He probably stole it from some old Nas lyrics in regard to rapper jay-z; or else he just came up with it again on his own.smokeandapancak said:
Scotty Townsend Rumor
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either way .. its just when I read it I hear it in Ricky Bobby's voice..
hahaha, yeah. To be honest I kinda liked playboy at first when he was telling stories about Jack Hines and stuff, bummer.
how much was damaged?
I didn't say that people were necessarily killed, I said things break. Water isn't sufficiently plastic to give much when hit above certain speeds. The best divers in the world making dives correctly have found that they sustain significant damage at less than 150 feet. I'm not sure what the record is now but the records I have seen set used bubble machines. Miss the bubbles and expect serious injury. Flukes can happen and people have fell ten thousand feet and lived. They didn't jump up and bet they could do it again from higher though!
Either the story is BS or the height has increased with the telling much like the size of the fish or the length of the shot!
Hu
jay helfert said:
I didn't say that people were necessarily killed, I said things break. Water isn't sufficiently plastic to give much when hit above certain speeds. The best divers in the world making dives correctly have found that they sustain significant damage at less than 150 feet. I'm not sure what the record is now but the records I have seen set used bubble machines. Miss the bubbles and expect serious injury. Flukes can happen and people have fell ten thousand feet and lived. They didn't jump up and bet they could do it again from higher though!
Either the story is BS or the height has increased with the telling much like the size of the fish or the length of the shot!
Hu
sounds like things broke to me!
Sounds like things broke to me. However, I am a sporting guy. Ask your friend if he wants to try the jump from a range finder verified 150 feet and the bet is a thousand that he requires medical treatment afterwards. (edited to correct and add "Medical treatment if he lives". Dead people don't need medical treatment!)
Hu
Ktown D said:
Sounds like things broke to me. However, I am a sporting guy. Ask your friend if he wants to try the jump from a range finder verified 150 feet and the bet is a thousand that he requires medical treatment afterwards. (edited to correct and add "Medical treatment if he lives". Dead people don't need medical treatment!)
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I know the newspaper claimed the height to be 150 feet when they were covering the story of the girl that was pushed off and killed there.ShootingArts said:
She went to high school w/ my buddies and I was one county over. Boyfriend got pissed at her and that was that. He is still in jail.
I understand your statements to be rule and not the exception but the way you worded it made it out to be a fact that they couldn't. You are correct he didn't want to go give it another shot from that height. The popular jumping spot at that quarry is about 70-80 ft high and that is plenty high for me. He always like to show everyone how crazy he was so he went to the highest spot to prove he would. It wasn't his best decision. Luckily he gets to talk about it instead of the alternative.
Ktown D said:I know the newspaper claimed the height to be 150 feet when they were covering the story of the girl that was pushed off and killed there.
She went to high school w/ my buddies and I was one county over. Boyfriend got pissed at her and that was that. He is still in jail.
I understand your statements to be rule and not the exception but the way you worded it made it out to be a fact that they couldn't. You are correct he didn't want to go give it another shot from that height. The popular jumping spot at that quarry is about 70-80 ft high and that is plenty high for me. He always like to show everyone how crazy he was so he went to the highest spot to prove he would. It wasn't his best decision. Luckily he gets to talk about it instead of the alternative.
Newspapers are quick to accept statements that they want to use as gospel. Rangefinders are very common now. Measure the heights for yourself. Odds are that you will find that the 150 feet is greatly exaggerated as is the 70 or 80 feet. There are a lot of injuries from jumping even 70-80 feet and it isn't none too popular!
I climbed iron for a living for years. Having a set of blueprints in my possession as the person running the job I made a game of asking people how high up they were for years. They routinely guessed and were quite certain that they were two to four times as high as they actually were. Some even denied the prints and I had to make them measure one and then count twenty foot joints of steel to convince them.
Hu
does sound like a fun guy
Scotty does sound like a fun guy regardless. I had an old running buddy like that. Bobby could get into more things just walking to the road to check his mail than most of us could hunt up in a month of Sundays!
Hu
pineknot said:
Scotty does sound like a fun guy regardless. I had an old running buddy like that. Bobby could get into more things just walking to the road to check his mail than most of us could hunt up in a month of Sundays!
