Shoulder problems
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SC......I have had the same problem but with both shoulders. I had the cortisone shots several times until they just were not working anymore. The only alternative i had after the injections was to have done what the Doctor called an Acromia plasty with a distal clavacle resectioning. In layman terms they had to go in and fix the socket. then the Dr had to cut the end of the clavicle so that i could raise my arm straight up upver my head from the side. Until then i could not even lift my arm to level shoulder length from the side since the arm bone was sitting so far in the socket Now i can use both arms anyway i want. But one has to be careful not to rush the therapy and recovery time...hope this gives you some insight...............mike
It gets worse after I play some long sessions (5 to 6 hours) of 9 ball with one of my good friends and the next morning my shoulder is pretty sore. I found a product called Bio freeze gel that has helped more than anything i've tried yet and I was hoping that someone on this forum might have some good ideas or suggestions to help with my problem.Barbara said:
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Have you tried those hot patches yet. I have a friend that uses them and swears by them. Maybe try advil or something along that line might help.......................mike
There can be several causes for your pain. I'm not sure how old you are, but in most cases, the shoulder pain is a simple "impingement syndrome" due to the rotator cuff muscles being pinched under the bone (acromion) when you lift your arm to shoulder level or higher. In some individuals, bone spurs may be tightening the bony canal even more (typically in those age > 40). Conservative treatment will solve most of these problems (with the exception of the spurs). You have tried an injection, which is a start, but you also need physical therapy aimed at strengthing the rotator cuff muscles. Without that, I doubt you will see long-lasting relief. I would not consider any surgery (acromioplasty) until you have undergone several months of therapy without relief. Get a prescription from your doc. You may have to change you body mechanics or reduce the number of hours you are playing because that can definitely exacerbate your symptoms. Good luck.
SCCues said:
It's impossible to make accurate suggestions without knowing exactly the nature of the injury, sometimes physical therapy will fix it, and sometimes surgery may be required.
I have a pretty bad right shoulder, mostly from playing tennis, but sometimes it effects my pool playing, especially 9-ball -because of the hard breaks. Developing a soft break is not a bad idea.
I turned a torn rotator cuff into a bearable annoyance by daily stretching and excercising with gradually increasing dumbell weight and alternating icing and heating the area after strenuous use.
It's really a pain in the ////, shoulder!
SCCues said:
I had a similar problem, I quit playing for awhile and the pain went away. I realized something during play caused the pain. I found my weight off balance and by that I tensed my bridge hand which transferred the problem to my shoulder, hummmmmmmm I thought. I corrected my balance/stance and the pain went away and I started playing allot better after that. Your issue could be completely different, but if you quit and the pain goes away think about what I said. Hope this helps, plus its allot cheaper than getting a doctor visit and then recreating you problem once you start playing again. Hope this could help, if not, see the doc.
mnsneakypete said:
.SCCUES.....I have to totally agree with the above recommendations. I also tried about 8 months of Physical therapy along with moisture therapy and hydro therapy. ... I even tried accupuncture for a couple of months. Only after i exhausted all of these efforts did i resort to surgery. So please get together with a good Doctor of Physical Medicine and start some weekly therapy......good luck also...And tell Ridge i said HI...............mike
Per-co-cet...now say it fast.
Kills pain like magic.
Kills pain like magic.
Varney Cues said:Per-co-cet...now say it fast.
Kills pain like magic.
never mind...deleted........lololol...........mike
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Ask your therapist or whoever knows about this problem you have, but perhaps stretching before and after playing might help. I had a back injury while in the USArmy, and I still have back pain to this day. I stretch every day before I do anything, especially play pool. I do all kinds of stretches, including shoulder stretches and arm stretches. Helps me loosen up and I warm up faster. Sometimes if I don't eat healthy, my arms can't loosen up regardless when I play, they seem to get tighter and tighter. That's when I play my absoloute worst.
I suffered from this for about two years, I went to a doctor and nothing. Kept me from playing golf and long sessions of pool were painful.
