Scotty Townsend's Proposition Shot

Andrew Manning said:
I like this quote. I've seen it on here before in threads related to prop shots. What's "The Idyll of Miss Sarah Brown"? Is it a novel? Worth reading? Pool-related?

-Andrew
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It is the short story by Damon Runyon on which Guys And Dolls was based.

Incidentally, the character Sky Masterson was modeled after Alvin Clarence Thomas, better known as Titanic Thompson, one of the greatest proposition betters ever.

Good Rolls,
Rasta
 
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ShootingArts said:
If a man wants to bet you that he can do something, no matter how outrageous it sounds, walk away from it. When the money gets right they will do it.

I see I need to edit this. I was making a general comment about proposition shots. Nothing outrageous about Bob kicking the ball in. Matter of fact I'd have to try it if someone gave me thirty tries on a typical Diamond.

Hu
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It was a long time ago, but I lost 50$ to an impossible kick shot. I looked at it from top and bottom, and there was no way in hell he could kick that ball, so i took his bet and watch in amazment as he kicked the ***** in. The only thing that really made me mad is that he kicked it in with his SHOE!! but he did say that he could kick it in. Live and learn dude! I did.
 
poolcuemaster said:
I haven't seen this extreme cut shot but would like to but I have seen the spot shot made from the kitchen without the cue ball hitting a rail after or before by Tony Watson and almost made by J R Calvert who hit both sides of the pocket many times just couldn't make the ball. Leonard
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Is Leonard your first name?
 
Scotty came down about 13 years ago to amarillo, tx and busted the damn town. Actually, we didn't and don't have very many strong pool players. But the guy he ended up really beating once played buddy hall with the 8 and the breaks on bar table and beat him, so he used to play pretty strong. He really set up his action nicely. He played in the bars for about 3-4 days then set up a good pumped up player. He started off giving him the 8 on a barbox, then gave him the seven and beat him out of about 2500-3000. The next day he decided to give jerry the 6 and bet real high. Before they started the both had a cup of coffee. Exchanged a few pool stories. A few hours later after they were playing, scotty said i'm done!. Something was wrong. Well our local player ended up jarring scotty with the coffee he served him. When scotty pulled up and jerry didn't say anything we all knew what happened. BTW Scotty said the best player ever saw was Buddy Hall. Scotty does have a great stroke he did seveal stroke shots after everybody knew he was a top player.
 
Well, I have seen Scotty do some amazing things on a pool table and pitching coins, but if you want a proposition bet, heres one. A friend of mine will bet you (even money) that he can put an object ball on the spot and from the break end of the table shoot the spot shot with the cueball in his mouth. He usually takes the even money bet on a bar box. He may need some odds on a 9 ft.

Southpaw
 
I've pitched coins with Scotty before. We were pitching to the spot for $100 a throw in Atlanta. I was getting two throws to his one and it was all I could do to break even.
 
clint3612 said:
Well our local player ended up jarring scotty with the coffee he served him.
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I think that is one of the most, if not the most, despicable things a player can do. Anyone who resort to that kind of tactic is, IMO, a sorry excuse for a human being.

Aaron
 
Southpaw said:
Well, I have seen Scotty do some amazing things on a pool table and pitching coins, but if you want a proposition bet, heres one. A friend of mine will bet you (even money) that he can put an object ball on the spot and from the break end of the table shoot the spot shot with the cueball in his mouth. He usually takes the even money bet on a bar box. He may need some odds on a 9 ft.

Southpaw
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I know a guy that would probably take that bet as well. I doubt if he gets many takers on that type of bet anymore, seeing as how is nickname is "spitball" exactly for that reason. 'Course, I guess your guy might be the same guy, lol.

Aaron
 
Aaron_S said:
I think that is one of the most, if not the most, despicable things a player can do. Anyone who resort to that kind of tactic is, IMO, a sorry excuse for a human being.

Aaron
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What does he mean by "JARRING HIM WITH THE COFFEE"? at first i thought he smacked him with it, now it sounds like he might have spiked the coffee with a laxitive or something.
 
I was at the DCC this year and Justin Cone was trying to get action with this prop bet: Justin was willing to bet that he could put the cueball in his mouth, and fire it out of his mouth and draw off of an object ball further than anyone could draw off of the same ball using a cue. There was a whole bunch of us wanting to all donate like 20 each just to see him do it. We never could get enough since Justin only wanted to do it betting 300.

What was funny too was that someone in the crowd was like "Well how many tries are you gonna take on this?" and Justin looked at him like he was from Mars and said, Tries? ONE TRY! He later told us that he never miscues from his mouth (lmao) and that the women see him do this and are very intrigued at action he can get on the cueball with his mouth/tongue. ;-)

When Scotty pulled up after getting jarred, was the money posted? how did that get resolved?
 
PROG8R said:
What does he mean by "JARRING HIM WITH THE COFFEE"? at first i thought he smacked him with it, now it sounds like he might have spiked the coffee with a laxitive or something.
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...let's just say the caffeine wasn't the strongest "substance" in the cup of coffee....
 
PROG8R said:
What does he mean by "JARRING HIM WITH THE COFFEE"? at first i thought he smacked him with it, now it sounds like he might have spiked the coffee with a laxitive or something.
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** Edited so as to not give anybody a recipe for jarring someone.
 
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cuetechasaurus said:
I heard that Scotty can shoot a spot shot, with the cueball behind the headstring, and cut the object ball into the side pocket. Has anyone seen him do this? There must be something I'm missing in the description, because that is way more than a 90 degree cut, and he can't even see the contact point. Is there some lame trick to this, or does he really do it?
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With the cue ball behind the line and the object ball on the spot, I would bet I could cut the object ball in the side in 2 maybe 3 shots tops.

Its not hard I’ve seen Bucky Bell do a shot similar to this before.
 
Rasta said:
. .. Incidentally, the character Sky Masterson was modeled after Alvin Clarence Thomas, better known as Titanic Thompson, one of the greatest proposition betters ever. ...
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And there is a rollicking-good biography of Thompson called "The Unsinkable Titanic Thompson" that I think is still available from the publisher. How to throw a walnut over a 5-story building is in there.
 
ShootingArts said:
... Nothing outrageous about Bob kicking the ball in. Matter of fact I'd have to try it if someone gave me thirty tries on a typical Diamond.

Hu
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It took me about 15 tries on a 6x12-foot snooker table last night. I thought I'd try it, and the triple-shimmed GC was busy.

After making the kick on the snooker table a couple of times, I tried this: put the cue ball on the corner of the D and a ball on the black spot (down by the other end rail). Cut the ball straight into the corner, but not the easy one! If you put the cue ball on the green spot, cut the object ball to the left. If you find someone willing to shoot this shot, offer them no more than 20 tries. I'll try it in 30.
 
nyjoe14.1 said:
With the cue ball behind the line and the object ball on the spot, I would bet I could cut the object ball in the side in 2 maybe 3 shots tops.

Its not hard I’ve seen Bucky Bell do a shot similar to this before.
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Without the cue ball hitting a cushion before it hits the object ball?
 
Bob Jewett said:
And there is a rollicking-good biography of Thompson called "The Unsinkable Titanic Thompson" that I think is still available from the publisher. How to throw a walnut over a 5-story building is in there.
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Titanic Thompson was another poker player whom Benny Binion did not want the public to associate with poker. Let's just say he was not known for always being completely honest.

I will have to find and read The Unsinkable Titanic Thompson.

Good Rolls,
Rasta
 
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