Shane Van Boening vs. Scottie Sheffler, Over $10,000,000 for Scottie, How much for Shane?

No doubt, every kid that chooses pool does so because that's where the big bucks are and, when reaching pro level, is shocked that they aren't yet living on Park Avenue. in Beverly Hills. or at Hyde Park Corner. Yes, as you suspect, Shane's choice of pool must have been a miscalculation. Or maybe you just don't understand what achievement and success are about.

Money is not the only measure of achievement. Shane just lived a lifelong dream and he's on top of the world. Rather than being sad for him because he's being out-earned by some other athletes like Scheffler or Federer (who made over $90 million in 2021), why not be happy for him. The world is full of elite performers in all walks of life who have less money than we think they deserve. Many of them have had to settle for the respect and admiration of those around them.

Rather than bemoaning his lot in life, be glad for Shane, our new World Pool Champion and a living legend. Don't be sad, be jealous, for Shane has achieved something that awfully few who take pool seriously could dream of in their wildest fantasy.
Beautifully stated. I would imagine the time requirements and commitments are exponentially greater for those with big time corporate sponsors as well. How much of his precious free on the lake would SVB give up for a few million.

"Money is not the only measure of achievement" Truer words have never been spoken.
 
Beautifully stated. I would imagine the time requirements and commitments are exponentially greater for those with big time corporate sponsors as well. How much of his precious free on the lake would SVB give up for a few million.

"Money is not the only measure of achievement" Truer words have never been spoken.


Money is no big deal if you have it, but sure help pay bills for basic things you need in life.

Big dumb smile will not fill gas tank.
 
Money is no big deal if you have it, but sure help pay bills for basic things you need in life.

Big dumb smile will not fill gas tank.
Well said, but the original post was intended to compare the highest achievers across various sports. There's no doubt that money is a more serious matter for those who can't afford life's necessities.
 
Well said, but the original post was intended to compare the highest achievers across various sports. There's no doubt that money is a more serious matter for those who can't afford life's necessities.



Well the sports that pay best are not organized by 6 or 8 different scantioning groups.

Just one like NASCAR, PRCA, NHL, etc.

There is strength in numbers, many group with in a sport only dilute it strength.

If all the people who have little peace of Pool would unite, work together in one direction the Sport would work better.

Could that happen, only is someone can lead the people in forming one group.
 
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No doubt, every kid that chooses pool does so because that's where the big bucks are and, when reaching pro level, is shocked that they aren't yet living on Park Avenue, in Beverly Hills, or at Hyde Park Corner. Yes, as you suspect, Shane's choice of pool must have been a miscalculation. Or maybe you just don't understand what achievement and success are about.

Money is not the only measure of achievement. Shane just lived a lifelong dream and he's on top of the world. Rather than being sad for him because he's being out-earned by some other athletes like Scheffler or Federer (who made over $90 million in 2021), why not be happy for him. The world is full of elite performers in all walks of life who have less money than we think they deserve. Many of them have had to settle for the respect and admiration of those around them.

Rather than bemoaning his lot in life, be glad for Shane, our new World Pool Champion and a living legend. Don't be sad, be jealous, for Shane has achieved something that awfully few who take pool seriously could dream of in their wildest fantasy.
Exactly, well put!
This thread topic is misleading, just like fake news and click bait.
 
Maybe Shane should have practiced golf in South Dakota. Actually this makes me sad. Our pool champions should be paid high sums like the snooker champions in Europe.
Well, I have given up on worrying about the money issues with pool. I personally think what is much more sad concerning this great game/sport is how over many, many years billiards sort of lost it's place as a main event for social gathering for small groups of guys. At one time, almost every mansion built up to post WWII had a dedicated billiard room- everywhere throughout the U.S.

Just about every named country club in the U.S. also had a dedicated billiard room or a billiard table in their grill and bar area. Most major recreational clubs in the U.S. from boys clubs to YMCA, to senior centers, to major clubs like NYC Sports Club, the Union League Club in NYC and everywhere across the U.S. in prestigious meeting organizational clubs- a billiard room was always available.

Billiards is the U.S. was not just what we saw in the Hustler movie and maybe what we experienced in pool halls from the 1960s up until today. Billiards truly was the centerpiece of where men gathered and enjoyed conversation, competition, camaraderie, and everything that goes along with that scenario.

