Shims

[Tennesseejoe]

So, am I correct in assuming my new Diamond Professional will have pocket facings but no shims? I am getting the 4.75" corner pockets instead of the 4.5" pockets. Which means the rail rubber will be cut 1/4" less and then the facing goes over the rubber cushion.

And didn't shims years ago used to be sort of a charcoal type substance? And if so, is that what they use nowadays?

If you are buying a new table, it is much easier to buy tight pockets and make them bigger if needed. Much more work and cost to make large pockets smaller CORRECTLY. The question you need to ask yourself...is this a leisure time table or are you trying to become a pro...or something in the middle. If the pockets are too tight, you and your friends will not enjoy it.

 

[SBC]

Question regarding shims.

Do all tables have shims? Or do some tables just have the rubber cushions and the cloth goes over it?

In other words if you order a table - Olhausen, Brunswick, Diamond, etc - will it come with shims? Or just the rubber, whether it be Accu-Fast, SuperSpeed, or Artemis? And how does the plain rubber behave compared to shims?

And yes, I know if you want the pockets made smaller at some point the mechanic will use shims.

r/DCP

Facings son....facings.

Shims level.a table.

If you are ordering a new table....you should have specified the pocket size you wanted. Stacking facings makes pockets play dead, more balls hanging up and if a ball hits into the end of a side pocket facing it stops it about dead.

 

[fastone371]

Question regarding shims.

Do all tables have shims? Or do some tables just have the rubber cushions and the cloth goes over it?

In other words if you order a table - Olhausen, Brunswick, Diamond, etc - will it come with shims? Or just the rubber, whether it be Accu-Fast, SuperSpeed, or Artemis? And how does the plain rubber behave compared to shims?

And yes, I know if you want the pockets made smaller at some point the mechanic will use shims.

r/DCP

Shims are just pocket facings that are thicker or stacked to change pocket dimensions. So yes, all tables have "shims" but when shims are not used to change pocket dimensions they become "facings".

 

[garczar]

Everyone used to call them shims for decades.

shims are what's added to reduce size. tomato/to-mah-to.

 

[Logandgriff]

Nice work. Mind boggling after 40 years they haven't fixed their pocket angles.

I had my Olhausen modified to add 3/16 shims with 60 durometer hardness and it greatly reduced all rattles and also the pocket size a bit. I do think that there is a reason Olhausen sticks with its geometry, although it would be very nice to hear from them about this. I think it may be that, because of the springy nature of the Accu-Fast cushions, the 145 degree angle helps catch and pocket balls that would otherwise be missed. However it's all confusing because putting the shims on my table made it better.

Pool table physicists and Olhausen employees are encouraged to explain.

 

[DrCue'sProtege]

I'll ask again - those shims/facings that are used to make pockets smaller - what are they typically made of?

In the past I had a reputable table mechanic tell me they were made out of charcoal.

 

[bbb]

I'll ask again - those shims/facings that are used to make pockets smaller - what are they typically made of?

In the past I had a reputable table mechanic tell me they were made out of charcoal.

Do you know how to do a google search?

 

[DrCue'sProtege]

Do you know how to do a google search?

Affirmative.

And what is wrong with asking here?

Rather than attacking me perhaps you should have answered the question. If you didn't know you could have looked it up on Yahoo or Google.

 

[u12armresl]

Tell you what garczar. Once my Diamond Professional is delivered I want you to call Aaron at Diamond and ask him how our transaction went down. Find out first hand if I was a pain in the a$$ or a nut case. Then let the Forum know.

Deal?

I have talked to enough people to know you are a pain and difficult, when you post some batty stuff here, you turn around and pretend it is tongue and cheek, but it is you doing what you always do. I've done more and forgotten more about pool than you will know, and I post videos of me playing, not too hard to do.

 

[Logandgriff]

I'll ask again - those shims/facings that are used to make pockets smaller - what are they typically made of?

In the past I had a reputable table mechanic tell me they were made out

 

[bbb]

Affirmative.

And what is wrong with asking here?

Rather than attacking me perhaps you should have answered the question. If you didn't know you could have looked it up on Yahoo or Google.

I did not attack you
You just like to be spoon fed
I have found
If a person does alittle work for an answer they tend to remember it better

 

[Logandgriff]

Mine are 3/16” neoprene 60 durometer hardness.

 

[iusedtoberich]

They are typically neoprene rubber with a 60 Shore A durometer. It’s a commodity material, dirt cheap, available at every industrial supply house.

 

[DrCue'sProtege]

Anybody have any idea why a reputable table mechanic would have told me Charcoal?

Perhaps that was what was used years ago?

 

[garczar]

Anybody have any idea why a reputable table mechanic would have told me Charcoal?

Perhaps that was what was used years ago?

WTF???? are u high or what?? charcoal?????????????????????? your trolling is beyond lame.

 

[iusedtoberich]

DCP, you need chatgpt for all the questions you have:

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