Should Corey's Soft Break Be Legal?

bud green

bud green

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After all the fuss about Corey's soft break this last year, I was curious if people here agreed with the change in rules to stop him using the soft break.

Earl's opinion don't count, he breaks hard so of course he wants it changed. He jumped better than almost everyone in the world for years and years so of course he hated the jump cue, too.

Personally I don't like changing the rules to stop a break that has been legal for years. As long as you make a ball or drive four to a rail, it should be legal.
 
The easiest solution to end all of the controversy about the 9-ball rack is to simply add another ball. 10 ball rotation is where its at.
 
You know what, if it is alternate break, then they can also go soft if they want right? I can't see them making a rule that says you have to break x-MPH or it won't count. They already have rules governing the amount of balls that have to reach a rail and or pocket on the break.
 
Scottster said:
The easiest solution to end all of the controversy about the 9-ball rack is to simply add another ball. 10 ball rotation is where its at.
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Corey has a soft break for 10 ball also that he used very effectively for a runner up placing at the Predator Open last month. He made the 1 in the side and played shape for the 2 in the corner (or a bank shot on the 2 in the corner...worked very effectively)
 
It should not be illegal. Nine ball is a game that rewards good breaking, and if he found a way to break the balls that works for him, why should it be stopped? No one says to guys like Archer or Bustamante, who hit the balls massively hard, that they should be forced to hit them softer. When it's his turn at the table he should be able to hit the balls any way he wants.

A similar thing happened years ago when guys started breaking from the side rail (I think Archer may have been the one who started this, or if not he was definately the one who perfected it). Next thing you know, pro tournaments suddenly had a 'break box' to prevent it. In most sports innovative guys get rewarded. In pool they get punished. I don't get it.

Playing ten ball is a solution, so is playing longer matches.
 
Hi Shane,
Personally, making the one in the side is more difficult than making one of the dead wing balls in 9-ball, if a player can consistantly make the one in the side he should be rewarded.

The rack manipulation of the 9-ball rack has taken away from rotation pool. It has become a rack knowedge game more than anything. I believe that 10-ball is now the better rotation game. Yes there will still be rack controversy, but the consistant dead ball(s) are eliminated.

Since top level/knowledgable players know about the 9-ball rack, the games are full of non-stop bickering and takes away from the "gentleman" aspect of the game.

Have a great day,
 
Scottster said:
Hi Shane,
Personally, making the one in the side is more difficult than making one of the dead wing balls in 9-ball, if a player can consistantly make the one in the side he should be rewarded.

The rack manipulation of the 9-ball rack has taken away from rotation pool. It has become a rack knowedge game more than anything. I believe that 10-ball is now the better rotation game. Yes there will still be rack controversy, but the consistant dead ball(s) are eliminated.

Since top level/knowledgable players know about the 9-ball rack, the games are full of non-stop bickering and takes away from the "gentleman" aspect of the game.

Have a great day,
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I agree. I also think that 10 ball is a better game than 9 ball for many reasons. I say, let them play 10 ball and let them break how they want and may the best/smartest breaker win!
 
Definitely switch to ten ball! With the UPA events being changed to ten ball and the IPT being eight ball this whole soft break thing won't be much of an issue anymore.
 
bud green said:
After all the fuss about Corey's soft break this last year, I was curious if people here agreed with the change in rules to stop him using the soft break.

Earl's opinion don't count, he breaks hard so of course he wants it changed. He jumped better than almost everyone in the world for years and years so of course he hated the jump cue, too.

Personally I don't like changing the rules to stop a break that has been legal for years. As long as you make a ball or drive four to a rail, it should be legal.
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Damn straight it should be allowed. The game is about winning, not pleasing an audience. The only purpose banning the soft break serves is to ensure the gallery gets to hear and see racks exploding because it's more exciting(supposedly).
 
A legal break requires either 4 balls to get to a rail, or to pocket a ball. The soft break that meets these requirements should be legal. If it works for him, so be it. If the other players don't like it, maybe they should take some breaking lessons from him.
Steve
 
pooltchr said:
A legal break requires either 4 balls to get to a rail, or to pocket a ball. The soft break that meets these requirements should be legal. If it works for him, so be it. If the other players don't like it, maybe they should take some breaking lessons from him.
Steve
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Steve,

Only problem is that the rules keep getting changed, at the UPA Predator Open the rule was that 4 balls must pass the side pocket. Corey was called on this 4 or 5 times in his match against Orcollo and had to give up ball in hand and STILL won! Go figure :)
 
Yes.

Changing the well established rules of the game in order to inhibit one person's success is silly.

Going to ten ball across the board to increase the level of difficulty for everyone is a better route to take.
 
shanesinnott said:
... Only problem is that the rules keep getting changed, at the UPA Predator Open the rule was that 4 balls must pass the side pocket. Corey was called on this 4 or 5 times in his match against Orcollo and had to give up ball in hand and STILL won! Go figure :)
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I figure that Corey plays pretty well and is a lot smarter than the other players when it comes to thinking about how to win. I also think an idiot was in charge of the rules.

They should switch to 10 ball.
 
pooltchr said:
A legal break requires either 4 balls to get to a rail, or to pocket a ball. The soft break that meets these requirements should be legal. If it works for him, so be it. If the other players don't like it, maybe they should take some breaking lessons from him.
Steve
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Agreed and leave the rules alone.
 
I understand what people are saying about switching to 10 ball but think of this for a second how can a governing body just make a type of break illeagal just because it WORKS, if they do ban the soft break then what happens to the people of short stature who are maybe not muscular in their upper body to smash the rack therefore they may not be able to drive 4 balls past the middle pocket?.

Will they get penalised?, quite frankly I think it is ridiculous because pool is supposed to be for everyone but by doing this you are limiting the game to the hard hitters only such as the Bustamantes, Archers and Reye's of this world.
 
rules should be changed when an unfair advantage is held by one or a few.an advantage that is unattainable by most.thats whay there are salary caps,to try and level out the playing field.

a soft break is attainable for any player.

as long as it meets the requirements it should be legal.

watching coreys soft 7 break against souquet made me wonder if ralf went home and practiced it.

it was brilliant.

i like big corey.
 
9 ball said:
I understand what people are saying about switching to 10 ball but think of this for a second how can a governing body just make a type of break illeagal just because it WORKS, if they do ban the soft break then what happens to the people of short stature who are maybe not muscular in their upper body to smash the rack therefore they may not be able to drive 4 balls past the middle pocket?.

Will they get penalised?, quite frankly I think it is ridiculous because pool is supposed to be for everyone but by doing this you are limiting the game to the hard hitters only such as the Bustamantes, Archers and Reye's of this world.
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Archer is a freaking bean pole, and still generates decent speed.
 
Can someone post the specifics of how Corey breaks em soft and what he is striving to achieve?
 
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