Guess what? Golf and Tennis as well as some offshoots like pickle ball lead the way now. Down here in Naples, Fl. there are THOUSANDS of people spending anywhere from $10K to $50K a SEASON to enjoy golf and everything that goes along with enjoying the game itself- men and women. I know this to be a fact- and $10K a season is on the low end. This scenario is repeated in every major highly desired destination place in America.

THERE IS HARDLY A POOL TABLE TO BE FOUND IN THIS ENTIRE CITY! You have your answer- the reasons for this would fill a book.
 
Well said, but the original post was intended to compare the highest achievers across various sports. There's no doubt that money is a more serious matter for those who can't afford life's necessities.
I grew up with very little money. I wasn’t too happy about that. Great parents but man I just couldn’t fade the old cars, no air conditioning, etc. We were a happy family and made due with what we had I wanted better. So at a very very young age I took it upon myself to fix that problem.

How does pool fit into this? Well I knew people made $ playing pool, the barrier to entry was very low. A poor man’s sport, I wasn’t afraid of betting, sadly I lacked talent. But with some effort and time I was good enough not to ever have to get a job. But shortly thereafter I realized I was capped, I was never going to be a pro(this was in the late 80’a early 90’s when there was some money in pool).

However I also realized I was learning a lot being around pool, how to negotiate a game, avoid a trap, watches guys dumping off their stake horses. I was learning tactics that would serve me well in another area of life and I had the pool “disease” so probably wasted lots of time as well, hell I still do and I don’t play.

What I learned in and around pool did pay off in so many ways. Not just money, but how to navigate life. Some people go to the pool room for 30 years and never learn anything, some learn a lot (that was me). I wouldn’t trade it for anything. Zero regrets. Pool is in me forever. Can’t get it out. Who knows why?

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Fatboy <——-not sure this has anything to do with this thread, I just got on a roll here. Sorry if I derailed anything. Not my intent.
 
It's not that pro pool players are underpaid necessarily, but rather that the athletes in many other sports are grossly overpaid. But that's because of the public's misplaced value on entertainment, in terms of both the time we spend being entertained and degree to which we will spend to relate to our favorite sport, team or star. If advertisers didn't know that the major sporting events deliver big numbers of fans they wouldn't pay the advertising rates commanded by those events and there wouldn't be that huge pool of money to pay the athletes as they do.

This gets into an area of sociological discussion that is too broad and complex for a forum such as this, but I will say this. When a run-of-the-mill guy who runs down a football field is making tens of millions of dollars a year while the national average pay for a guy who runs into a burning building to save lives is $48,701, there is something wrong with our values. Just my opinion, of course.
 
It's not that pro pool players are underpaid necessarily, but rather that the athletes in many other sports are grossly overpaid. But that's because of the public's misplaced value on entertainment, in terms of both the time we spend being entertained and degree to which we will spend to relate to our favorite sport, team or star. If advertisers didn't know that the major sporting events deliver big numbers of fans they wouldn't pay the advertising rates commanded by those events and there wouldn't be that huge pool of money to pay the athletes as they do.
This is a good point, and very thought provoking. Taking other sports out of the equation, SVB made more in 4 days than most police, fire, teachers, etc. make in an entire year. On the surface it seems crazy, but then it also bears mentioning that for those four days, he was THE. BEST. IN. THE. WORLD at his profession.
This gets into an area of sociological discussion that is too broad and complex for a forum such as this, but I will say this. When a run-of-the-mill guy who runs down a football field is making tens of millions of dollars a year while the national average pay for a guy who runs into a burning building to save lives is $48,701, there is something wrong with our values. Just my opinion, of course.
Very few run-of-the-mill guys running down the football field make tens of millions of dollars. Remember those run of the mill guys that get to that point have been training and going through the weeding out process since a very young age. By the time they are making those millions they are the elite of the elite. BUT your point still stands as far as why we choose to pay elite athletes millions to entertain us while the average soldier who we expect to fight and die to protect us makes 44 grand a year.
 
Well the NFL, and MLB both have minimum salaries.

Believe both are over 1/2 Million a Season.

Fans who watch the game pay big buck for a seat.

Corporate advertisers pay big bucks for advertising on TV, and ads in stadiums.

That is part of reason players get paid well.

Even the Old Guys in Senior PGA do well, some are making more then when they played in the PGA.
 
