Scrim Layout for Upcoming ER

monski said:
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Sherm would know where Mindanao is. Davao, where I go, is a big city. 3rd in the world in terms of area I think. But its mostly mountains and forests.

Yes I love northern Mindanao. My wife is from Gango, a little baranguay near Cagayan De Oro City. CDO is a city approximately like my hometown of Cincinnati. Not too big, not too small. I have friends from Davao but haven't ventured to the southern provinces. It's not wise for a Kano to go too far south due to the muslim factions. I was reading in yesterdays CDO on-line newspaper where there were terrorist training facilities all over central Mindanao. They have a bunch of the extremists who were ran out of Afganistan training people to make bombs. I've heard that Davao was relatively safe for Kanos but travel to Davao from CDO was not safe. Also heard that Zamboanga is one of the most beautiful places on earth, but it's not safe for Americans! What a beautiful country, and the people are some of the nicest in the world, as long as you avoid the Muslim strongholds.

just more hot air!

Sherm
 
monski said:
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Sherm would know where Mindanao is. Davao, where I go, is a big city. .

Not that anyone gives a hoot, but I was born in Davao City.

Fred
 
Fred Agnir said:
Not that anyone gives a hoot, but I was born in Davao City.

Fred
Damn!
I didn't know that your folks were Davaoeno Fred.
I hope they didn't make you eat Durian. :D
 
JoeyInCali said:
Damn!
I didn't know that your folks were Davaoeno Fred.
We're Ilocano. My parents were in the area during college. My father taught at Silliman University. Davao may have been the closest hospital, for all I know.


I hope they didn't make you eat Durian. :D

I'd rather eat ochra.

Fred
 
Drool...

Fred Agnir said:
We're Ilocano. My parents were in the area during college. My father taught at Silliman University. Davao may have been the closest hospital, for all I know.




I'd rather eat ochra.

Fred

Ocra slightly boiled served with sauted bagoong (salted shrimp paste) and steamed white rice on banana leaves. No utensils...will just savor using my hands. :p What a burden!!!

Sorry guys but I need to call my wife ASAP. There are some modifications needed to redesign my lunch. :D
 
magnum said:
Ocra slightly boiled served with sauted bagoong (salted shrimp paste) and steamed white rice on banana leaves. No utensils...will just savor using my hands. :p What a burden!!!

Sorry guys but I need to call my wife ASAP. There are some modifications needed to redesign my lunch. :D

My Filipina wife has been having a field day with the home grown okra, cucumbers, tomatoes and corn. She thinks our produce has more flavor that the varieties grown in the Philippines.

just more hot air!

Sherm>> Glad Durian and Baluts are hard to get in Cincinnati!!
 
monski said:
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I believe in this. Maybe Don's case is more of an exception. Maybe the other people who have ordered Edwin's AZB cues get their updates. Maybe we can request them to at least confirm that ER has been giving them regular updates on the progress of their cues. Hopefully Don will also get an update soon. ;)

Recieved an email from Edwin this morning. He is busy and has been having problems with his computer. Virus related I think. He is going to a new system soon. I am happy with the reported progress of my cue and am anxiously and patiently waiting. I have no problems with the way this project is going and did not wish to imply that I did. I consider it a rare opportunity.
Thanks for your help.
Purdman :D
 
hubielim said:
LOL, so you've tried eating balut I suppose :p

No, I just couldn't do it! I bought a few but my wife and step daughters ate them. Talk about "Fear Factor" stuff! I think I'd rather eat mountain oysters!

Sherm
 
Fred Agnir said:
We're Ilocano. My parents were in the area during college. My father taught at Silliman University. Davao may have been the closest hospital, for all I know.




I'd rather eat ochra.

Fred

Nice to see Filipinos and American friends hangin around the forums :D
 
Donald A. Purdy said:
Recieved an email from Edwin this morning. He is busy and has been having problems with his computer. Virus related I think. He is going to a new system soon. I am happy with the reported progress of my cue and am anxiously and patiently waiting. I have no problems with the way this project is going and did not wish to imply that I did. I consider it a rare opportunity.
Thanks for your help.
Purdman :D
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No problemo. Consider me in the same boat. Am patiently waiting as well... ;)
 
Just wanted to let you guys know. I was at the shop of Edwin yesterday and while chatting with him he told me that he will not I repeat will not accept orders for the year anymore. Damn I should have ordered my cue earlier, anyway will just have to wait for 2006 before I can place an order.

