Shot Clock Good for Pool?

[ramdadingdong]

I thought you said your were leaving, never to return because you hate us ignorant savages??? I guess you love us more than you thought

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I challenge you to post where I ever called you or any one else ignorant savages, try not to mis quote me sir, please. I love you apa7 even though you don't love me. Keep slapping me in the face all you want to sir, I shall just keep turning the other cheek to you.

All I know now, Is I don't know nothing.

Rama...

 

[ramdadingdong]

I thought you said your were leaving, never to return because you hate us ignorant savages??? I guess you love us more than you thought

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Some never really go away, they are always around. Even when they are passed on they still remain.

Why do you steal this guys name and identity and post lies about him on rsb, why do you stalk the guy? Why can't you just let it ride, live and let live? Move on, get a life.

All wars must come to an end one day, even yours...

Just friendly advice my friend from me, ah what the hell do I know, I know nothing, I am just a blind squirrel in search of a nut, nothing but a ding dong.

Rama...

 

[Bob Jewett]

... Other than maintaining the status quo, the two most popular choices seem to be:
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Another choice is to use a different kind of shot clock. Chess-style would give a fixed total for a match. There is also the style they've used in Europe that gives some number of seconds credit for each shot taken, which would be better for games such as one pocket, or any game with a lot of safety play. It allows you to use as much of your "time bank" as you want on complicated shots.

 

[ramdadingdong]

Another choice is to use a different kind of shot clock. Chess-style would give a fixed total for a match. There is also the style they've used in Europe that gives some number of seconds credit for each shot taken, which would be better for games such as one pocket, or any game with a lot of safety play. It allows you to use as much of your "time bank" as you want on complicated shots.

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Exactly, most of my shots I perform very fast, but now and then you do not know what to do and studying the lay out for 2 minutes is requried. In golf you are measured by your keeping pace with the field. If 16 tables are at 10 games played and your table has played 5, then a clock should be enforced to kick you in the ass. In golf, if the entire field begins to bog down, they go after the guys out front and work back down the pack giving warnings, pick it up now. If my table is even with the rest of the field and I then study a shot for 2 minutes, so what, I should be entitled to do that without the threat of a foul hanging and ticking over my head which will do nothing good for my concentration.

One more problem, men play faster than women and that needs to be recognized also. When the women played next to the men years ago, the men were always finished far ahead of the women. They play faster, better and with less safeties. The women need more time than the men, that's a fact of life.

Rama, just a ding dong in search of a nut. All I now know, is I know nothing.



Rama...

 

[sjm]

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Exactly, most of my shots I perform very fast, but now and then you do not know what to do and studying the lay out for 2 minutes is requried. In golf you are measured by your keeping pace with the field. If 16 tables are at 10 games played and your table has played 5, then a clock should be enforced to kick you in the ass. In golf, if the entire field begins to bog down, they go after the guys out front and work back down the pack giving warnings, pick it up now. If my table is even with the rest of the field and I then study a shot for 2 minutes, so what, I should be entitled to do that without the threat of a foul hanging and ticking over my head which will do nothing good for my concentration.

One more problem, men play faster than women and that needs to be recognized also. When the women played next to the men years ago, the men were always finished far ahead of the women. They play faster, better and with less safeties. The women need more time than the men, that's a fact of life.

Rama, just a ding dong in search of a nut. All I now know, is I know nothing.



Rama...

Right on, Ramda. I like Bob's idea of a chess-like clock, too, provided it gives you a healthy chunk of time in which to shoot your shots.

Also, I think your point about women playing more slowly is important, and I agree they need a little more time on the shot clock than men. As you say, it's partly because their skills are less refined than men, but I think it's also, in part, because they don't break the balls as well.

The men, on average, break about 25% harder than the women on the radar gun (perhaps, 24 mph vs 18 mph, typically). Quite obviously, this reduces the number of break-and-run racks. Not as obviously, though, it means that the balls aren't spread as well and are more likely to be clustered, which leads to more safety play (as you've noted). I strongly believe that if the men broke at 18 mph, they would have to play many more safeties than they do now.

 

[sjm]

Need to correct my last post. Said that if men break at 24 mph and women at 18 mph, men break 25% harder. Should have said 33% harder.

Still, my point that it is part of why there is less safety play in men's pool stands.

 

[cueball1950]

Hey APA

Sure sounds like Fast Liar Guninger

although i don't like fl or talk to fl his story sounds pretty accurate to me. i live less than 15 miles from where Frank Taberski lived and played(Schenectady NY) although i never had the opportunity to see him play, the elders around here have and they all tell the same story. Frank would put you to sleep with his slow play. And the faster his opponent played, the slower he played. Thus the shot clock was introduced. And this is the truth on the origin of the shot clock........................................mike