Sharking

bill190

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Sharking

Don't shark. Sharking is "cheating". If you win a match by sharking your opponent, then you did not really win your match. You know you won the match by cheating. You know you did not "really" win. Other players know this as well. It is nothing to be proud of. Following are some common sharks, avoid them!

Anger (Making your opponent angry)
*Wrongly accusing your opponent of cheating; accusations of improper lag, improper coin-flip, improper shot, etc.
*Accusing your opponent of something they did not do or did not intend to do.

Concentration (Disrupting your opponent's concentration)
*Doing anything vocal or making noise while your opponent shoots, is approaching the table to shoot, is studying the table for next shot, or is racking balls for next game. This includes talking to other people during the match.
*Any comments or questions about your opponents playing/shooting good or bad.
*Coaching your opponent. Don't coach other players unless they ask for advice. Unsolicited coaching is a shark.
*Criticizing your opponents game.

Distraction (If what you are doing would distract you while shooting, it probably distracts other players)
*Moving deliberately within the shooter's field of view.
*Standing where opponent needs to be for next shot.
*Waving your hand while your opponent is shooting or about to shoot.
*Standing at the table, especially behind the target pocket.
*Chalking your cue at table when it is your opponents turn to shoot.

Psychological Tactics (Upsetting your opponent or disrupting their confidence)
*Using psychological "tactics" before the match/tournament begins - Negative implications/comments/questions to players you may play in future games.
*Statements, implications, or questions about your opponents missed shots in prior games - Trying to make your opponent think about their poor shooting.
*Statements, implications, or questions about your opponent's losses in prior games - Trying to make your opponent think about the previous game they lost.

If you are doing any of the above, then you may want to work on being a better sport, just like you work on playing a better game. If your opponent makes an unusually good shot, "tap" the butt of your cue on the floor three times. You will find that good sportsmanship and good playing ability go hand-in-hand. Treat other players like you would like to be treated by them. Pool is a competition, the other players want the same opportunity you do to plan and execute shots without interruptions.

If you lose a game and this upsets you, keep in mind that even the best players have their off days and lose games. Sometimes the "roll of the balls" at the break will determine the winner. Even the best player is left helpless with certain situations. (This is where "luck" comes into play. Try a rabbits foot!)

Only one person can win first place in a tournament. Be a good sport and shake hands with your opponent after each match - win or lose. If you don't win the tournament, remember the shots you need to work on and practice them daily. Most importantly, have fun!
 
What can we do about unintentional sharking, like for example loud comments of viewers of a match. Thats happenning all the time, especially on tour when there is a lots of people watching top players? I've been desrupted many times because of that. I think we need to work on our mental game instead.
 
People who fall for that $h!t are weak. Pool is one of a very few sports where your turn is YOUR TURN. Just like ice skating and gymnastics!!

-pigi
 
BAZARUS said:
What can we do about unintentional sharking, like for example loud comments of viewers of a match...

Well I wouldn't call that sharking. Actually when I'm concentrating on a shot, people can say things/ask me questions and I will not hear it. I guess that stuff does not bother me.

What does bother me is when I'm about to play a top rated player in a tournament and the match will determine who will be in the money. Then the top rated player pulls some sharking stunt. They don't need to do this to win since they are such good players. Yet it is the best players who are best at sharking! (Actually I know what they are doing and I play much better when someone pulls this stuff. So it is to their disadvantage.)

I guess I'm disappointed in some of these guys. That they would do these types of things to win. (Not all of them shark, just some...)
 
To continue to improve you must train yourself to block out as much of the distractions as possible, your focus has to be on the shot you are about to execute and the position you wish to land at. Sometimes easier said than done!
 
bill190 said:
Then the top rated player pulls some sharking stunt. They don't need to do this to win since they are such good players.
That is sad. But you are right I have seen it. Fighting over the rack is a common one. Its hard to ignore too.
A casino in town here had a tournament a few months ago, 100 $ added 10 dollar entry. They did not advertise it and I stumbled across it on its second week. At first I though I was in heaven. The rule set was a mess but it was not really a problem unless you missed. These guys were mostly what I call social players. Then I ran into a guy that was sharking with a partner. His buddy would stand behind me every time I took a shot and say things like "never make it" "Stupid Idea". It made me laugh. Here's a guy that is not even good enough to play in the tournament, full of C players, trying to judge my game. I think it backfired cause I dropped into stroke like no other and just ran out after the break (screwed my odds on the side bets though).
Most decent tourneys/leagues have rules against sharking. Ours does, but there is always someone that finds a way to push the envelope.
 
Why are u complaining if it makes u shoot better? If people who read this forum know who you are they'd for sure shark you for saying that, if it really makes u shoot better, then me personally i'd encourage it. The thing about sharking that no one talks about is how prevelant in pool, why is that? Why is pool the only sport on earth where 99.9% of the people who play it view defense as not being a part of the game? If what you say is true, i look at sharking in a similar way, to me it's not doing it that effects me, but the fact that they are doing it. But sharking goes both ways, you have to take control in any/every way you can, sharking will always be part of pool, you just have to learn how to deal with it, as well as using it to you're advantage.
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Psychologically, sharking is a fear-based mechanism used to compensate for lack of ability...the person doing the sharking is afraid he will lose unless he does something extra. Whenever I hear this, I get pumped and know that this person knows I have a better game than he does. Of course, there are those that just shark everyone they play...an obvious sign of low self esteem, and I do my best to prove them right. Bring it on! ;)
 
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bill190 said:
Sharking

Don't shark. Sharking is "cheating". If you win a match by sharking your opponent, then you did not really win your match. You know you won the match by cheating. You know you did not "really" win. Other players know this as well. It is nothing to be proud of. Following are some common sharks, avoid them!

