personally think he does a great job and everything I have ever sent him went very well and so did the jobs I referred people to send to him.

I know that I will continue to use Scott for most of my refinish jobs…
 
I spoke with Scott yesterday as I'm very concerned about this issue. Scott is capable of doing great work and in my experience he has always delivered that. IMHO he doesn’t charge enough and that brings him quantity rather than quality.

A lot of guys on here know Scott's story and know his father Mike that unfortunately passed away a few years ago. I think everyone including myself wants Scott to be successful and carry that family torch in the custom cue business and I think he will.

Scott has probably worked on loads of cues and had a great reputation. Unfortunately a few bad marks and it can all go by the wayside. Example, lets just say for a round number he's worked on 1,000 cues and has had 5 bad experiences. That's a 99.5% satisfaction rate with only .5% not happy. Just saying, that's not bad. I have no clue what those numbers realistically are but they are pretty damn good. No one wants a single bad experience but they're bound to happen unfortunately. Some people just can't be pleased. 9 of 10 people that had a great experience tell one person maybe, a person that had a bad experience will tell 1,000 and that is just how it is unfortunately.

After speaking with Scott briefly and as I thought before he's having some growing pains which sucks, not only for him, but for you as a customer as well. However, I can definitely say that most small businesses go through this in some way or another. It doesn't make it okay but try to be understanding, shit does happen. I understand Scott refunded you due to the issue. Did you get a refund?

So many issues come from lack of or poor communication. I know this very well being i own a small business, order customs often, deal customs and not to mention I have a career job, wife, 2.5 year old and 4 month old girls, I'm busy and there just aren't enough hours in a day and times that I can be on the phone are not enough… I usually go to sleep around 1:00am just to catch up and wake up at 6:00am. However, it is also not a cuemakers MAIN priority to sit on AZ, FB, text phone and take calls and email all day but it is part of the job. They want to be doing what they do best as priority, which is turning wood and building/refinishing cues.

My advice would be to pay half down and half at finish going forward as it keeps everyone motivated. The message above mine is very good advice as well...

My advice to Scott was/is to set the proper expectations, under promise and over deliver and try and set aside a little time to communicate with customers on a set time each or every other day or something of that nature and just be proactive. I personally think he does a great job and everything I have ever sent him went very well and so did the jobs I referred people to send to him.

I know that I will continue to use Scott for most of my refinish jobs…

Yes I got a refund Bill. I didn't pay upfront any money. Scott gave me a day it was to be completed by, facebooked me and told me next week and I paid on that exact day. Just like a good customer does. Then it went on for a month.

I believe Scott does great work, I have seen pics of if. I am not disputing that. I wish Scott all the best and hope he continues to be busy. Scott don't need any work from me anymore, he has proven to me all I need to know.

Bottom line tho Bill, Scott f'd my cue up and now I have to send it away to somewhere else to repair it. Not only did he not respond to me when confronting him about it before he sent it, he actually sent it back f'd up.

That's the issue.
 
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Much shorter then the two years I waited, after making my second half payment, when he said it was going to be done, then he screwed the joint up, then said he make another, never got it, had to settle for a cue he had made that he couldnt sell, after making a thread on here. Was just glad a got anything. He lost my business after buying four cues from Mike.
 
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