Scruggs on Ebay???

[rigmaster]

When did they teach Bill?

Timi and Mike did send some veneer cues down for Bill to inlay and cut down. He couldn't index the cues properly to get the points even at the top. Not on even one of them. They didn't sell any of them.
Bill did panograph work. Timi tried to sell that style cue but no one was buying them. There were a few that got sold. Production on those cues were short lived.
I don't hate to tell you the main influence Bill had on Timi's shop was in his business model and in production not much at all.
Bill was a business man. He did make a good playing cue that used plastic to help the joint's fit from wearing out. Between Timi and Tony, Bill learned how to build cues.
Nick

The cue in question is a 96...I have one of Bill's first cues and the points are even inner and outer with 4 veneers? Do you think Bill was just lucky on this 80's cue? Walker has one without the logo as well and it's points and veneers are even too... I guess both of us was lucky to get an early Mc Daniel with even points or did Tim make his early blanks with veneers? Where was this plastic Bill used to help the joint's fit from wearing out?Both of these cues were built before Tony started making cues! Thanks, Ron

 

[Bamacues]

This is what the cue looked like when I owned it:

Joe

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[kbooks3]

This is what the cue looked like when I owned it:

Joe

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Hi Joe...why was the forearm replaced? Just cause of the "burn mark" between the points? or did it have a roll?...just trying to understand why someone would destroy this cue...

 

[Bamacues]

Hi Joe...why was the forearm replaced? Just cause of the "burn mark" between the points? or did it have a roll?...just trying to understand why someone would destroy this cue...

I have no idea...no roll...excellent condition...played great. The only blemish was the mark on the forearm which really did not affect the cue at all...just a character mark. Only thing that would make sense to me would have been if the forearm became damaged or broken at some point. It was a really nice cue. Some things you just can't understand.......

Joe

 

[spktur]

Timi and Mike did send some veneer cues down for Bill to inlay and cut down. He couldn't index the cues properly to get the points even at the top. Not on even one of them. They didn't sell any of them.
Bill did panograph work. Timi tried to sell that style cue but no one was buying them. There were a few that got sold. Production on those cues were short lived.
I don't hate to tell you the main influence Bill had on Timi's shop was in his business model and in production not much at all.
Bill was a business man. He did make a good playing cue that used plastic to help the joint's fit from wearing out. Between Timi and Tony, Bill learned how to build cues.
Nick

You might want to check your sources, mine are direct from Bill and corroborated by Tim's own bio in the first edition of the Blue Book.

 

[Bamacues]

You might want to check your sources, mine are direct from Bill and corroborated by Tim's own bio in the first edition of the Blue Book.

All of these great cuemakers were pretty much associated in the beginnng...

Joe

 

[spktur]

Timi and Mike did send some veneer cues down for Bill to inlay and cut down. He couldn't index the cues properly to get the points even at the top. Not on even one of them. They didn't sell any of them.
Bill did panograph work. Timi tried to sell that style cue but no one was buying them. There were a few that got sold. Production on those cues were short lived.
I don't hate to tell you the main influence Bill had on Timi's shop was in his business model and in production not much at all.
Bill was a business man. He did make a good playing cue that used plastic to help the joint's fit from wearing out. Between Timi and Tony, Bill learned how to build cues.
Nick

This 96 Scruggs cue was out of the McDaniel shop and was one of a group of six with the same inlay pattern but with differing veneers. I think the points look pretty good. And I assume the Tony you mention is Tony Sciannella of Black Boar. Here's an excerpt from his website

The First Step
The Black Boar brainchild was directly related to the players’ needs that Tony had discovered through owning Annapolis Billiard Supply. Annapolis Billiards Supply was featuring Scruggs Cues, and they had proven popular. After identifying the need for a new level of professional cue Tony approached Tim Scruggs to play a role in manufacturing the Black Boar concept. Tim responded that he was having finish issues and as a result was overloaded with back orders. Tony, recognizing a perfect opportunity to pick Tim’s brain, volunteered to attempt to solve Tim’s finish problem. While Vince saw to the day in-day out operation of Annapolis Billiards Supply, Tony was tending to the graphics firm in his basement (the only real money maker) and, preferring experience to compensation, working at great length to get Tim caught up.

In the meantime, there was a trade show approaching and a self-imposed deadline for the launch of the Black Boar line. With T-shirts made and circulated time was of the essence. Tony and his brother Raymond purchased a CNC mill and Tony, Jr. quickly--- with a pencil and a calculator---began establishing cad cam programs to produce the designs Tony and Vince had created. Tim Scruggs solicited his friend, Bill McDaniels to knock out the first set of 10 blanks. The blanks from McDaniels were just what the doctor ordered… they came over sized without wraps, finish, inlays or shafts. Tim Scruggs and his staff produced the shafts. Tony, Jr. and his father orchestrated all of the inlay work. Tony, Sr. was responsible for leather wraps and finishing the cues. A little known truth is that Mike Cochran (to this day a close personal friend and confidant of Tony, Sr.’s) is another unsung hero. He had a hand in each stage of the operation. Needless to say, the cues were a huge collaborative success.

Tony’s inspiration was further fueled by the response from that first show. Based on the initial interest generated, in the following year, Tony and company built the factory in College Park. Tony’s passion to examine the physics to advance the playability of cues made it necessary to have the facilities to produce the cues from end to end.

Note Bill built his first ten blanks too.

 

[rigmaster]

And the POINTS look EVEN? Lucky I Guess?

 

[spktur]

I was in and out of Bill's shop on a regular basis from the mid eighties till he retired and saw a lot of Scruggs go through.