Anger (Making your opponent angry)
*Wrongly accusing your opponent of cheating; accusations of improper lag, improper coin-flip, improper shot, etc.
*Accusing your opponent of something they did not do or did not intend to do.

Concentration (Disrupting your opponent's concentration)
*Doing anything vocal or making noise while your opponent shoots, is approaching the table to shoot, is studying the table for next shot, or is racking balls for next game. This includes talking to other people during the match.
*Any comments or questions about your opponents playing/shooting good or bad.
*Coaching your opponent. Don't coach other players unless they ask for advice. Unsolicited coaching is a shark.
*Criticizing your opponents game.

Distraction (If what you are doing would distract you while shooting, it probably distracts other players)
*Moving deliberately within the shooter's field of view.
*Standing where opponent needs to be for next shot.
*Waving your hand while your opponent is shooting or about to shoot.
*Standing at the table, especially behind the target pocket.
*Chalking your cue at table when it is your opponents turn to shoot.

Psychological Tactics (Upsetting your opponent or disrupting their confidence)
*Using psychological "tactics" before the match/tournament begins - Negative implications/comments/questions to players you may play in future games.
*Statements, implications, or questions about your opponents missed shots in prior games - Trying to make your opponent think about their poor shooting.
*Statements, implications, or questions about your opponent's losses in prior games - Trying to make your opponent think about the previous game they lost.

You lifted that from Earl Strickland's 'How to Play Pool' book! :rolleyes:
 
Sandbagging

Don't give me the **** about just having learned how to shoot pool. I'm a chiropractor and just by examining your biomechanics I'll detect within a few shots your billiard stroke.

And, I'm 50 years old and still a virgin. Yeah right.
 
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jer9ball said:
You can cry about the sharks, or you can rip-em a new hole. Take their money.
Exactly. I play this guy who just talks and talks. The other day he challenged me to a game, and he was true to form. He actually told a friend of mine who was sitting at my table that he does it because he knows it "messes with my game" LOL. I just laughed. I told him he was the only guy I knew who shot pool with his mouth. My buddy was laughing his ass off as I ran out.

After I took his money the first game, he wanted to up the bet. I said "let's see the money". (I knew he didn't have it, he wanted to play, and "owe me" if he lost) He got pissed and left. The funny thing is this guy hasn't beaten me in over a year, but he still wants to play. Fine with me, his money is green...
 
Colin Colenso said:
You lifted that from Earl Strickland's 'How to Play Pool' book! :rolleyes:
I guess we should consider the post "satire" then. Earl saying "don't shark" is like Michael Moore saying "don't lie". :p

-CM
 
I have a guy at my poolhall who does it all, I can hardly take a shot either playing against him (which I don't anymore) or playing someone else without him being a factor. Other patrons have noticed his behavior also, I have mentioned it to staff but they shrug it off like I'm crazy. I can't say that the noise or action bothers me or that I constantly have to get up again and reapproach my shot but the fact it's just plain ignorant and you shouldn't have to be a serious player to understand this. The reason IMO that a proprietor should take some responsibilty is to ensure that thier customers enjoy themselves and don't get to the point of leaving or taking matters into thier own hands.
Sorry to be so long winded but some TD's and referee's can do better, I saw one of the ring games from the derby and it was driving me crazy when Scott Smith (?) was making anoucements on the PA while guys were shooting.
 
highsea said:
I guess we should consider the post "satire" then. Earl saying "don't shark" is like Michael Moore saying "don't lie". :p

-CM
Well I meant that he took the 'what to do' advice from Earl, and titled it with 'What not to do'.

btw: Michael Moore doesn't lie.... Wow, my nose just grew an inch :D
 
i came up playing tourny's in the bars in Montana, distraction overload there. having to wait for people to walk by before you can shoot, asking people to move all the time. Drunks yelling at the T.V. or my favorite....bar fights. I have learned ( because i had to ) to block out everything when i play. If you need work on overcoming distractions then i recommend playing in a few tourny's in a Montana bar...LOL
 
Not everything is sharking . . .

bill190 said:
Sharking

Don't shark. !

Some of the things u mention are sharking. Others are just life.

In every competitive event, even in a chess game, people use psychological tactics. Imagine a poker game without some woofing going on.

Strengthen your inner self to overcome these little things.

Snoozy
 
2004 is the first time I have gone to the Derby City Classic in Kentucky. I watched about half dozen big money matches over a 3 day period. I have to tell you around every money game people were shouting, tossing wagers, walking by players while they were shooting and clanking beer bottles as they tossed them in the trash cans or kicked them over and bar maids walking around taking orders. Not a once did anyone of those players even get distracted by all of that noise (visual or otherwise). Most of the people in the pool room I play in cry like little babies. I tell them to make it a point to go to the DCC and see REAL pool being played, it is fantastic. When you are focused on playing and I think most of you out there can agree, unless someone bumps into you, you really never get distracted by other things around you. The only time I have ever been distracted is when things are absolutely quite and someone shouts something. I would rather play with noise in the background than in slience but thats just me.
 
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