Hu
its good to here these stories of players.JAY you gotta get on that book and start telling us some player stories
In due respect to players,there should be a seperate permanent thread about player stories,road stories,stuff like that.
In due respect to players,there should be a seperate permanent thread about player stories,road stories,stuff like that.
not quite true either
The world high diving federation considers a 177ft dive made in the mid-eighties from a cliff to be the world record for men with the woman's record being only in the 120's. There is no mention of the damage, if any, sustained in the dive.
Due to the simple physics of acceleration in a fall, 177 feet is a long ways short of 200 feet in terms of impact. If Scotty routinely jumps from 150-200 feet he can make far more money doing that than he can shooting pool. Move over Evel!
Four men were supposed to set a high dive record years ago. The height was only in the 120's if I remember correctly. One man ran the numbers for himself and proclaimed the dive impossible to do without injury. The other three did dive and all sustained substantial injury. A year or two later the bubble machine was introduced and four divers set the new world record, at around 140 feet if I remember correctly, and none were injured. The man that refused to make the lower dive without a machine did make this one without injury.
Note that the record high dive was from a cliff. Wave action is usually critical to these dives and again, although naturally this time, bubbles are created. I didn't really intend to make a big issue out of my comment but I'll stand behind it. The simple fact is that physics are on my side. Pool players often think that they can defy the laws of physics but I have never seen it actually done successfully.
Hu
The world high diving federation considers a 177ft dive made in the mid-eighties from a cliff to be the world record for men with the woman's record being only in the 120's. There is no mention of the damage, if any, sustained in the dive.
Due to the simple physics of acceleration in a fall, 177 feet is a long ways short of 200 feet in terms of impact. If Scotty routinely jumps from 150-200 feet he can make far more money doing that than he can shooting pool. Move over Evel!
Four men were supposed to set a high dive record years ago. The height was only in the 120's if I remember correctly. One man ran the numbers for himself and proclaimed the dive impossible to do without injury. The other three did dive and all sustained substantial injury. A year or two later the bubble machine was introduced and four divers set the new world record, at around 140 feet if I remember correctly, and none were injured. The man that refused to make the lower dive without a machine did make this one without injury.
Note that the record high dive was from a cliff. Wave action is usually critical to these dives and again, although naturally this time, bubbles are created. I didn't really intend to make a big issue out of my comment but I'll stand behind it. The simple fact is that physics are on my side. Pool players often think that they can defy the laws of physics but I have never seen it actually done successfully.
Hu
John Barton said:That's not quite true either. I was professional high diver at one point in my life and when I was diving the world record was around 200ft without any special equipment.
In the shows I did we dove from 100ft. That's plenty high enoughEspecially when the pool is only 18ft across and 9ft deep.
David Grossman might remember the time I met him in St. Augustine the summer I spent up there at Marineland. I lost to him playing one handed to my two in one pocket. Of course back then I was 18 and couldn't spell one pocket. Hell I can only spell "one" now.
David declined to give me that same spot two years ago at Derby.
Here's a newbie's perspective:
I only saw Russ's edited post. I've never seen the "edit" function until joining AZB so I'm not too familiar with it. Is it possible or likely that Playboy saw the original, harsher post? If so, it's reasonable that a "non-troll" might get angry. The ensuing barrage pretty much removed any doubt about whether he was a troll!
I thought Russ's edited post was polite, but I did percieve it as a bit preachy and possibly unecessary. I noted it as such and moved on. It did not inspire me to consider a murderous rampage or any sort of violence at all, but hey, that's just me.
Playboy's reaction was completely insane. He showed his true colors as a troll or crackpot or both with his first response and the "violence" that escalated from there.
Anyway, I liked what Jay said that "he's his own worst enemy". I'll go a step further and say this:
Being him is it's own punishment.
His kind of behaviour shielded by the anonymity of the internet is just plain cowardly. If he acts that way in the real world, he's a lonely person, albeit a black and blue one.
Peace,
Tom
I only saw Russ's edited post. I've never seen the "edit" function until joining AZB so I'm not too familiar with it. Is it possible or likely that Playboy saw the original, harsher post? If so, it's reasonable that a "non-troll" might get angry. The ensuing barrage pretty much removed any doubt about whether he was a troll!
