Sealing/Polish for a durable finish

nfuids

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I recently bought a lathe to keep my shafts / tip clean.

I have tried various cleaning products, and decided on one I like.

I have a few question regarding sealing and finish/polish of the shaft.

SEALING:
- What is sealing for really? Is it to help keep the shaft clean for a longer period?
- Does it have an impact on the finish/feel of the shaft?
- What product do you use to seal?

FINISH/POLISH:
- I normally use a 2000 sandpaper to finish the cleaning of my shaft (before sealing it)
- I tried a few products that were created specifically for shaft and other products not specifically made for shaft with good result. The end feeling was always smooth, I had various feeling depending on the product, but what bugs me the most, is the period of time the shaft keep its finish.
- Another irritation point for me, is that when I apply chalk to my tip, it kinda mark the shaft with blue spot.. sometime way down, not near the tip at all. And my eyes seem to be disrupted by these blue spot when I do my practice stroke before a shot.

So my questions are these:
- What sealing/polish product/method (or any other tip really) could you give me to help me with these?:confused:
 
I save anything finer than 600 for after I seal. Typically, I'll use a magic eraser with Hightower's cleaner to get the majority of the chalk out. Normally that's good enough. I was using Hightower's sealer until it seemed to turn funky(I had it for a LONG time). I've been using Enduro sanding sealing and it's fine, just takes longer. It DOES raise the grain, as it's waterborne, but I haven't noticed any problems.

Then I'll sand 600,1000, ect..until I'm happy

As far as chalk on your shaft.....angle your shaft when you chalk??? I've never noticed any chalk dust distracting me.....
 
nfuids said:
I recently bought a lathe to keep my shafts / tip clean.

I have tried various cleaning products, and decided on one I like.

I have a few question regarding sealing and finish/polish of the shaft.

SEALING:
- What is sealing for really? Is it to help keep the shaft clean for a longer period?


So my questions are these:
- What sealing/polish product/method (or any other tip really) could you give me to help me with these?:confused:
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Once chalk gets into the wood pours its pretty tough to get 100 % out with out sanding.

The last thing you want on a shaft is a finish........................
Like trying to slide your hand across the top of a fiberglass boat when the surface is dry..................................

This is what I do but its temporary and only good for about 80 to 100 Hours of playing time at the max................................

Use what ever technic and cleaning fluids you want t clean your shafts ,
There are tons of ways and there is always someone in here will disagree with what ever technic that you use.
FOR SOLID MAPLE SHAFTS ONLY , DO NOT USE THESE TECHNICS ON LAMINTED SHAFTS.
I will use denatured alcohol, and if the shaft is really bad and the customer wants the shaft cleaned like new I will use heavy cut polishing (cream ) ( not a rubbing compound ) On a blue paper shop towel to clean the shaft.
Then clean the shaft with denature alcohol to get the polishing cream out of the wood pours of the shaft.
I don't like taking sand paper to the shaft ... if you do the shaft will need to be replace in a few years.

I turn the speed of my lathe to as fast as it will go and use zippo lighter fluid on a blue paper shop towel.
Zippo Lighter fluid will also act like a shaft cleaner, It contains paraffin wax in the lighter fluid , so after the fluid evaporates and or is soaked into the wood the paraffin wax seals the shaft and then you burnish the shaft with a dry blue paper shop towel.

I pretty much friction the fluid in and I will apply about 3 or 4 coats of lighter fluid.
Makes the shaft pretty much shine and then I will apply Mcquiar's synthetic pure polymer car wax.

The syntactic wax's have a higher melting point and a harder surface then any of the 3 known natural wax's ( Carnauba, Bee's and Paraffin.

I also use Renaissances wax on some of the shafts.

PS the lighter fluid doesn't make your shaft smell like lighter fluid, surprising as it is there is not petroleum scent from the Lighter fluid.
The wax is a different story it does carry a scent for a few hours after.
Logic would suggest that Lighter fluid will raise the grain of the wood, well it hasn't happened to me yet.
The denatured alcohol will raise the grain of the wood but if you use the lighter fluid and wax it cant be felt. ( no sanding needed )

So far every customer has really liked the way there shaft felt after using the light fluid / wax job.
 
I've given up on having a permanent good seal on my shafts; instead I do regular seals with Renaissance wax that take about 5 minutes; this also has the effect of cleaning out any blueness that might be left.
Regular cleaning with microfibre cloth is a given, obviously.

Best idea ever: use a glove! It will also protect your shaft.

Cheers!
 
sealer

I have been using a product that Joe Barringer sells. It's not for shafts - it's to seal finish. But I have had good luck with it. It's called Final Step. I love it! I believe the ingredient that makes it work is acrylic.
 
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nfuids said:
You're talking about this kinda wax?
http://www.amazon.ca/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=renaissance+wax+polish
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Yes, that's it. Has been discussed here *A LOT*, too! :smile:

If you don't mind the yellow tint you can also SOAK your shaft in linseed oil. But this needs days to finalize and multiple passes (it reacts with O2).
Fantastic feeling. Did that to my R360.

But I do mind the yellow tint so no linseed for my Universal or Tiger shafts... :sorry:
 
Sand with 400 then 600.
Use Cue Man Shaft cleaner until you cannot remove anymore dirt/chalk.
Sand with 400 then 600.
Apply Fast Dry Cue Man Shaft Sealer and give a minute or so to dry.
Sand with 600 or 1000.
Apply Cue Man Cue Wax and burnish it in on high speed with paper towel.
Hand back to customer and hear them say wow this feels great!
 
mortuarymike-nv said:
I turn the speed of my lathe to as fast as it will go and use zippo lighter fluid on a blue paper shop towel.
Zippo Lighter fluid will also act like a shaft cleaner, It contains paraffin wax in the lighter fluid , so after the fluid evaporates and or is soaked into the wood the paraffin wax seals the shaft and then you burnish the shaft with a dry blue paper shop towel.
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I'm pretty sure there's no paraffin wax in lighter fluid. The seal you're getting is from the leftover petroleum products. Maybe you're thinking of paraffin oil?
 
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