You guys can confirm this with Edwin once his computer is up and running again. He was working on one of the AZB cue when I entered his shop.
 
hubielim said:
Just wanted to let you guys know. I was at the shop of Edwin yesterday and while chatting with him he told me that he will not I repeat will not accept orders for the year anymore. Damn I should have ordered my cue earlier, anyway will just have to wait for 2006 before I can place an order.

You guys can confirm this with Edwin once his computer is up and running again. He was working on one of the AZB cue when I entered his shop.
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How does this relate to the scheduled release of the azb cues? I'm sure everyone would want ER to finish the cues according to his sched. Just wondering if he gave an estimate of some sort... ;)
 
Koop said:
Don't sweat it RZ. You have a beautiful cue coming from a master cuemaker. The only people who could possibly take umbrage are the ladies on the cue. If they don't have an issue then who gives a crap what anyone else says.

All the best,
Koop

Well said!!! TAP TAP TAP
ruk
 
monski said:
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How does this relate to the scheduled release of the azb cues? I'm sure everyone would want ER to finish the cues according to his sched. Just wondering if he gave an estimate of some sort... ;)

Easy now Ace. Rudeness and taking spokesperson position (everyone? did you check the participants replies? Ever wonder what goes on beyond this thread? ever feel egged on to expose motives?) in a thread of a project that you are not a part of makes people question motives. Inciting discontent has always been a negative marketing strategy and nothing new in this industry. You need to come up with a new one to shill your cuemaker. I'm not surprised that you don't know how the one-of creation journey goes.

You use to come and go as you please here. If you needed questions answered you could've easily come here, 4 miles from your house, just as easily as you go to ****'s which is 5 times further. Did the coffee and lunches that my wife serve you whenever you're here scare you away? Or did the conversations with my father bore you? ;) ;) ;) to you too!
 
bandido said:
Easy now Ace. Rudeness and taking spokesperson position (everyone? did you check the participants replies? Ever wonder what goes on beyond this thread? ever feel egged on to expose motives?) in a thread of a project that you are not a part of makes people question motives. Inciting discontent has always been a negative marketing strategy and nothing new in this industry. You need to come up with a new one to shill your cuemaker. I'm not surprised that you don't know how the one-of creation journey goes.

You use to come and go as you please here. If you needed questions answered you could've easily come here, 4 miles from your house, just as easily as you go to ****'s which is 5 times further. Did the coffee and lunches that my wife serve you whenever you're here scare you away? Or did the conversations with my father bore you? ;) ;) ;) to you too!
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Not acting as spokesman boss. Just asked a question. Some people asked about you. I referred your website. Hubie gave an update, I asked for any detail if any. Motives, I really want to know when these cues will be finished since I know you are a professional and will be prioritizing these at the moment. Then I can get back to you to follow up our pending biz.

Yes, I go to him .... and I am having some cues built. He goes to my mall as well which makes it convenient and saves me the additional travel. I also have others in progress by other makers. Miltonio just delivered... inthe process or ordering 2 more... Scouting for a case and a used custom.

I happen to think your wife makes the best coffee in the world. I enjoy our lunches. I like going to your place.

With other people aside from me visiting (not to mention your "computer" problems), I just inferred that you would rather concentrate on present business (azb) when you did not return my email re the matter me and our friend Ed's follow-up. Sent you a follow up email on your site and personal... and you did not answer. So I thought I'd leave you alone till you have this azb cues behind you. That's why I wanted to know any adjustment in the azb cue sched.

Maybe the wink smiley gave you the wrong impression. I put it in most if not all my posts and pms. I don't mean anything by that. Its even in my signature I think... Just want it to be part of my posts.

(won't post winke smileys to avoid confusion)
 
monski said:
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Not acting as spokesman boss. Just asked a question. Some people asked about you. I referred your website. Hubie gave an update, I asked for any detail if any. Motives, I really want to know when these cues will be finished since I know you are a professional and will be prioritizing these at the moment. Then I can get back to you to follow up our pending biz.