It's not that pro pool players are underpaid necessarily, but rather that the athletes in many other sports are grossly overpaid. But that's because of the public's misplaced value on entertainment, in terms of both the time we spend being entertained and degree to which we will spend to relate to our favorite sport, team or star. If advertisers didn't know that the major sporting events deliver big numbers of fans they wouldn't pay the advertising rates commanded by those events and there wouldn't be that huge pool of money to pay the athletes as they do.

This gets into an area of sociological discussion that is too broad and complex for a forum such as this, but I will say this. When a run-of-the-mill guy who runs down a football field is making tens of millions of dollars a year while the national average pay for a guy who runs into a burning building to save lives is $48,701, there is something wrong with our values. Just my opinion, of course.
Yes, you are correct our values when it comes to reward in certain sports participation vs. reward for other more meaningful work are very screwed up . But that begins way before young people even get to work for a living. How many really dumb athletes get to go to college for free via scholarship and are taken care of in every way while " enrolled" in so called institutes of higher learning- Thousands every year- and how many children of ours who are not superior athletes and don't quite qualify for any type of assistance because their parents are the backbone of middle America get even a crumb from our colleges and universities to help pursue their dream of becoming a model citizen-- ZERO!
 
No doubt, every kid that chooses pool does so because that's where the big bucks are and, when reaching pro level, is shocked that they aren't yet living on Park Avenue, in Beverly Hills, or at Hyde Park Corner. Yes, as you suspect, Shane's choice of pool must have been a miscalculation. Or maybe you just don't understand what achievement and success are about.

Money is not the only measure of achievement. Shane just lived a lifelong dream and he's on top of the world. Rather than being sad for him because he's being out-earned by some other athletes like Scheffler or Federer (who made over $90 million in 2021), why not be happy for him. The world is full of elite performers in all walks of life who have less money than we think they deserve. Many of them have had to settle for the respect and admiration of those around them.

Rather than bemoaning his lot in life, be glad for Shane, our new World Pool Champion and a living legend. Don't be sad, be jealous, for Shane has achieved something that awfully few who take pool seriously could dream of in their wildest fantasy.
Thanks to his wise real estate investments, Shane will have money for the rest of his life, while many highly paid athletes will be broke within five years of retiring!
 
It's not that pro pool players are underpaid necessarily, but rather that the athletes in many other sports are grossly overpaid. But that's because of the public's misplaced value on entertainment, in terms of both the time we spend being entertained and degree to which we will spend to relate to our favorite sport, team or star. If advertisers didn't know that the major sporting events deliver big numbers of fans they wouldn't pay the advertising rates commanded by those events and there wouldn't be that huge pool of money to pay the athletes as they do.

This gets into an area of sociological discussion that is too broad and complex for a forum such as this, but I will say this. When a run-of-the-mill guy who runs down a football field is making tens of millions of dollars a year while the national average pay for a guy who runs into a burning building to save lives is $48,701, there is something wrong with our values. Just my opinion, of course.
Whatever the Players don't make, the owner does.
 
It's not that pro pool players are underpaid necessarily, but rather that the athletes in many other sports are grossly overpaid. But that's because of the public's misplaced value on entertainment, in terms of both the time we spend being entertained and degree to which we will spend to relate to our favorite sport, team or star. If advertisers didn't know that the major sporting events deliver big numbers of fans they wouldn't pay the advertising rates commanded by those events and there wouldn't be that huge pool of money to pay the athletes as they do.

This gets into an area of sociological discussion that is too broad and complex for a forum such as this, but I will say this. When a run-of-the-mill guy who runs down a football field is making tens of millions of dollars a year while the national average pay for a guy who runs into a burning building to save lives is $48,701, there is something wrong with our values. Just my opinion, of course.
Great post. Certainly, the contention that the public overvalues entertainment is less than clear, but you've framed the debate well. That said, there is definitely a tie between entertainment and stress management and the benefit that is brought on by entertainment is, consequently, largely unquantifiable.

Long before the medical profession understood the relationship between stress and good health, a huge amount of money was spent to stage entertaining things for the general public, whether it was the Greek and Roman gladiator fights, the chariot races at the Circus Maximus (that could draw over a quarter of a million fans even 2,000 years ago), or the Shakespearean theater of the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries.

No doubt, the services provided by fire fighters, police, and those who similarly place their lives in danger as they try to preserve our safety are priceless, and those who provide these services are part of our society's backbone.

It's a difficult subject that you've raised, but you've raised it skillfully and with insight. Thanks for sharing your perspectives.
 
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