Secret To This Shot........

skins · Sep 1, 2006

Harvywallbanger said:
Hey Skins are you going to be at the DCC this year? What about you Hal? It would be fun if a few of us got together around a table and shot this shot for a while over friendly drinks or something. I will make it dude.

no i won't be there. as a matter of fact it's very rare that i venture anywhere any more i'm just to busy with the cue work. but i'd live to take a rain check on the offer if your ever in the chicagoland or northwest indiana area.

RSB-Refugee · Sep 1, 2006

Bob Jewett said:
I just tried the shot on table 4. Anyone who would like to try the shot gets ten tries on the left cushion or twenty tries on the right cushion. If you happen to be in the area, please drop in.
http://www.shorelinebilliards.com/

Is table 4 badly in need of a good mechanic? If not, why the disparity in the number of chaces from right to left?

Tracy

RSB-Refugee · Sep 1, 2006

Hal said:
My equipment:
Schon cue with Schon shaft and moori medium tip
Measles cue ball
Aramith object ball

That was a very nice shot Hal, I'll give you that, but you have sponsors now?

Tracy

skins · Sep 1, 2006

pharaoh68 said:
That's proof enough for me. Hal's got the shot and the stroke. I'd play it differently becaquse I don't have his stroke but as for whether or not its possible, Hal just proved it is!

hal only proved he made a shot on his table. i'm the one who's woofin' here so as i've stated i know the difference. i'm not taking away that he made "his" shot on "his" table with "his" setup and "his" equipment. they were good shots. just not the shot with the criteria in the original post and i'm still here if anyone want's to try after i set it up but as i stated a few posts ago i don't want any ones money just a chance for some fun or a "miracle". i'm really looking forward to going to the open and meeting a few azer's, converse and have a cocktail or two. :.)

Bob Jewett · Sep 1, 2006

RSB-Refugee said:
Is table 4 badly in need of a good mechanic? If not, why the disparity in the number of chaces from right to left?

Tracy

It's mostly a marketing issue. If the customer has a choice, he feels like he has control of the situation, like offering the "safe eight" or "the break" to someone who can't make two balls in a row.

But seriously, I came closer on the left side, maybe because there is a very slight roll that way. I might lose at 20 shots, but I'd like to see how it's done. I tried for quite a while.

The corner pockets are roughly 4.25 inches and the cloth is a few months old (Simonis 860).

skins · Sep 1, 2006

Bob Jewett said:
It's mostly a marketing issue. If the customer has a choice, he feels like he has control of the situation, like offering the "safe eight" or "the break" to someone who can't make two balls in a row.

But seriously, I came closer on the left side, maybe because there is a very slight roll that way. I might lose at 20 shots, but I'd like to see how it's done. I tried for quite a while.

The corner pockets are roughly 4.25 inches and the cloth is a few months old (Simonis 860).

the trick bob is that there isn't one. on tables like we play on this position shot, like i've always said, is a 99.99% quack. many years ago i saw billy burge "cornbread red" try this similar position on both a slightly shorter shot and slightly longer and really didn't even come that close. we also stood and watched many other top area players try also with similar results. it wasn't until a couple years later that it was described why this position shot is so tough and as i was told virtually impossible on today's equiptment. to produce the amount of backspin at the rate of speed needed to bring the shot off the rail then curve back to the object ball is so hard to do and the only way i've ever seen it come "fairly" close was with a very good masse' shot by a good local trick shot artist. you might get lucky on smaller tables, grass for cloth, tilted out rails, rails that balls don't "seat" frozen correctly, worn "grooved" paths on the rail, a lighter cue ball. huge pocket ect..... but i think most times you might need some form of combination of these. i don't know if i'll ever see it done in my presence in my lifetime but if i do i would love to be the one that had set the shot up. by the way my table is a gold crown lll with 4 1\8 pockets, california cut, and also with 860 i don't even bother trying it on it.

Hal · Sep 1, 2006

td873 · Sep 1, 2006

Hal said:
It was requested that I post links to all 3 videos.

Proof is in the pudding

Very nice Hal. BTW, did you move your table or did you get a new place altogether?

-td

skins · Sep 1, 2006

td873 said:
Proof is in the pudding

Very nice Hal. BTW, did you move your table or did you get a new place altogether?

-td

in the "pudding" is about the only place you might find this proof.

Secret To This Shot........

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RSB-Refugee

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Hal

Daaang!

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