Yes, I go to him .... and I am having some cues built. He goes to my mall as well which makes it convenient and saves me the additional travel. I also have others in progress by other makers. Miltonio just delivered... inthe process or ordering 2 more... Scouting for a case and a used custom.

I happen to think your wife makes the best coffee in the world. I enjoy our lunches. I like going to your place.

With other people aside from me visiting (not to mention your "computer" problems), I just inferred that you would rather concentrate on present business (azb) when you did not return my email re the matter me and our friend Ed's follow-up. Sent you a follow up email on your site and personal... and you did not answer. So I thought I'd leave you alone till you have this azb cues behind you. That's why I wanted to know any adjustment in the azb cue sched.

Maybe the wink smiley gave you the wrong impression. I put it in most if not all my posts and pms. I don't mean anything by that. Its even in my signature I think... Just want it to be part of my posts.

(won't post winke smileys to avoid confusion)

Interesting, e-mails? You use to just come unannounced, text message 2+times a day or call my cell or shop number. Suddenly you act like you"re in another country, not even an excuse nowadays as a US cuemaker can easily contact me when he needed me for non-pool related stuff, and more demanding of info than the people involved in the project. People were having fun talking about Davao and foods except for you who comes in rude.

All your intentions that you want people to believe are flushed down the drain when concurred to how close you were to this family. Amazingly, the pool world is so small and word get to me even from people that you think are your allies. I've been told about previous piracy attempts and have direct knowledge of the most recent one. Please don't call my apprentice in the middle of the day and ask him to take the day off to do a table repair that you brokered. Such action is unacceptable and not expected from a "friend".

monski said:
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With other people aside from me visiting (not to mention your "computer" problems), I just inferred that you would rather concentrate on present business (azb) when you did not return my email re the matter me and our friend Ed's follow-up. Sent you a follow up email on your site and personal... and you did not answer. So I thought I'd leave you alone till you have this azb cues behind you. That's why I wanted to know any adjustment in the azb cue sched.

Huh?! Is this really coming from somebody who gets in on almost every cue related thread, comes and goes to my shop to watch all projects and calls me directly to confirm what is heard from somebody about my going-ons? You quit coming here after I asked you to ease up on Mika888 as people will start thinking that you're cutting in on his action.

You'd best just genuinely enjoy what you say you appreciate and quit your marketing tactics. Evidently people here have intelligence that go beyond Staten Island, ocra, balut and Davao City.

If I remember correctly, you and not I was the one who announced my website. There was a reason for my not doing it, you can't contact me there unless you speak the language.

ER<such a waste of time--bye
 
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bandido said:
Interesting, e-mails? You use to just come unannounced, text message 2+times a day or call my cell or shop number. Suddenly you act like you"re in another country, not even an excuse nowadays as a US cuemaker can easily contact me when he needed me for non-pool related stuff, and more demanding of info than the people involved in the project. People were having fun talking about Davao and foods except for you who comes in rude.

All your intentions that you want people to believe are flushed down the drain when concurred to how close you were to this family. Amazingly, the pool world is so small and word get to me even from people that you think are your allies. I've been told about previous piracy attempts and have direct knowledge of the most recent one. Please don't call my apprentice in the middle of the day and ask him to take the day off to do a table repair that you brokered. Such action is unacceptable and not expected from a "friend".



Huh?! Is this really coming from somebody who gets in on almost every cue related thread, comes and goes to my shop to watch all projects and calls me directly to confirm what is heard from somebody about my going-ons? You quit coming here after I asked you to ease up on Mika888 as people will start thinking that you're cutting in on his action.

You'd best just genuinely enjoy what you say you appreciate and quit your marketing tactics. Evidently people here have intelligence that go beyond Staten Island, ocra, balut and Davao City.

If I remember correctly, you and not I was the one who announced my website. There was a reason for my not doing it, you can't contact me there unless you speak the language.

ER<such a waste of time--bye
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I don't know why you seem so upset.

I don't know what Mika's action is. We talked about this. I talked with Mika too. We clarified with each other.

