Shane's racking "trick"

[peppersauce]

Ugh! Why do pool rooms do that? They spend anywhere from $1k to $10k or more on a 9 foot table and then buy the cheapest damn rack on the planet.

I am sure there is some really cool trick to getting a tight rack with that cheap, miserable plastic thing they have in a lot of sports bars but I definitely don't know how to do it yet.

BTW, I did order an Accu-Rack recently and that thing does work well. I also have a magic rack at home so I have gone back and forth between them and both get a pretty tight rack every time. Why not just require template racking and move on past some of this nonsense?

Flipping it upside down works sometimes. If racking 9-ball you can also rack with the flat side of the rack facing the kitchen and squeeze the balls from the top down. Sometimes a combination of the two works.

I hate those cheap floppy pieces of crap. If you must use a triangle, the delta 13 is awesome.

 

[SakuJack]

There IS no "trick". Shane just hits the 1 ball at the proper angle and speed much more often than his opponents.

Only not in tournaments with neutral rackers, it seems...

 

[Jaden]

Sorry...

Only not in tournaments with neutral rackers, it seems...

It only works if the balls are frozen... That's what he's making sure to do is freeze all the balls together. I can't tell you how many times when other people are racking for me I don't get the same results as when I rack for myself or they're using the magic rack.

A neutral racker will never take as much care in ensuring the rack is tight as you will yourself.

Jaden

 

[kollegedave]

Tired of Racking Complaints

I do not understand why anyone would get mad at Shane for taking advantage of what everyone KNEW the rules were going to be.

There is nothing to stop other pros from practicing their break and rack just like Shane. Shane opts to include racking and breaking in his practice. Neils elects to make straight pool high runs. It is obvious why Shane wins this event (and other rotation events) to me. Shane thoughtfully considers the rules and procedures related to the the racking and breaking of the balls, and he prepares accordingly.

kollegedave

 

[SakuJack]

It only works if the balls are frozen... That's what he's making sure to do is freeze all the balls together. I can't tell you how many times when other people are racking for me I don't get the same results as when I rack for myself or they're using the magic rack.

A neutral racker will never take as much care in ensuring the rack is tight as you will yourself.

Jaden

I don't buy this. If a neutral racker gives a pro a bad rack (especially in a short race format) that pro is asking for a rerack.

 

[Jaden]

People are throwing around...

I don't buy this. If a neutral racker gives a pro a bad rack (especially in a short race format) that pro is asking for a rerack.

people are throwing around neutral racker, no inspection... Now how exactly are they supposed to ask for a rerack if no inspection is allowed???

There are many rackers that are incapable of providing a tight rack regardless of how many times you ask them to rerack, they just don't know how.

Jaden

 

[peteypooldude]

I don't buy this. If a neutral racker gives a pro a bad rack (especially in a short race format) that pro is asking for a rerack.

It's a fact. That's why you'll see so many re racks and *****ing. Hence.... Rack your own
Shane's trick is called a helluva lot of practice . I watched the finals and he never touched the 1 ball and only his racks were checked . By Dennis and Jay
These accusations are pure horse sh1t

 

[SakuJack]

people are throwing around neutral racker, no inspection... Now how exactly are they supposed to ask for a rerack if no inspection is allowed???

There are many rackers that are incapable of providing a tight rack regardless of how many times you ask them to rerack, they just don't know how.

Jaden

Then no inspection rule is stupid, IMO. I don't agree with people suggesting that.

 

[JB Cases]

Wait! So the only way for me to break like that is tons of hours of practice. Damn! That's no fun. Fine. Anyone have a BreakRak I can borrow? (kidding)

I have to admit I've heard rumors that there is some trick with a gap on the bottom side of the rack but I have yet to find anyone who can demonstrate it in real life. I don't think I ever want to be the kind of player who would use something like that but just like counting cards or any other trick I am curious if it is possible.

If there is such a thing as a racking trick is being angry at a player who gets caught for it any different than being angry with the player in professional sports who gets caught doing steroids or EPO? Sure, it's disappointing but most likely a lot of other players are doing it who just didn't get caught.

