Shooting harder to improve accuracy - how many of you do it?

fastone371 said:
Kinda, I guess.



Thats not a picture of you I hope, I was not trying to be offensive. :eek::eek::eek::confused::confused:
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Lmao no that’s a star trek character Geordi La Forge

Went blind and he had those scanner glasses things

Lol I figured you were talking about earl as we know he has no shame when it comes to wearing gadgets


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I think I'm probably pocket speed + 10-15% most of the time, occasionally resort to pocket speed only depending on the table and shape requirements, and I've gone full bore, guns at the ready, try to break the back of the pockets speed more times then I care to admit.

Honestly, when I do that, I'll hit center pocket a lot, don't miss a whole lot of balls that are makeable, but I also lose my ball control. It typically happens for me when I'm frustrated or pissed off at something or someone.

I think it simply takes my mind, any doubt, any over thought process out of the equation and just lets my eyes and muscle memory take over. However, the success is typically very short lived because I know I'm not playing my best pool and that starts to creep back into my game.
 
lfigueroa said:
Mosconi was quite accomplished on the 5x10's and didn't do so bad on the 6'x12's.

He didn't have much familiarity with snooker, but with just two months practice at McGirr's, he took on a 17 day, six city match against Rex Williams, seven time world snooker champ, in the $20,000 "Black Velvet Challenge" sponsored by Smirnoff. They played alternate matches consisting of three games of snooker and one game of 14.1.

Mosconi won all the 14.1 matches and seven of the 18 snooker games to win the match 179-66 1/2. He said he was watching Williams and learning along the way and started winning more snooker games as the match went on. He also said that it was easier for him to adjust to snooker, with its 15 reds and just a few balls of rotation, than for Williams to adjust to the long runs required in straight pool. The size of the table and the pockets didn't seem to be much of a factor.

Lou Figueroa
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Exactly right. Mosconi could win any game. It amazes me how some folks assume a great straight pool player would make a lousy 9ball player. Lol. If you play straights well, odds are you'd play all games well.
 
Push&Pool said:
Thank you for all the replies. It seems blasting the CB allows less room for error during my stroke comparing to a slower shot. I may be unintentionally twisting my wrist when shooting at pocket speed if I'm not focused. It may also be that going for power boosts my confidence and makes me calmer. And finally, when hitting the OB at warp speed, if I miss the intended pocket it still has to go somewhere :D
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Your main issue is not knowing how to play properly, you really need to find some good players to learn from and forget about all that making up your own pool terms and ways of playing. I always tell my son, half the games you lose are because of stubbornness and nothing else. If you shoot a shot that missed 3 other times the same way on the same table, shooting it a 4th time the same way is stupid and stubborn. You will not force the game and the table to act the way you want it to, random spraying of shots are a great way to lose to anyone that knows how to play.

Similar to all the flat earth idiots, they want to throw away everything humans learned because it's "old information" "unoriginal thoughts", etc.. and make up their own crap. There is already a hundred years or knowledge and experience behind every cue/ball/table/player, why make up new stuff that is no better and is actually much worse?
 
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I'll tell you a story. Back in the dim, dark ages, we had an in-house league in the room where I played. We played with four man teams, playing so many weeks of Straight Pool, 9 ball, and 8 ball. There was a guy on one of the teams that didn't play very well at all. His favorite game was 9 ball, trying to shoot hard and ride the 9 every shot. One night during the 9 ball portion of the league play he beat a guy considered to be an A or maybe an A+ The better player was so mad he quit the league that night. The weaker player was very proud of himself BUT.......the moral of the story is that this was the ONLY MATCH THE GUY WON OVER THE ENTIRE SESSION, NOT JUST THE 9 BALL BUT ALL THE GAME SESSIONS. It was handicapped, too, by the way. This is what just hitting the cue ball hard all the time can get you.
 
hang-the-9 said:
Before you go any further, read this https://issuu.com/poolkillers81/docs/a_beginner_s_guide_to_8_ball_pool

This is what we are dealing with here as far as concepts of how to play.

The basic philosophy is that anything that is in pool now, including what equipment is called is "bad for players" and that hitting hard and relying on luck is the way to go.

This does actually have a bit of a truth in it, you have more accuracy with a firmer hit vs trying to hit a shot soft in several circumstances. I have seen way too many people do things with their stroke trying to hold up a ball instead of going a few rails for shape, like hit so soft they don't even get a rail contact and foul, or try to do some odd stroke and curve the cueball because they were not accurate with the hit. There is a difference between Hard and Firm though, too many players mistake hitting hard for a nice firm strike.
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That’s the ready or not here I come stroke

A player bunting and breaking the stroke to provide a slower hit will pay the other guy every time.

That’s a large issue with players up to the advanced stage. Brake checking for speed control. Causes erratic action in the delivery. Fishtails, jerks,hesitations, in accurate hits and angles to delivery etc.


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