securing a high stakes game

must issue

Johnnyt said:
Bring back the wild west...then we'll see who's boss. Alaska was kind of like that in the 1950's to early 1960's. Everyone had a gun belt on with a Magnum in the holster and/or a rifle when they walked into a bar. I kind of liked it myself. It made for more manners. After all any fight could be your last. Johnnyt
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My state went to a "must issue" stance unless good reason could be shown to not issue a concealed carry permit. People are a whole lot less willing to fly off the handle with strangers when they know it could lead to a shooting situation. Those without guns don't want to get shot, those with guns don't want to do the paperwork!

I have always went with the practice of being very alert and making people wonder if going after me was worth the risk. I was rolled once at the ripe old age of fifteen. Even then one of the guys came out far worse than I did although it took a few weeks. The two dollars or less they got off of me was very expensive.

Hu
 
tucson9ball said:
I would agree about watching out where you play also.
I wil tell ya I am no high stakes player but if I was it would not be on the public internet either. Some things were not meant for public forums.
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Terry, The most dangerous place to make a big score (in my day) was the Cotton Bowling Palace, in Dallas. Charlie Boyd would rob you in the john, or the doorway, after you made a score, and then go sit at the lunch counter and count the money.
This was a COMMON ocurance. The only way to defend against his mentality, was to be in with someone who he KNEW would retaliate. He was a mean MFer but he wasn't stupid.
In todays world, I would think hold-up artists are a little more sophisticated. They know pool player's are a soft target, but if you are in strange territory, I suggest a jelly for the most repected tush-hog in town, and then hope HE doesn't rob you. The smart money will usually find a way to guard against the heist. (most times) :eek:

Dick
 
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when i go anywhere with $$$ I have a under cover guy or 2 with guns. And I dont hold the $$$. I might have 200-300 on me.

I have seen a few BIG games here in Vegas where they put $5000 chips in the safe in the back of the pool room, no body but the owner and a couple guys on the rail ever knew.
 
JCIN said:
uhhhhh......no.

There are many things wrong with that statement. Judges do not convict. Juries do. (Unless you have a bench trial) The use of deadly force even to protect yourself is a hairy subject especially if you are in certain states and do not possess the right licenses. There are plenty of people who have had their lives ruined by doing just what you stated.

But I do agree with the old bumper sticker : Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
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i was in a spot once where a guy coked out attacked me, with a knife. I had a gun-dumb ass brought a knife to a gun fight. I could have shot him,I thought about it, He kicked in the door to my apt, The only reason I didnt pop him was the civil trial, I had just got done watching the civil OJ trial and thought i could beat the criminal beef but the civil trial was a concern and i didnt pop him, I knew him too he was robbing me, he didnt get the $$$ and i didnt shoot him, if i didnt know him I would have easily shot him.
 
SJDinPHX said:
Terry, The most dangerous place to make a big score (in my day) was the Cotton Bowling Palace, in Dallas. Charlie Boyd would rob you in the john, or the doorway, after you made a score, and then go sit at the lunch counter and count the money.
Dick
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SJD,
How would you compare the Cotton Bowling Palace w/ "The Rack" in Detroit?
Also, I never heard of Charlie Boyd, but I'm wondering how he was ever able to do that more than once? If someone didn't have enough "kill" in them to out and out kill him, at least someone could have fixed him up where he couldn't move right ever again.
And if someone was worried about getting caught taking care of him, well, I know they sell ski masks even in Texas! :D

It can be very dangerous to be involved in a robbery. For example...
In the early 1980's, a guy from Pittsburgh named Willie Cutler tried to rob the ValleyView Tavern in Canonsburg. He came in with a single shot H&R .12 gauge shotgun, pointed it at the four guys at the bar and the bar tender and announced he wanted all the money. Two of the four stood up and just as they went to empty their pockets, without saying a word, bum rushed Cutler, who TRIED to turn and skadoodle for the door. He never made it. After beating him, "someone" shot him between the legs with the shotgun he brought inside while he was sprawled out on the floor. The bar tender (who's a friend of mine and still living) called the police and everybody just went back to what they were doing until the police arrived. Cutler lived, and was eventually sentenced to Western Penitentary. But he was "never the same man again", if you get the picture.

There's loads of tough places filled with some very hard men. And sometimes, that's a good thing. :)
 
Terry Ardeno said:
SJD,
How would you compare the Cotton Bowling Palace w/ "The Rack" in Detroit?
Also, I never heard of Charlie Boyd, but I'm wondering how he was ever able to do that more than once? If someone didn't have enough "kill" in them to out and out kill him, at least someone could have fixed him up where he couldn't move right ever again.
And if someone was worried about getting caught taking care of him, well, I know they sell ski masks even in Texas! :D

It can be very dangerous to be involved in a robbery. For example...
In the early 1980's, a guy from Pittsburgh named Willie Cutler tried to rob the ValleyView Tavern in Canonsburg. He came in with a single shot H&R .12 gauge shotgun, pointed it at the four guys at the bar and the bar tender and announced he wanted all the money. Two of the four stood up and just as they went to empty their pockets, without saying a word, bum rushed Cutler, who TRIED to turn and skadoodle for the door. He never made it. After beating him, "someone" shot him between the legs with the shotgun he brought inside while he was sprawled out on the floor. The bar tender (who's a friend of mine and still living) called the police and everybody just went back to what they were doing until the police arrived. Cutler lived, and was eventually sentenced to Western Penitentary. But he was "never the same man again", if you get the picture.

There's loads of tough places filled with some very hard men. And sometimes, that's a good thing. :)
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GREAT POST Terry (as usual).




ps. minor threadjack, while your signature is great in theory, if the athletes weren't pulling in that kinda dough....the (franchise) owners would be the highest paid, so, it still wouldn't be the courageous men and wome you have listed...which is a bummer, but true. Can you imagine if the Yankees had a next to nothing payroll what Steinbrenner would be pulling down :eek: YIKES!
 
another oops

A guy comes into a friend of mines place waving a pistol around and making noise. Seven people were in the room including two ladies. Seven pistols came out. The amazing thing is that nobody shot. The guy realized his error, perhaps due to the " his and her" matched pair of .45ACP's my friend and his wife were holding perhaps not liking the odds of seven to one when everyone had a gun, tucked his away and left without another word.

Hu


Terry Ardeno said:
SJD,
How would you compare the Cotton Bowling Palace w/ "The Rack" in Detroit?
Also, I never heard of Charlie Boyd, but I'm wondering how he was ever able to do that more than once? If someone didn't have enough "kill" in them to out and out kill him, at least someone could have fixed him up where he couldn't move right ever again.
And if someone was worried about getting caught taking care of him, well, I know they sell ski masks even in Texas! :D

It can be very dangerous to be involved in a robbery. For example...
In the early 1980's, a guy from Pittsburgh named Willie Cutler tried to rob the ValleyView Tavern in Canonsburg. He came in with a single shot H&R .12 gauge shotgun, pointed it at the four guys at the bar and the bar tender and announced he wanted all the money. Two of the four stood up and just as they went to empty their pockets, without saying a word, bum rushed Cutler, who TRIED to turn and skadoodle for the door. He never made it. After beating him, "someone" shot him between the legs with the shotgun he brought inside while he was sprawled out on the floor. The bar tender (who's a friend of mine and still living) called the police and everybody just went back to what they were doing until the police arrived. Cutler lived, and was eventually sentenced to Western Penitentary. But he was "never the same man again", if you get the picture.

There's loads of tough places filled with some very hard men. And sometimes, that's a good thing. :)
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