seeking stroke as subconscious action

kildegirl said:
stroking a cue stick straight or crooked does not put balls into pockets. we do not aim cue sticks, we aim cue balls at object balls on every shot, trying to see a dot on an object ball or cue ball is ridiculous.

hal
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Reading words is an important skill, but pretty much useless
if you can't grasp the meaning of the content.

You might want to look up the difference between
'visulazation' and 'seeing'

FYI - there are tons of data that indicate some people
visualize much better than others - I'm going to tap dance
out on a limb here and guess your visualization skills
are sub par - that doesn't make a valid technique any less
valid to those who can do it.

Dale<visualizing success on each and every shot>
 
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kildegirl said:
stroking a cue stick straight or crooked does not put balls into pockets. we do not aim cue sticks, we aim cue balls at object balls on every shot, trying to see a dot on an object ball or cue ball is ridiculous.
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Ridiculous for whom????randyg
 
berlowmj said:
How long does it take to achieve?

Recommendations for facilitating the process?

I recently attempted to move to a higher level by maximizing the distance between the CB & OB & OB & pocket in my drills. The result has been more conscious behavior & a decline in my learning curve.

I have read that the same routine should be followed regardless of the difficulty of the shot.

However, I observe the good players taking minimal preparation on easy shots & more on difficult shots.

I am referring to practice strokes & shifting eye focus between CB & OB with focus on OB as trigger is pulled.

Regressions in my learning curve are a great source of frustration.
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Hah! Again nobody has hit the target yet. Nobody on AZ hardly recogizes this as probably the most important thing you can do. Look at Leonardxxxxx's posts on the CCB forum. He is a great straight pool player who can run 100 balls with from either side.

The real key to getting your stroke to become trusted is to develop a RHYTHM.

After you decide on your fundamentals, then start off by just knocking balls in, and concentrating on rhythm: such as one, two, three, pause, and fire. Maybe your natural rhythm is one, two, three, four, pause, and fire.

Efren's is one, two, three, pause; one, two, pause; fire.

If you don't have a rhythm, and are doing different stuff during the practice strokes, then your left side of the brain is interferring and you will never get there.

Pick a day and practice nothing but rhythm for the entire session - the longer the session the better. Hopefully what you will be engraining in your brain is a consistent pattern to follow for most shots. Rhythm will help you groove a stroke.

Good luck.
 
good session today

whitewolf said:
Hah! Again nobody has hit the target yet. Nobody on AZ hardly recogizes this as probably the most important thing you can do. Look at Leonardxxxxx's posts on the CCB forum. He is a great straight pool player who can run 100 balls with from either side.

The real key to getting your stroke to become trusted is to develop a RHYTHM.

After you decide on your fundamentals, then start off by just knocking balls in, and concentrating on rhythm: such as one, two, three, pause, and fire. Maybe your natural rhythm is one, two, three, four, pause, and fire.

Efren's is one, two, three, pause; one, two, pause; fire.

If you don't have a rhythm, and are doing different stuff during the practice strokes, then your left side of the brain is interferring and you will never get there.

Pick a day and practice nothing but rhythm for the entire session - the longer the session the better. Hopefully what you will be engraining in your brain is a consistent pattern to follow for most shots. Rhythm will help you groove a stroke.

Good luck.
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Thanks to suggestions in this thread & watching only the stroke of the Masters on youtube, I made some fruitful modifications today.

1. I made an effort to trust my stroke & aim.
2. I reduced the speed of my practice strokes & thereby reduced the number & kept it consistent (rhythm?)
3. I kept myself from nervously moving my eyes between CB & OB & consistently aimed, did 3 practice strokes, paused, shifted my eyes from CB to OB, & fired (rhythm?)

I enjoyed a qualitative leap in this session.

Thank you all for your sage & generous advice.
 
Good call, Whitewolf!

Gotta do a short post here:

My two points are irreplacable. Point 1 must be established before point 2 can be taken to heart.

(1) To develop a stroke that you trust, you must develop a rhythm of your own making. However you want to do it, do it the same each stroke. At least as close as possible and when people are shooting a fast game of 9 ball in the local pool hall, that's when they need to remember their in-stroke routine.

After you've mastered this (you never do, it's a lifetime obsession), then it's time for point 2.

(2) This whole concept of taking pool to the next level happens in those six inches between your ears. It's what is going on in those six inches that makes Efren the worldbeater that he truly is!

Yours Very Truly,
The Woim
 
Ok, I didn't read all the replies but here are my 2 cents...

It only takes as long you need to have unwaivering faith in the stroke you have. When you believe your stroke is fine you will stop thinking about it. Do stroke related drills until the result is pure and the hit is what you want. Then take 5, and try to shoot without thinking about your stroke and trust it.
 
Efren Smile

The Woim said:
Gotta do a short post here:

My two points are irreplacable. Point 1 must be established before point 2 can be taken to heart.

(1) To develop a stroke that you trust, you must develop a rhythm of your own making. However you want to do it, do it the same each stroke. At least as close as possible and when people are shooting a fast game of 9 ball in the local pool hall, that's when they need to remember their in-stroke routine.

After you've mastered this (you never do, it's a lifetime obsession), then it's time for point 2.

(2) This whole concept of taking pool to the next level happens in those six inches between your ears. It's what is going on in those six inches that makes Efren the worldbeater that he truly is!

Yours Very Truly,
The Woim
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What is behind that smile? Confidence!
 
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