Shane SVB's playing cue

A good selection of cues.
I noticed your house cue could not perform.
But how do you correct for that cue?

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to be honest upon further review my technique suffered on those last 2 shots its harder than it looks to talk then shoot while filming ... Mad respect to forcefollow and mike page it is harder than it looks. especially in 1 take

but no amount of technique can save that cue... I only keep it around to teach my kids what to avoid LOL
 
I've completely come around to your way of thinking.... especially since I see all the pros come in and take cues off the wall to shoot for the money.
 
*wonders why all the pros don't just use sportcraft jump sticks"

While pros can certainly still play lights out with a stick off the wall, the cue they own is made to their dimensions for a damn good reason. The same reason that the cue that greyghost made for me was made to my dimensions.

I know you've played with a cue that has 70 percent of its weight in the butt. If you think that isn't going to change up your game, you're smoking that good stuff.

No ones going to argue that technique and practice cannot be substituted. But you're trying to say that equipment has nothing to do with the way a player plays. That's kind of silly.
 
what is going on between your ears is 10 times as important as what is sliding through your fingers..

the only ignorance here is thinking that someTHING can improve your technique... truth is only someONE can do that .. and that someone is you

it's like all the bangers who claim $25 chalk will make you miscue less...

realistically bad strokes cause 10,000% more miscues than "bad" chalk

in fact I have never seen a miscue caused by inferior chalk... ever..

there are TONS of reasons for buying cues.. status.. just to be different... feel preferences.. to flip them for a buck....

but they cannot improve your control of your bicep... EVER...

they cannot improve your shot visualization EVER..

They cannot replace practice.. EVER

all the bangers who attribute mystical playing properties to "special" cues can have the lemonade crush and the breaks..

unless you can prove a cue can auto correct from a bad line to a good one it's just hype and hustler BS

and the reason I am saying this is simple... I DON'T SELL CUES



I really don't get you. Did I or anyone else try to dispute your points. I am all for practice but you are claiming that the cue makes no difference at all. In my first post in this tread I said the advantage to having your own cue is consistency.

Dig down farther and you find more though. Why don't snooker players use a pool cue? We have some very basic reasons and the same reasons can be applied to the game of pool and using your own cue vs the cue on the wall.

I get the feeling that you are trying to drive home the point that practice is the only way to improve. I agree with that. A player who has never played using a $1000 custom is not going to get any advantage. But give that same stick to a accomplished player and I promise you he will make more/better shots than he would with a old house cue.
 
Don't know if it is true or not but I believe Allison says her Cuetec is right out of the box and anyone can buy one just like hers.

I've also heard that anyone can buy the cue she plays with. I'm sure she has it customized to her specs (weight, balance point, shaft diameter, etc.), though.

And I've heard the R360 shaft plays pretty good, too.
 
Geez, there is so much hate for cuetec on here. At times, I participated in looking down my nose at them.

A buddy of mine plays with one so I've picked it up & hit some (a lot) of balls with it just to see what all the fuss is about. The reality is...AFTER HITTING BALLS WITH ONE...I don't understand why cuetec deserves such hate. They aren't all that bad.

Cuetec serves a specific role & satisfies a need for cheap, decent playing cues. Not everyone can swing a TS, Bender, Schon, Zinzola.....

Besides, they sponsor some of the best players in the game and sponsor pool on ESPN, so thumbs up from me on that.

Runaway best post in the thread. :thumbup:
 
. But give that same stick to a accomplished player and I promise you he will make more/better shots than he would with a old house cue.

go back and watch the video I posted.. then come explain how a Gina would have made that first stop shot more perfect than my McDermott did.

cues don't make shots players do
 
this is pure hearsay but i heard that shanes cuetech is off the shelf but then he had a couple things done to it like having it altered like someone said to fit his old shaft and at the same time i heard he has been experimenting with i believe a 314.< all pure hearsay> but beyond shane and allison respectably pretty much the top male and female players out there right now...many top amateurs use cuetech also...for anybody who knows her bonnie plowman won all of her canadian championships with what she said is just a $30 cuetech (i know its a cuetech just not sure about the price, she might be full of it lol) in fact she never used anything else until her now ex was given a cue made just for her by schon and she didnt like it so bonnie started using it. like everybody else has said its the player not so much the gear. what does it really matter what the butt is like if the shaft is perfect for you? all you need is a tip you like, and the ability to hit where your aiming right? most of pool from the cues part of it only really matters from the ferrule up as long as the rest of the cue is structurally sound...the rest is up to the player.
 
go back and watch the video I posted.. then come explain how a Gina would have made that first stop shot more perfect than my McDermott did.

cues don't make shots players do



Can you really tell me with a straight face that a house cue with a cracked ferrul and mushroomed tip is going to be able to draw the cue ball with the same accuracy of a well groomed cue?
 