Well let's be 1000% clear, Shane didn't get caught either. All this is because Niels made a post accusing him of it in a match Niels wasn't even playing in.

It certainly is possible to rig racks either positively for yourself or negatively for someone else.

Obviously it's a topic that needs to be addressed since Niels and others feel that it's present and prevalent. But the fact is that Shane was NOT caught rigging the rack and all the players were allowed to inspect the racks and request a rerack.

What I still don't understand is WHY they don't use a template rack if they all want a tight rack. I guess players would be ok if the breaker would slug rack himself?

So they don't want the template because it's a perfect rack but then they don't want gaps because those gaps could be an advantage for the breaker.

 

[markgw]

It's a fact. That's why you'll see so many re racks and *****ing. Hence.... Rack your own
Shane's trick is called a helluva lot of practice . I watched the finals and he never touched the 1 ball and only his racks were checked . By Dennis and Jay
These accusations are pure horse sh1t

Eventually everyone is going to have to admit Shane Van Boening is just a great pool player. Calling him a trick racker is just weak and holds no weight at all. This guy is just a dominant player who practices more than everyone. If you're gonna have any chance at beating Shane you're just going to have to practice and compete more. If you do that at least you'll be giving yourself a better chance of winning. Just save your money and don't race him to 100 in 10 ball unless you're hot at your wallet...

 

[Jaden]

There are legitimate reasons to not want a template rack...

Well let's be 1000% clear, Shane didn't get caught either. All this is because Niels made a post accusing him of it in a match Niels wasn't even playing in.

It certainly is possible to rig racks either positively for yourself or negatively for someone else.

Obviously it's a topic that needs to be addressed since Niels and others feel that it's present and prevalent. But the fact is that Shane was NOT caught rigging the rack and all the players were allowed to inspect the racks and request a rerack.

What I still don't understand is WHY they don't use a template rack if they all want a tight rack. I guess players would be ok if the breaker would slug rack himself?

So they don't want the template because it's a perfect rack but then they don't want gaps because those gaps could be an advantage for the breaker.

JB, there are legitimate reasons to not want a template rack. It can interfere with slow rolling balls and change outcomes, if the balls are worn unevenly they don't always mesh up correctly, etc...

I think the positive and the lack of disputes far outweigh the negative, but I don't blame the people that don't agree either.

Jaden

 

[JB Cases]

JB, there are legitimate reasons to not want a template rack. It can interfere with slow rolling balls and change outcomes, if the balls are worn unevenly they don't always mesh up correctly, etc...

I think the positive and the lack of disputes far outweigh the negative, but I don't blame the people that don't agree either.

Jaden

I have played hundreds of games in China using the magic rack and it's truly rare that the rack affects the balls in a negative way. But I see your point and of course if it happened even once in a tournament match it could affect the outcome.

I think that the AccuRack solves the problem of uneven balls by the way it's designed.

 

[BeiberLvr]

Then no inspection rule is stupid, IMO. I don't agree with people suggesting that.

Mark Wilson gave a great suggestion in one of the matches he was commentating on.

Neutral Racker.

Player can inspect, but can't ask for a re-rack.

This speeds up the racking process, and at least allows the player to see if there are any gaps to determine where they break from and at what speed.

In my opinion, if the pros are going to continue having major 9 ball events, this is the way to go.

 

[Poolshootindon]

Blah Blah

JB, there are legitimate reasons to not want a template rack. It can interfere with slow rolling balls and change outcomes, if the balls are worn unevenly they don't always mesh up correctly, etc...

I think the positive and the lack of disputes far outweigh the negative, but I don't blame the people that don't agree either.

Jaden

If Shane is manipulating the rack to his advantage I am sure a qualified ref would spot it, right. Make him rack'em again. And again.

Problem is, it appears to me that no one really knows what he is doing (if he is cheating at all) and they think something is wrong just because he breaks so good.

Lets punish the best for being the best. Years ago (1970's) NASCAR put restrictor plates on different manufacturers engines to make racing more competitive for the other car manufacturers who for some reason were unable to compete with the others.

Rather than improve there engines (slower cars) they just made the faster cars a little slower.