When we had lunch you told us that you've been losing your cellphones and you might not be using cellphone in the meantime. When I texted you after that, you never responded so I thought you gave it up.

Website: Your website was the buzz on that day. I did not realize that it was of an exclusive nature. Nor does the site say that it is exclusive. Sent you emails there. That you did not answer. So are you saying that I was not welcome there? So if i can't contact you on your website and you did not answer my email, what's a guy to think but you're too busy which I don't take against you.

It was I who mentioned the thing on Davao which got people talking. Then Hubie announced that you are not accepting orders for 2005 anymore. It was then that I asked the question that got you upset.

Please clarify your point on piracy. Who was I pirating and for what purpose (or if you like we can take this up with the person involved)?

Please recall that it was I who informed you that your present apprentice needed a job. I was doing tables with him even before you took him in. I did not try to ask him to take a day off to do a table. The last table I brokered was the table your friend bought and the Gold Crown for Ed. Did not talk to your apprentice re those tables. Even for the tables at the mall --- my order to the mall pool hall employees is sched the guy after work or sunday.

My intent is simple. I wanted to get an idea on when you would finish azb cues so I can go back to you on where we left off.

This thread has nothing to do with you know who so why are you bringing him up? I'm asking him to do cues for me that's all. Helping him out, marketing? I clarified these already.

I really want to clear up the matter on the piracy thing you are saying. Lets talk about this with the people you think are involved. Furthermore, from what you are saying now, it looks to me that you are the one who may have issues. Lets bring these out. I will go to your place Tuesday say 930am.

Thanks
 
monski said:
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I don't know why you seem so upset.

I don't know what Mika's action is. We talked about this. I talked with Mika too. We clarified with each other.

When we had lunch you told us that you've been losing your cellphones and you might not be using cellphone in the meantime. When I texted you after that, you never responded so I thought you gave it up.

See the above posts. Check the Mika thread in this forum and your succeeding thread which was of the same time frame. It just shows that your words are different from your actions.

Website: Your website was the buzz on that day. I did not realize that it was of an exclusive nature. Nor does the site say that it is exclusive. Sent you emails there. That you did not answer. So are you saying that I was not welcome there? So if i can't contact you on your website and you did not answer my email, what's a guy to think but you're too busy which I don't take against you.

It was I who mentioned the thing on Davao which got people talking. Then Hubie announced that you are not accepting orders for 2005 anymore. It was then that I asked the question that got you upset.

You were the one who announced here and in EPT this website that was and still is under construction that's being undertaken by my Japan dealer. You're just a troublemaker that pre-empted the formal announcement. What happens then if people try to contact and not get a reply from there? Either way, your excuse of not being able to reach me with the use of e-mail and cell phone and thus resorting to your rude behaviour doesn't hold water as you have verified that you are close to the people here and comes and goes as you please.

Please clarify your point on piracy. Who was I pirating and for what purpose (or if you like we can take this up with the person involved)?

Please recall that it was I who informed you that your present apprentice needed a job.
Therein lies the problem, your understanding that if people don't have a job with you they're jobless.

I was doing tables with him even before you took him in.

This was exactly what started his troubles with his former employer who is a cuemaker and POOL TABLE Manufacturer. You did this very same thing which cut out the company of income which in tun went to your pocket. Glad you brought that up.

I did not try to ask him to take a day off to do a table.

I beg to differ, I was in the same room with him when you called.

The last table I brokered was the table your friend bought and the Gold Crown for Ed. Did not talk to your apprentice re those tables. Even for the tables at the mall --- my order to the mall pool hall employees is sched the guy after work or sunday.

I never talked about sales, just repairs for which he is your "go to" guy as you voluntarily verified. All I said was that your asking him to take the day off to do a job for you is unacceptable. It is now and has been before.

My intent is simple. I wanted to get an idea on when you would finish azb cues so I can go back to you on where we left off.

This thread has nothing to do with you know who so why are you bringing him up? I'm asking him to do cues for me that's all. Helping him out, marketing? I clarified these already.

He was brought up to demonstrate DISTANCE. If you can drive all the way there, 20+ miles away, then driving to here, which is less than 5 miles away from your house, makes it 4+ times easier for you. So non-satisfactory answer to your inquiry which you seem to use as a reason for your demonstrated rudeness was an uncalled-for show. Your intention isn't as simple as you want people to believe.