I buy and sell cues for over a decade now and must have gone through hundreds of playing cues myself from production to custom cues and high end custom cues. I've always search for that holy grail of cue and I think I've found 2 cues to date that have met my criteria and will try to pass them down to my sons (If they ever play pool).

As a pool player, we always seem to try to find any edge that will help improve our game but there's nothing more important than confident in our ability to execute. I believe finding the right cue can really help boost your confident and reinforce your skills during play. I've researched into the type of tips that played best for me and have been using it for over 5 years now although I'm always constantly trying new tips on the market to ensure that what I play with is still the best.

My holy grail of cue is a custom cue from Joel Weinstock, 2nd is a Pre-date SW/kersenbrock?? and literally a handful of other top cues that I've played with that are in my top ten list. (Schon, Bender, McDaniel, Pre-date SW, Mcworter, Gus - ivory joint, mike gulyassy 2006 - 1of1, Tascarella conversion, etc). Over the years, I realized there lots of great playing cues in the market and that the cue's playability is subjective to each players experience and playing style. What I believe is my holy grail of cue is probably not someone else cup of tea.

But, I can say with a certainty from my own experience that cue does make a big difference in your game. Funny enough, some cues would play better in one environment vs other.

When you find the right cue you'll know because when you play or gamble, you can literally feel the confident in each shot. If you have had a chance to play with different cues from production to custom you'll know what I mean. Not to say that only expensive cue plays good, I've ran across cheaper cue like "McDermott, Falcon, Schon,etc" that almost play as well as some of the big name cue but you'll have to be lucky and know what you're looking in the cue.

When I gamble or play in tournament, I would play with my Joel Weinstock cue (this cue have taken down a lot of great players include the best in world). The Pre-Date SW/Kersenbrock that I just pick up a few month ago would be used more for gambling....this cue has a long history of used in money game dating back to the early 80's in Chicago. Feel like the cue does have "mystical power" that it acquire over the many battles that it seen through it use and the battle scars on the cue definitely shows it.

Just a week ago at my Friday tournament, I was playing a local player for cheap. In the first 2 sets I lost and I was playing with one of my CM98 full splice sneeky. My sneeky full splice cue plays really good but it was new and I didn't play my speed with it. After losing the 2 sets, I when back home and grabbed my SW/Ker and ended up beating the guy 6 sets.

When I was playing with my SW, the shot just seem easier and my rhythm jelled with the cue, the cue got me in stroke in my first rack..literally. I guess my main point is that there is a always a better playing cue out there for you. If you want to find that edge and confident...find a better playing cue. If you find it, stick with it. I know a player who been playing with his old faithful for well over 30 years. Once you play that long with a cue....the other cues well probably won't matter much as you've decided on your holy grail of cue.

Regards,
Duc.




I really don't get you. Did I or anyone else try to dispute your points. I am all for practice but you are claiming that the cue makes no difference at all. In my first post in this tread I said the advantage to having your own cue is consistency.

Dig down farther and you find more though. Why don't snooker players use a pool cue? We have some very basic reasons and the same reasons can be applied to the game of pool and using your own cue vs the cue on the wall.

I get the feeling that you are trying to drive home the point that practice is the only way to improve. I agree with that. A player who has never played using a $1000 custom is not going to get any advantage. But give that same stick to a accomplished player and I promise you he will make more/better shots than he would with a old house cue.
 
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I buy and sell cues for over a decade now and must have gone through hundreds of playing cues myself from production to custom cues and high end custom cues. I've always search for that holy grail of cue and I think I've found 2 cues to date that have met my criteria and will try to pass them down to my sons (If they ever play pool).

As a pool player, we always seem to try to find any edge that will help improve our game but there's nothing more important than confident in our ability to execute. I believe finding the right cue help really help boost your confident and reinforce our skills during play. I've researched into the type of tips that played best for me and have been using it for over 5 years now although I'm always constantly trying new tips on the market to ensure that what I play with is still the best.

My holy grail of cue is a custom cue from Joel Weinstock, 2nd is a Pre-date SW/kersenbrock?? and literally a handful of other top cues that I've played with that are in my top ten list. (Schon, Bender, McDaniel, Pre-date SW, Mcworter, Gus - ivory joint, mike gulyassy 2006 - 1of1, Tascarella conversion, etc). Over the years, I realized there lots of great playing cues in the market and that the cue's playability is subjective to each players experience and playing style. What I believe is my holy grail of cue is probably not someone else cup of tea.