I thought Russ's edited post was polite, but I did percieve it as a bit preachy and possibly unecessary. I noted it as such and moved on. It did not inspire me to consider a murderous rampage or any sort of violence at all, but hey, that's just me.
Playboy's reaction was completely insane. He showed his true colors as a troll or crackpot or both with his first response and the "violence" that escalated from there.
Anyway, I liked what Jay said that "he's his own worst enemy". I'll go a step further and say this:
Being him is it's own punishment.
His kind of behaviour shielded by the anonymity of the internet is just plain cowardly. If he acts that way in the real world, he's a lonely person, albeit a black and blue one.
Peace,
Tom
Aerator
Basically a big aerator. Probably just a large air compressor and something that covers a fairly large area of the bottom under the water with a lot of holes in it. However they do this, it sends up a continuous flow of bubbles just like the stones used in many home aquariums. Because the water is actually a substantial percentage air where the bubbles are coming up the impact is much less than hitting pure water. This is a fairly large area, maybe 12'x12' or bigger but it is still a pretty tiny target to hit when diving from the heights they do.
This let the divers add twenty feet or more to the height they could dive from as I recall. However it was like diving into a tiny pool, missing that area of bubbles was extremely dangerous. Using bubble machines makes the dive technically possible to do without injury however the attempts still carry a lot of risk.
Hu
Barbara said:
Basically a big aerator. Probably just a large air compressor and something that covers a fairly large area of the bottom under the water with a lot of holes in it. However they do this, it sends up a continuous flow of bubbles just like the stones used in many home aquariums. Because the water is actually a substantial percentage air where the bubbles are coming up the impact is much less than hitting pure water. This is a fairly large area, maybe 12'x12' or bigger but it is still a pretty tiny target to hit when diving from the heights they do.
This let the divers add twenty feet or more to the height they could dive from as I recall. However it was like diving into a tiny pool, missing that area of bubbles was extremely dangerous. Using bubble machines makes the dive technically possible to do without injury however the attempts still carry a lot of risk.
Hu
This thread really did become interesting! From what's been said here about Scotty T there really should be a movie made about the guy!! Some of the things he's done sound very similar to an old friend of mine (sadly departed now), he was always one to take the challenge if it was bizarre enough!
Wellllllllll . . .
You have a good point there. Everybody knows that blue jeans are almost bullet proof and definitely absorb a lot of road rash in bike crashes. Maybe if he is wearing full blue jeans and not cutoffs it becomes feasible. With some pointy-toed roach stomper cowboy boots to create the proper aspect angle and cut the water properly on entry it just might be possible. I think the shiny toe caps would be a must though. If he was wearing a cowboy hat for flight control and to slow his fall I think it would be a done deal but I can't believe anyone would risk losing a cowboy hat jumping into the Mississippi.
We need an experienced diver to put on some boots and jeans to do some scientific testing!
Hu
sixpack said:Yes, but how many of them performed the dives with cowboy boots and blue jeans on? If the conditions are not similar, the conclusions might be incorrect
Cheers,
RC
You have a good point there. Everybody knows that blue jeans are almost bullet proof and definitely absorb a lot of road rash in bike crashes. Maybe if he is wearing full blue jeans and not cutoffs it becomes feasible. With some pointy-toed roach stomper cowboy boots to create the proper aspect angle and cut the water properly on entry it just might be possible. I think the shiny toe caps would be a must though. If he was wearing a cowboy hat for flight control and to slow his fall I think it would be a done deal but I can't believe anyone would risk losing a cowboy hat jumping into the Mississippi.
We need an experienced diver to put on some boots and jeans to do some scientific testing!
Hu
Notwithstanding the OP's loss of all self control in this thread, Russ' original post was quite fascist (the edited post included). Either A.) he really believes the stuff he is shoveling, or B.) he is bored enough in life that this internet message board is the real world???
For the Mod's with ownership, assuming this is a business, with advertisers, why would you guys allow members to run off new posters like that (i think it is safe to say if post #2 in this thread never occured, the OP would still be around)....anyway....bad business and bad attitude (Russ).
For the Mod's with ownership, assuming this is a business, with advertisers, why would you guys allow members to run off new posters like that (i think it is safe to say if post #2 in this thread never occured, the OP would still be around)....anyway....bad business and bad attitude (Russ).