Share your CTE ressources

SpiderWebComm said:
Edge to target visuals aren't fractional alignments.
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Call it what you want - it's a few fixed alignments that cover a small percentage of all shots, just like normal fractions. CTE isn't different because it uses slightly different fractions and disguises the necessary adjustments as "pivots". That just makes it "fractions for deniers".

Don't listen to this guy, he's lost and has been for years.
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One of us has been, for sure.

pj
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Patrick Johnson said:
Call it what you want - it's a few fixed alignments that cover a small percentage of all shots, just like normal fractions. CTE isn't different because it uses slightly different fractions and disguises the necessary adjustments as "pivots". That just makes it "fractions for deniers".


One of us has been, for sure.

pj
chgo
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Ah, now Patrick gets to create new definitions for age-old pool terms just to cover his lack of understanding. For any edge to target visual alignment, the moment the cb/ob distance changes a hair, its a different solution. So, your "fixed visual alignment covering a small % of shots" is categorically wrong and insanely misleading.

The pivot isn't an adjustment, it creates an angled cue to combat the vanishing point illusion that breaks down the flawed 2D geometry that has infected your mind and has you spewing bad information, one post at a time.




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Alright alright kids!

I wanted ressource online I could watch/read.. I'm now convince CTE works good, is it all 100% automatic, of course not, but it is still valuable!

Thanks for your time :)
 
Patrick Johnson said:
So if the alignment isn't the one you need you just move one of the balls?

lol

pj <- but I'm the one who doesn't get it
chgo
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LOL - yeah, that's what you do alright!!

You are the one who doesn't get it. Your below-basic-level of understanding with this material is astounding. The days of me giving a shit enough to engage your MR-level posts in long back-and-forths are loooong gone.

The other more intelligent readers now have enough info to realize they're not shooting fractions nor does a visual equal one (or a few) solutions. In order to shoot fractions, you HAVE to sight down the CENTER of the CB - EVERYONE knows that BUT Patrick Johnson.

Have fun projecting your self-perceived intellectual dominance. You're embarrassing yourself, son. Just wanted to poke in quick to remind you of that quick. Y'all have a good day now, y'hear?
 
nfuids said:
Hi,

Just ordered the 2 DVDs for CTE, but while i wait for them, i looking at CTE video i found on youtube. It does not seem easy to explain to say the least lol.

Playing with the idea for about 10-15 min and i must say i'm surprised, A LOT. Im pocketing shots without even looking at the pocket. Shots than i struggled with!

Anyways, i know i'm still missing a lot as i don't understand the 15/45/60 left/right stuff from Stan on youtube.

Stan, if you read this, could you organize your youtube videos in a playlist in the logical order we should watch them, that would be soooo great?

If you guys have other ressources (website, blog, anything), please share them here!

Thanks!
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Stan has two DVD sets out for CTE. The original one, and the "Final Chapter". If by two DVDs you mean these two sets, you only really need to study the Final Chapter, as it contains the material from the first DVD plus some refinements and a whole lot more shot examples. The first DVD does have shot examples not on Final Chapter. Stan is always helpful, send him an email any time you have questions. Good luck!
 
Mohrt is totally right.

PJ is to be ignored as he is always a negative force where CTE is concerned.

English is a gentleman and correct in saying that CTE is something you must make up your own mind about.

Dedicate yourself and have patience and I think you will continue to be pleasantly surprised.

You have a good idea in having the YouTube info put in sequence.
 
My mind is already made!

Been using CTE for less than a week. Yesterday, I used it almost exclusively and beat an semi-pro on a race to 4. It's only a race to 4, but still, I'm a B+ player.

That being said, it does use feel, as we use our eye to first vision the edge to A/B/C point, I mean if I off at that moment, chances are I'll miss the shot!

Anyways, I dont personnally give a shit about other's thought about CTE, I tried it a little, shooting better, and I just received the DVDs, so I'll work some more on CTE and just get better!
 
I have both CTE Pro and 90/90 DVD's and freely admit I'm not smart enough to understand them just by watching the videos. I hope RandyG is right about the hands on because I should see him next month.