But, I can say with a certainty from my own experience that cue does make a big difference in your game. Funny enough, some cues would play better in one environment vs other.

When you find the right cue you'll know because when you play or gamble, you can literally feel the confident in each shot. If you have had a chance to play with different cues from production to custom you'll know what I mean. Not to say that only expensive cue plays good, I've ran across cheaper cue like "McDermott, Falcon, Schon,etc" that almost as well as some of the big name cue but you'll have to be lucky and know what you're looking in the cue.

When I gamble or play in tournament, I would play with my Joel Weinstock cue (this cue have taken down a lot of great players include the best in world). The Pre-Date SW/Kersenbrock that I just pick up a few month ago would be used more for gambling....this cue has a long history of used in money game dating dating back to the early 80's in Chicago. Feel like the cue does have "mystical power" that it acquire over the many battles that it seen through it use and the battle scars on the cue definitely shows it.

Just a week ago at my Friday tournament, I was playing a local player for cheap. In the first 2 sets I lost and I was playing with one of my CM98 full splice sneeky. My sneeky full splice cue plays really good but it was new and I didn't play my speed with it. After losing the 2 sets, I when back home and grabbed my SW/Ker and ended up beating the guy 6 sets.

When I was playing with my SW, the shot just seem easier and my rhythm jelled with the cue, the cue got me in stroke in my first rack..literally. I guess my main point is that there is a always a better playing cue out there for you. If you want to find that edge and confident...find a better playing cue. If you find it, stick with it. I know a player who been playing with his old faithful for well over 30 years. Once you play that long with a cue....the other cues well probably won't matter much as you've decided on your holy grail of cue.

Regards,
Duc.



Nice post!
 
Its all a matter of getting used to something regardless of what it is.

Pool cues are instruments used for a precise task and we all get used to our own tools. I liked that guitar reference as I have been playing guitar for almost 15 years. I have 2 electrics and they both cost 2000-3000(I tried them before buying them) brand new. Would I play with el-cheapo 200$ guitar? Never in a hundred years unless it was from a good piece of wood and was well assembled...which never happens with the 200$ price mark. Doesn't always mean the 2K$ guitars are well assembled everytime but it is more often than not.

I always have a tendency to believe that those who say that they can play just as well with a high-deflection shaft or a low deflection shaft is either:

1. They haven't played enough with each one of them to be used to one
2. Their pool knowledge is limited because they can't differentiate the intricacies of a specific tool
 
Don't mean to open the debate about technology v. old school but I'm not sure I understand this point you are making about LD shafts. I get how using less english may translate into making more balls for you but how does an LD shaft allow you to use less english than an old school shaft with an ivory ferrule? I would think the LD shaft, if anything, would allow you to use more english.

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I heard the same thing Chris DLG did, that Shane's Cuetec was pretty much off the rack from the company, or at least, whatever they made for him was going to become available. But my understanding about when he went to Cuetec was that he wasn't playing with a "one-off".

What I meant was with my old Schon shaft hitting a shot needing extreme inside english I may miss that shot 3 out of 5 times. With the LD shaft I get the same result on the cueball but using less inside english. Essentially hitting the same shot with the same results but just using less english...meaning I miss less. I agree with you, I can get crazy english with the LD shaft but I don't really need it on most occasions.
 
Did Earl say Cuetec ruined hi career? Shane seems to be shooting just fine with it.
I would also use Cuetec if they paid me.

SVB probably gets paid just as much from cuetec than he makes in a year in tourney winnings...hed be stupid not to take the money and use that cue.
even though everybody knows they feel horrible. they are still usable.

I will also add that the cue does make the player better and anyone that says it doesnt if full of themselves, everybody knows that when your 100% comfortable and confident in your equipment your gonna play better..... so yes equipment matters. it matters because humans arent mindless machines. say a player plays with a hand me down cutec plays for a year,,,,buys a new cue for 4 or 5 hundred dolllars, and makes the commitment to play for 10 or 20 hrs a week. well a big part of that committment mentally was buying the cue for 5oo dollars. The cue played a big part in the evolution of his pool game

another (generic)example, if i get a shaft retipped say with elkmaster and im used to a lepro its gonna effect my game, or if i get a tip put on with a soft spot in it, its gonna effect my game. Yur playing with a barrowed cue your not familliar with it will effect your game, all because your not comfortable with it.

YES the cue matters
 
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