Shuld I cut This Up?????

lenoxmjs

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Just purchased an ebony 26 1/2 Titlist cue. Nice almost perfectly straight. Label is about 90%. Was thinking of having it converted. I don't really know but have read that only about 1% of these cues were ebony. What do you guys think?
 
You got the one that was on ebay this morning. Didn't you? Lucky stiff.
Anyway, I don't know percentages but I do know that ebony titlists are very rare. If it were me, I'd have an ivory joint put in and I'd add a hoppe ring to the butt but I'd leave it wrapless. I'd probably have it done by Mike Capone too because the gloss to his finish will really make that ebony look beautiful!

But, that's just my opinion!
 
lenoxmjs said:
Just purchased an ebony 26 1/2 Titlist cue. Nice almost perfectly straight. Label is about 90%. Was thinking of having it converted. I don't really know but have read that only about 1% of these cues were ebony. What do you guys think?

Is this the one? If so, you should ask the guy to officially end the auction. If not, then these are more plentiful than we thought :). But be careful, I asked him about it when the auction started and got a very cryptic response.

In any case, I would not convert it - it is too nice. Be patient and wait for another ebony 1-piece in beat-up condition, and pay a lot less. It only has to be straight up through where the joint will be, and the points can be a little messed up, since the cuemaker will be taking the forearm down some anyway.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7222062292
 
I WOULD NOT CONVERT IT .i don't know what it is with some sellers they want to sell things and then are very vague with answers. if you go to sell something be prepared for people to ask questions about it.
 
I would ...

convert it, and would have the dark tan color phenolic joint and rings put in,
with (I don't know what they are called, thin on each side of ring) in gold
on each side of the rings with nowrap.
 
If you don't convert it you have a warped one piece cue....If you plan on playing with it and enjoying what diffence does it make what it might be worth...unless you spent too much and can't justify hacking it up....
 
Snapshot9 said:
convert it, and would have the dark tan color phenolic joint and rings put in,
with (I don't know what they are called, thin on each side of ring) in gold
on each side of the rings with nowrap.
I like Scott's idea - minimal damage to the cue and you get a player. It looks like you should also be able to save the label. Now I wish I had made the guy an offer :(

I was thinking total conversion with wrap, etc., which I would NOT do to this cue.
 
lenoxmjs said:
Just purchased an ebony 26 1/2 Titlist cue. Nice almost perfectly straight. Label is about 90%. Was thinking of having it converted. I don't really know but have read that only about 1% of these cues were ebony. What do you guys think?

No, definitely not. This is an antique collectible in rare condition. I would look for another cue to convert.

Chris
 
TATE said:
No, definitely not. This is an antique collectible in rare condition. I would look for another cue to convert.

Chris
Chris, this is the dilemna. I once picked up a beautiful Hoppe 1-piece for conversion, but when I got it I found out that it was an early 1940's in excellent condition. Because of the rarity I decided I couldn't destroy a piece of history by chopping it...but I'm not a cue collector! So I found an old beat-up one that I felt no guilt over cutting up, and it's now a beautiful 2-piece conversion....and I have this historical 'thing' leaning against a wall collecting dust because I don't want to destroy something of historical value.

I considered doing something similar to what Scott suggested, making a 2-piece with a "minimalist" joint, and just polishing up the wood and saving the label.
 
runscott said:
Chris, this is the dilemna. I once picked up a beautiful Hoppe 1-piece for conversion, but when I got it I found out that it was an early 1940's in excellent condition. Because of the rarity I decided I couldn't destroy a piece of history by chopping it...but I'm not a cue collector! So I found an old beat-up one that I felt no guilt over cutting up, and it's now a beautiful 2-piece conversion....and I have this historical 'thing' leaning against a wall collecting dust because I don't want to destroy something of historical value.

I considered doing something similar to what Scott suggested, making a 2-piece with a "minimalist" joint, and just polishing up the wood and saving the label.

I kind of like the minimalist idea but with an ivory joint. Phenolic linen on a 75 year old cue would be out of place (I'm talking about the 26 1/2 now).

Believe me, I know it's tempting, but these original cues are becoming rarer and rarer. I saved two of the original unturned Titlist full length blanks from being converted, just to be able to show everyone what they looked like before they were turned:

http://www.palmercollector.com/Titlist.html

I have plenty of conversions, I don't need another. I want to see what these cue looked like original 50 - 100 years ago.

If someone does a conversion, I would like to see the decals and stampings preserved and materials used that would be true to the time period.

I thought that Schick 26 1/2 wedge conversion was absolutely killer that Bogey had.

Chris
 
Thanks for all the input. I guess that I will wait and see exactly how nice this cue really is. It is the cue from E-bay. I spoke to the owner on the phone for about 20 min and he wasn't going to sell it to anyone that was going to do a conversion. He also stated that he had a guy in Singapore that was willing to pay substantially more than I was. Titilist Sucker Would be my guess. I stated that I had intentions of cutting the cue and thanked him for his time. That was 3 or 4 days ago. This morning he called me at work and took my offer. I guess we'll see when it gets here. Of interest also is the fact he stated that he had several purple heart titilists and at least 50 regular ones. He promised to E-mail pictures of the better stuff and I will post them as soon as I recieve them .
 
lenoxmjs said:
Thanks for all the input. I guess that I will wait and see exactly how nice this cue really is. It is the cue from E-bay. I spoke to the owner on the phone for about 20 min and he wasn't going to sell it to anyone that was going to do a conversion. He also stated that he had a guy in Singapore that was willing to pay substantially more than I was. Titilist Sucker Would be my guess. I stated that I had intentions of cutting the cue and thanked him for his time. That was 3 or 4 days ago. This morning he called me at work and took my offer. I guess we'll see when it gets here. Of interest also is the fact he stated that he had several purple heart titilists and at least 50 regular ones. He promised to E-mail pictures of the better stuff and I will post them as soon as I recieve them .

If it is in as good of shape as it looks then I would not do the conversion no matter how much money you offered to pay me.
 
I was going to buy the cue but changed my mind. I guess I have enough Brunswicks (for now...) It defintely looks like a special cue.

Bear in mind this thing has survived intact for about 80 years now.

You're the new keeper of the faith and protector of the innocent. Responsibility is a big responsibility. Use it wisely.

Chris
 
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Since I'm probably going to cut it. Mostly because the best way to enjoy the cue is by playing with it. I would like to hear peoples recomendation on who should do the deed and why.
 
You know at the IPT qualifier there were some guys from europe that had 1 piece cue case. Now if these guys can travel over seas with them. I thin going to the pool room is an option. People may give you a strange look walking in a pool room with one, but the looks might change when you open the case. Just a thought to play it both ways.

Mike
 
I talked to him months ago and he said he would do an inventory of his Titlist's and send pics and secription and prices, never heard back from him................ his name is Brian if my memory serves me? For some reson Brian sticks in my head, but then again LOTs of stuff is stuck in MY brain
 
lenoxmjs said:
Since I'm probably going to cut it. Mostly because the best way to enjoy the cue is by playing with it. I would like to hear peoples recomendation on who should do the deed and why.
If you are going to play with it, definitely small ivory or phenolic, 3/8x10 pin. I would do ivory unless you are a '1-cue person' and plan to break with it also. Rauenzahn does all of my conversions (see c-1900 snooker in signature below for joint example).
 
lenoxmjs said:
one bump!!!!
Progress? I'm curious because I'm facing a similar dilemna with a 26 1/2 Purpleheart - decided to restore and possibly convert later. Anyone know what type of ferrule/tip these likely came with?
 
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