I interpreted it as whether by one ball or 50 balls, SVB is more than likely winning any long 10 ball race. I think his record is pretty impressive.
Shane vs. Fedor
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I like this kid; he's got that old skool way about him. If I was Shane, I'd be ducking. I couldn't imagine Fedor losing again.Well... he's barking again! Nice
I wonder how much of their own money would be bet in something like this. My guess would be nothing and instead they'd he happy to take a percentage if they won. In that regard, I'm sure they would like to play for $10 million of their backer's money.
it's mars vs sword money.. but of course neither would wanna lose. i think it be wise for shane to duck this one. just a hunch
I'll scroll the facespace later and hopefully confirm! Thanks for the heads up
From memory, only Earl beat him in 10 ball (10' converted snooker table in Ohio), and Alex Pagulayan (9' Diamond). Those were both races to 100.
He lost some shorter races to 21-25 range vs Busty or Archer (I forget which when TAR switched their format towards the end) and Alex Kazakis in Greece.
Edit, one of those race to 21 range sets was def vs Busty when Efren turned off the light switch at DCC. I remember I had a side bet on it.
Tied vs Chang in a race to 120 range in 10 ball.
In 9 ball, Dennis Orcullo finally beat him after losing many times (in 10 ball) in a race to 100 or 120 with a hill-hill score.
Shane has been almost unbeatable in this format since TAR 1 in 2007.
Four games difference after 236 games. You have every right to flip it and go again. You are exactly as hungry and skilled as Shane was at your age. The pool world has many stories of the old lion and the young lion clashing.
Look up the story of the Boy Wonder, Willie Hoppe challenging the literal Old Lion, Andre Vigenreaux, the French champion, in France. That match was international news and the stakes were well over 50,000 with more bets being placed each day. National pride was on the line in addition to what certainly was the equivalent of a million dollars in 2024 money.
You have heart, you have character, and you have the skills to back up any challenge you wish to make. I think you also give back to the community in many ways and want to say that I appreciate you for that.
Next time you could be the one on top by 4 games or you might run the last ten racks.... Or Shane could. Whatever the outcome we will all be fortunate to see two of the most accomplished elite players battling for days. Anyone who watches who doesn't get better as a player isn't really serious about improving.
Most of us will never have the occasion to get in the box for high stakes in an even match for days. That's where heart and stamina come in and we can see who is able to fade the heat and stay focused.
From a fan..... Thank you for being willing to entertain us and give us a view into the type of long form heads-up match we almost never see in other sports.
And the one time that Dennis won Shane had him beat pretty badly and missed one nine ball that allowed Dennis to start coming back. To Dennis' credit be fought hard from that point and could have easily lost.
The only other time Shane lost from being so far ahead was against Alex. Kudos to the players who could come back from such deficits against Shane.
Otherwise, for sure Shane is absolutely the undisputed king of long race heads-up matches.
Any player living likely has an open invitation to try him. None of them want to go into day 3 15-20 games down and bet on themselves from there in my opinion.
I think pretty much the only person who likely has the full record is At Large who maintains a database of stats and usually shows up in threads like this to correct anything inaccurately said.
Here are all of the TAR matches, from 2007 (shane beats corey) to 2014 (shane beats efren). Anything after that would have all been independent promoters.
www.azbilliards.com
The Action Report - Results - AZBILLIARDS.COM
[Taken from the official T.A.R. website] "The Action Report was started in 2007 as a tiny website by Justin Collett and Chad Pollman as a way to talk about the game we love. We both enjoy the side of the game that you won't see on ESPN. That is the side of the game where the best players go head
Chair of shame is such a great line
Hey, quit giving me work to do. https://forums.azbilliards.com/thre...s-record-in-10-ball-challenge-matches.572926/
I am just waiting for you to start publishing year books so I can collect them and have all the stats handy. I would gladly fund a website project for you to fill up.
the 9-ball stats are collected and published on the colostate website dr dave has.
kind of interesting when ppl talk about how BNR's have decreased in later years with tighter pockets. BNR's are actually higher now than when shane won his US opens. iirc.
8-Ball, 9-Ball, and 10-Ball. But only 3 stats per event. https://billiards.colostate.edu/faq/break/stats/