What worked for me was a physical therapist. I have a great one here. Literally I went to see her and went golfing three days later wtih no pain.
I don't know where you're located, but I'd be happy to ask her if she has a colleague in your area. In my experience, it's very important to have a good one, so ask around.
pm me if you want me to see if I can find a referral near you from her.
Cheers,
RC
What worked for me was a physical therapist. I have a great one here. Literally I went to see her and went golfing three days later wtih no pain.
I don't know where you're located, but I'd be happy to ask her if she has a colleague in your area. In my experience, it's very important to have a good one, so ask around.
pm me if you want me to see if I can find a referral near you from her.
Cheers,
RC
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Your first step is to see a specialist in sports medicine. Make surgery a last resort, unless you are really disabled & have tried everything else.You might also want to get a small book entitled The Ten Minute Rotor Cuff Solution. There are 4 tiny muscles in the shoulder, which are not strengthened by ordinary exercises. In fact, as the large muscles such as the deltoids, triceps, & pecs grow stronger you put an increasingly disproportionate load on these muscles. The 10 minute routine in the book specifically strengthens & stretchs these muscles. Even if they are not the problem, the routine is also prophylactic so you can't lose.
I started playing pool, when I resigned myself to the fact that seriously competitive powerlifting was destructive & I still required a sport in which I could go all out without hurting myself. The rotor cuff solution does work & as I said it is also prophylactic so you have nothing to lose.
You might also try glucosamine-chondroiten which treats & prevents arthritis. You can get it over the counter at places like GNC. Do not touch it if you are allergic to shell fish or stop if you have a reaction to it. It takes a few months before you feel results, so be patient.
Now I am addicted to pool for which there seems to be no solution.
I started playing pool, when I resigned myself to the fact that seriously competitive powerlifting was destructive & I still required a sport in which I could go all out without hurting myself. The rotor cuff solution does work & as I said it is also prophylactic so you have nothing to lose.
You might also try glucosamine-chondroiten which treats & prevents arthritis. You can get it over the counter at places like GNC. Do not touch it if you are allergic to shell fish or stop if you have a reaction to it. It takes a few months before you feel results, so be patient.
Now I am addicted to pool for which there seems to be no solution.
Welcome to the club
I have been through pt {physical therapy] on bothshoulders. One fixed the problem, the other i am still working on. It boils down to one simple thing: is there an anatomical problem/injury. If there is you WILL need sugery to fix. Pt will help the pain, will make it 'better' but will not fix it. I have a bursities [sp] in the left. PT isnt going to fix that. Non-steroid medication will aleviate the pain, and probably if you took it every day you wouldnt feel any pain at all....but they are known to be VERY hard on your heart and liver..not good long term. IF you have what i have, inflamtion form over use..i golf a lot...then the shot should help, if that doesnt fix it then i would opt for surgery. But keep in mind that surgery might only involve a scope and cleaning out the fluid in the joint. Not a big deal..sore for about a week then back at it. HIH
I have been through pt {physical therapy] on bothshoulders. One fixed the problem, the other i am still working on. It boils down to one simple thing: is there an anatomical problem/injury. If there is you WILL need sugery to fix. Pt will help the pain, will make it 'better' but will not fix it. I have a bursities [sp] in the left. PT isnt going to fix that. Non-steroid medication will aleviate the pain, and probably if you took it every day you wouldnt feel any pain at all....but they are known to be VERY hard on your heart and liver..not good long term. IF you have what i have, inflamtion form over use..i golf a lot...then the shot should help, if that doesnt fix it then i would opt for surgery. But keep in mind that surgery might only involve a scope and cleaning out the fluid in the joint. Not a big deal..sore for about a week then back at it. HIH
Dyna-Flex Powerball. Prolotherapy.SCCues said:
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I think i've said this before in some other thread but nevermind. One of the best sports to both strenghten and stretching your whole body is swimming. It's also safe for those injured areas since you have the support from water.