I also wish posters here would realize that people learn by different methods (seeing, hearing, doing, writing, etc) Because of this, different "aiming systems" work for one and not the other. Not that one is right and the other is wrong. There is no Holy Grail, just annoying sniping. Let each other have their say. Lot's of people play just fine with a ghost or fraction too.
 
Buzzard II said:
I have both CTE Pro and 90/90 DVD's and freely admit I'm not smart enough to understand them just by watching the videos. I hope RandyG is right about the hands on because I should see him next month.

I also wish posters here would realize that people learn by different methods (seeing, hearing, doing, writing, etc) Because of this, different "aiming systems" work for one and not the other. Not that one is right and the other is wrong. There is no Holy Grail, just annoying sniping. Let each other have their say. Lot's of people play just fine with a ghost or fraction too.
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Have you seen these short clips on 90/90? Maybe they will help you with it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcY1Y0XYOD0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPo177PNq1Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gkm9WE8HMoE
 
Patrick Johnson said:
Here are the Cliff Notes for CTE:

1. Find the fractional alignment closest to the cut angle you want, then adjust (thicker or thinner) to the actual cut angle.

2. Practice until you can make shots.

3. Post on AzB that it's magic.

pj
chgo
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Said from the perspective of a fidget aimer. To the OP nothing that Patrick says about CTE is correct or relevant to the learning of or actual use of the CTE method of aiming.

Disregard all of it. Pat is an ok player who actually aims by feel by fidgeting his way to the shot line. When he gets down on the shot he does a bunch of mini-adjustments until he feels that he is on the shot line.

He knows nothing of how to use CTE in practice. Despite numerous invitations to get with several good practitioners for some on-table demonstration/instruction/discussion Pat has consistently refused.

So do yourself a favor and ignore this person. His mission is to hold players back rather than to encourage improvement. Despite all that he is a nice guy in person and I like him. On this topic though he is too far gone with a closed mind to be of any use to a player who is interested in really learning it.
 
Buzzard II said:
I have both CTE Pro and 90/90 DVD's and freely admit I'm not smart enough to understand them just by watching the videos. I hope RandyG is right about the hands on because I should see him next month.

I also wish posters here would realize that people learn by different methods (seeing, hearing, doing, writing, etc) Because of this, different "aiming systems" work for one and not the other. Not that one is right and the other is wrong. There is no Holy Grail, just annoying sniping. Let each other have their say. Lot's of people play just fine with a ghost or fraction too.
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I hope by that you mean the "feel" crowd. Because the aiming system crowd is the open minded ones who say try everything with a fair chance and keep what you like.
 
Gerry Williams has some good YouTube videos on CTE where he runs many racks and calls out the visual perceptions for each shot. This will help you to understand what a CTE user should be seeing when looking at various types of shots.
 
JB Cases said:
...nothing that Patrick says about CTE is correct or relevant to the learning of or actual use of the CTE method of aiming.
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You mean it's "aiming from another dimension that was never supposed to be"?

His mission is to hold players back rather than to encourage improvement.
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My "mission" is to point out the anti-instructional nonsense about systems like this spread by you and other system Disciples. I think that might actually help improvement, even if he decides to try CTE.

...he is too far gone with a closed mind to be of any use to a player who is interested in really learning it.
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Unless, of course, the player wants to know what he's learning underneath the nonsense packaging. If he wants to pretend some system can take "feel" out of aiming by "connecting to the geometry of the table" using "3D perceptions" and "rotating edges", that's his choice - I just point it out.

pj
chgo
 
This is share your cte resources thread.
Not bash cte.
The poll at the main forum is also just a poll.
Not a flamefest.
 
JoeyInCali said:
This is share your cte resources thread.
Not bash cte.
The poll at the main forum is also just a poll.
Not a flamefest.
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I agree with you & the OP was not pulled in to CTE by any of the questioned claims so he should certainly be able to go about his experience with out all of the flaming word wars, that is, unless someone tells him something that is not true.

If that happens, then he perhaps should be presented with the other side. I have not seen that to happen... yet.
 
Thanks JB Case, will look into them.

So far, I like CTE. Not perfect, not magic, but very helpful!

Thanks
 
nfuids said:
Thanks JB Case, will look into them.

So far, I like CTE. Not perfect, not magic, but very helpful!

Thanks
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Nope not magic but sure feel like it sometimes. As Hubbard said I think, "any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
 
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