Scruggs on Ebay???

it doesn't look right to me
but tim made some unusual cues in the late 80s early 90s
when panagraph stuff was popular
any scruggs is a nice playing cue
 
Scruggs

It looks to me like someone added the inlays to a Scruggs cue,but you can't be sure.

Eric
 
It is a Scruggs

He did a few differant things, and this was something that didn't do well at trade shows. He decided to continue with his tradititonal builds.
Nick :)
 
Doeno konws!

it doesn't look right to me
but tim made some unusual cues in the late 80s early 90s
when panagraph stuff was popular
any scruggs is a nice playing cue

Any more Ron Thomas cases Mr Dean?
Nick :)
 
Hello everyone. This is just a HEADS UP on the Scruggs. It is a possibility that this is a Scruggs I used to own. I bought from the original owner who's nickname was KILLER. The cue had five floating points with a dark knott in between the tops of two of the points, which didn't bother me, but maybe it bothered a new owner enough that they had the forearm replaced. I can't imagine that Tim would have made two cues with the name KILLER on them in 1996. This is just a possibiltiy, it may not be the cue I had. Mine had two shafts with silver rings. You might want to ask for more pictures. The inlays are Tulipwood not rosewwod as stated in the auction.
 
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sent him question on ebay yesterday about LOA and if he is an original owner of the cue, still no response
this one seems to have no points
 
Scruggs

I am the one selling the tim scruggs in question. Just a heads up that I am not the owner. I am selling this for a customer. I know that the forearm was replaced a little over a year ago. I asked a Scruggs expert and he told me that there is a good possiblity these inlays were done by Bill McDaniels while he was working with Tim.
 
I am the one selling the tim scruggs in question. Just a heads up that I am not the owner. I am selling this for a customer. I know that the forearm was replaced a little over a year ago. I asked a Scruggs expert and he told me that there is a good possiblity these inlays were done by Bill McDaniels while he was working with Tim.

No offense intended, but this is a HUGE issue that should have been disclosed. If I had purchased this cue (eBay or here) without knowing it was not a fully original Scruggs, I would have been LIVID!!!

I know you're stating you're the "middle-man", but it's your reputation as a seller on the line...not the anonymous seller! And none of this was disclosed until it was brought up by the original owner of the cue!

Jason
 
I second this:..........


No offense intended, but this is a HUGE issue that should have been disclosed. If I had purchased this cue (eBay or here) without knowing it was not a fully original Scruggs, I would have been LIVID!!!

I know you're stating you're the "middle-man", but it's your reputation as a seller on the line...not the anonymous seller! And none of this was disclosed until it was brought up by the original owner of the cue!

Jason
 
I do apologize Jam. I didn't know anything about the forearm or the inlays unitl i had dinner with a personal friend of Tim's last night and he informed of this. At this point it is no longer for sale since i wasn't aware of any of this and has already been taken down off of ebay.

Sorry for any confusion this has caused. The other cues are completely as stated and I am the owner of these 3.
 
I hate to tell you guys Bill McDaniel was a half owner of Scruggs cues and did work on a lot of the cues that came out of the Scruggs shop
 
No offense intended, but this is a HUGE issue that should have been disclosed. If I had purchased this cue (eBay or here) without knowing it was not a fully original Scruggs, I would have been LIVID!!!

I know you're stating you're the "middle-man", but it's your reputation as a seller on the line...not the anonymous seller! And none of this was disclosed until it was brought up by the original owner of the cue!

Jason

Jason,
You could easily own a McDaniels inlaid Scruggs. They had an arrangement and there was a period when McD, was indeed working with Tim and on TS cues.

JV
 
scruggs

Do a search here on AZ for - "Capone, Scruggs, Webb & Drexler" another similar one popped up.
 
I hate to tell you guys Bill McDaniel was a half owner of Scruggs cues and did work on a lot of the cues that came out of the Scruggs shop

Please don't "hate to tell me" that information...that's what makes this forum awesome!

Do a search here on AZ for - "Capone, Scruggs, Webb & Drexler" another similar one popped up.

Which is why I referenced both threads...

Jason,
You could easily own a McDaniels inlaid Scruggs. They had an arrangement and there was a period when McD, was indeed working with Tim and on TS cues.


JV

I have no issue with that...however, if you read both threads on this cue, it wasn't an "original" cue. The forearm was REPLACED...which indicates there was an issue with the cue. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt as I do believe you're very well known on this forum and that you would never advocate the misrepresentation of a cue being sold on here. (Not a "dig" - I mean that sincerely).

Had this cue stayed on eBay, I never would have gotten involved. However, I happened to get a wild hair this morning and decided to see if there were any affordable (to me) Scruggs around...I put two and two together on this one and very nicely informed this thread that the eBay Scruggs was listed here on AZ.

I have no issue with the seller of the Scruggs/McDaniels cue. I am giving him the benefit of the doubt rather than jumping too far down his throat. I could believe that he knew about the forearm replacement and tried to pass it off as "a friends" cue that he knew nothing about...or I could believe that it really did belong to someone else and he is taking the brunt of the fallout oftentimes coming when someone acts as the "middle-man" in a transaction... I am choosing to give him the benefit of the doubt and believe that it is the latter...

I believe he did the right thing and pulled it...again because there must have been an issue with this cue because the original owner has come on here stating the forearm wasn't the same, but he "believed" this was his cue...so that tells me it wasn't a "collaborative" effort originally...but rather a damaged cue that was "fixed"...that to me is a VERY important fact when purchasing a "higher dollar" cue...like a Scruggs.



Jason
 
Not true

I hate to tell you guys Bill McDaniel was a half owner of Scruggs cues and did work on a lot of the cues that came out of the Scruggs shop

Timi and Mike did send some veneer cues down for Bill to inlay and cut down. He couldn't index the cues properly to get the points even at the top. Not on even one of them. They didn't sell any of them.
Bill did panograph work. Timi tried to sell that style cue but no one was buying them. There were a few that got sold. Production on those cues were short lived.
I don't hate to tell you the main influence Bill had on Timi's shop was in his business model and in production not much at all.
Bill was a business man. He did make a good playing cue that used plastic to help the joint's fit from wearing out. Between Timi and Tony, Bill learned how to build cues.
Nick :)
 
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