I really want to clear up the matter on the piracy thing you are saying. Lets talk about this with the people you think are involved. Furthermore, from what you are saying now, it looks to me that you are the one who may have issues. Lets bring these out. I will go to your place Tuesday say 930am.

Thanks

"with the people"? You're just a suitor to these people whose schedule "You" have to and will always follow. The other guys just non-chalantly talk about it, unfortunately of lower education, and as experienced can change sides to protect themselves. They'll never hold up to a formal interrogation though. Maybe you would like to bring our friend who you brokered a local custom cue for but was so ashamed of the history of the cue's creation that he eventually found out.

Call my shop as I'll make sure to call before 9:30 and leave word if I've concluded an appointment.
 
bandido said:
"with the people"? You're just a suitor to these people whose schedule "You" have to and will always follow. The other guys just non-chalantly talk about it, unfortunately of lower education, and as experienced can change sides to protect themselves. They'll never hold up to a formal interrogation though. Maybe you would like to bring our friend who you brokered a local custom cue for but was so ashamed of the history of the cue's creation that he eventually found out.

Call my shop as I'll make sure to call before 9:30 and leave word if I've concluded an appointment.
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So by asking if you gave details re the azb cues sched you said your piece on your post. I was asking Hubie. If he said that you gave no such details, that would have been the end of my question.

I will try to respond though:

1) --You're just a troublemaker that pre-empted the formal announcement.- I did announce it but so did the other people who were buzzing it during that day. Anyway why take it up only now? If could have deleted the announcement if I knew your position on it.

2) thus resorting to your rude behaviour doesn't hold water as you have verified that you are close to the people here and comes and goes as you please -- what was rude? asking if you gave details on the sched? As I said, I was asking Hubie. Ih he said he did not know anything, that would have ended it.

3) Therein lies the problem, your understanding that if people don't have a job with you they're jobless. -- The fact is he was jobless and asked me if I could find him a job. I informed you and you took him in. I was happy for the guy.

4) This was exactly what started his troubles with his former employer who is a cuemaker and POOL TABLE Manufacturer. You did this very same thing which cut out the company of income which in tun went to your pocket. Glad you brought that up. -- Back then, he was employed by that same cuemaker and manufacturer. So I did not cut up on anything. I also did not know anthing about that table purchase which that maker and manufacturer sold to the buyer. In fact, I was the one who introduced the buyer to that maker and manufacturer. The buyer bought cues and a table. I had nothing to do with it. Just setting the record straight -- plus the buyer had big problems with that table.

5) I beg to differ, I was in the same room with him when you called.-- Sure it was me? Did you call or talk to be about it? So how do you know? Why did you keep it to yourself? As I said before, when I ask him, he wants to do it after work or on his day off. I totally respect that. And that's my rule with him.

6) He was brought up to demonstrate DISTANCE. If you can drive all the way there, 20+ miles away, then driving to here, which is less than 5 miles away from your house, makes it 4+ times easier for you. --- I am having him make me cues. So why will I not go there? I frequented your place to look at cues yes, but also to see if there was progress with ours. I (like the other people here) don't mind if you take your time. But I can also have cues made right? My Miltonio took a lot of my time, and the same with these cues by him and other cue makers.

7) The other guys just non-chalantly talk about it, unfortunately of lower education, and as experienced can change sides to protect themselves. They'll never hold up to a formal interrogation though.--- Protect them from who? me? what can I do to him/them? But you should not believe everything you hear. If I really offered to pirate him/them, it's better for him/them to tell me in front of you -- and he/they can tell me in my face. They can show their loyalty. At the same time it will be fair for me right? Everyone has the right to face his accuser or rumor monger.

8) Maybe you would like to bring our friend who you brokered a local custom cue for but was so ashamed of the history of the cue's creation that he eventually found out. --- I'm not clear on this. If you can be more specific, maybe I can oblige.

I will call your shop.

Ed, I have no ill feelings or what. I also like your cue. In fact I just recently bought another one -- the one you made for ED.

All in all we need to clarify this and settle person to person.

Thanks
 
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