:thumbup: 100% Agreed
Seriously CSI? Forfeits bring losers back?
- Thread starter Celtic
- Start date
:thumbup: 100% Agreed
Nobody got screwed, nobody made a bad decision, the procedure for a tournament like this was correctly handled.
If anyone took a screwing, it was Ralf for not being able to play. He might have been the favorite going into the final match.
Once again, the proper way to handle this type of event, where the leading player cannot continue, is to let the next highest ranked player take his place.
They made the right call PERIOD.
If anyone took a screwing, it was Ralf for not being able to play. He might have been the favorite going into the final match.
Once again, the proper way to handle this type of event, where the leading player cannot continue, is to let the next highest ranked player take his place.
They made the right call PERIOD.
You madea bad example
In the world championship qualifier everthing was pre-defined. Players earned points in each qualification, they had the qualified players and a ranking after the 3 qualifications for a "waiting list", that's how Chua, Kiamco and Faraon got in the Main Event, because they were topping in the waiting list and there were 3 players forfeit. The system was clear and fair.
Hmm, that sounds like a good example to me. What they wouldn't have done in the World 9-ball tournament is leave a hole in the final bracket. There were no byes because they had a bunch of potential qualifiers to fill the brackets.
This was a smaller tournament obviously, but it would make just as little sense for CSI to cancel half of the semi finals of the final bracket, when they've got ranked qualifiers waiting in the wings.
Except for the little fact that the ranked qualifiers were already knocked out, oops.
BS the player was already knocked out of the tournament. What they did was unfair
and completely out of line. The code of conduct guys, right. The old do what I say, not what I do. lol
Ralf forfeited against Corey Deuel in that instance
yes, I don't understand why Ralf made flight reservations like that. perhaps he didn't know about the times of the matches ahead of time
some people keep bringing up shane was 2nd in he bracket.since Ralf fortified he should play.which i dont think is right ppl look up the word (fortified)..lol .. in realty if i was going to bring in a backup player i would look at who finish 2nd in all brackets combined..that would be who i would have brought in.i dont who that was.does anyone know??
Last edited:
The winner of each group was suppose to advance. The WINNER of each group.
i understand that sir and i agree big ko should have been in the finals.im just asking who was 2nd in the alround groups/games won and lose
Last edited:
There wasn't an all around group though and since they played different players the records can't be compared to determine a clear cut overall second. Not that second mattered anyway.
I probably should not have quoted you because my statement was really directed to everyone. The rules were clear. The winner from each group advances. Once the winners were determined that should have been that and a forfeit is a forfeit.
Last edited:
im just asking if it was a way to figure it out who was the runner up ? might be hard to figure with games played by difference groups dont know
lol, what a ridiculous thing to use as a standard.
I think this is poor on CSI's part. It's unfair on both of the Ko's and looks unprofessional.
takeitdown
Banned
Nobody plays their best in a round robin when they are out of the money. If you advance people based on wins or margins of victory, then deals will be made and dumping will begin.
I ain't no D player son. Stick to what you know best...making 2nd rate tips and homemade chalk. You should be very proud.
I'd like to know why Ralf had to suddenly leave for China and forfeit. He beat Dennis in his first match on Wednesday morning and should have have played in the finals later that day, but all of a sudden he has to go catch a plane. It's hard to believe that he would schedule a flight on the last day of a CSI tournament that he had a good chance of winning - I smell a rat.
"I'd like to know why Ralf had to suddenly leave for China and forfeit. He beat Dennis in his first match on Wednesday morning and should have have played in the finals later that day, but all of a sudden he has to go catch a plane. It's hard to believe that he would schedule a flight on the last day of a CSI tournament that he had a good chance of winning - I smell a rat. " - jmelvin23
I have to agree there is more here than has surfaced - What's the real deal with Ralf? What is being said about catching a plane simply does not add up.
Anyway, this was an invitational not a real tournament. I think this is an important distinction, not that it is justification for what happened, but how seriously can a closed contest be taken?
As far as I'm concerned an Invitational = exhibition.
It's just a show, an exercise in making money through entertainment. It is not a legit sporting contest in my opinion.
Players who participate in these events should be simply paid a flat fee for showing up, and let the show begin.
That's my two cents.
I have to agree there is more here than has surfaced - What's the real deal with Ralf? What is being said about catching a plane simply does not add up.
Anyway, this was an invitational not a real tournament. I think this is an important distinction, not that it is justification for what happened, but how seriously can a closed contest be taken?
As far as I'm concerned an Invitational = exhibition.
It's just a show, an exercise in making money through entertainment. It is not a legit sporting contest in my opinion.
Players who participate in these events should be simply paid a flat fee for showing up, and let the show begin.
That's my two cents.
takeitdown
Banned
Eaxactly. How does this model save pro pool? It doesnt. Makes it into a traveling circus where only the ring masters make money.
They pissed off China and v 75 percent of their paying public. So that's a billion Chinese and 400 hard core pool sweaters. Brilliant.
I can understand Ralf needing to get out of Dodge.
It's like 18-20 hours to Beijing and a 15 hour time zone difference with the Team event starting Monday. There would also be the issue of connections and convenience and cost. He would need to get acclimated to the time change, recover from the long flight, and get practice in on the equipment there. And there could be any other number of reasons why he booked it the way he did. Maybe he just did't feel that he was in top form and would have been out by that time in the tournament anyway. Maybe he felt it was important to get to China in time to make a good showing and not let his teammates down. Who knows.
However, if it was that close he probably shouldn't have been invited in the first place and perhaps CSI would like to look at the issue of player forfeits in the future as in: you do it you don't get invited back.
Lou Figueroa