Sigel's 150 and out

part 2 of 2

part 2 of 2, crane 150 and out over Balsis:


When you keep just bumping the rack and sliding off of it making safes as JB and IC were doing, eventually you move balls around and a shot opens up. Crane saw a very complex shot in the rack and it was wired tight. It was the same exact great mystery out of the rack shot Gleason shot in the Hustler movie. Crane walks up and coolly calls 2 in the corner out of the rack, everyone in the crowd scratches their head, and nobody can see any shot. The score now is JB 11 to IC ZIP. Bang, Irving goes into the stack and the 2 ball comes back at him out of the stack and pots and the joint goes wild. The rack opened beautifully and the great run began. Rack after rack falls to his perfect stroke and mechanics. He is in a nice flow and playing like in his prime in the 30's.

After that great shot was shown in the 6l movie, and then Crane makes the same shot on national TV, that shot became a standard show shot of the entire great trick shot shooters of that era. I finally convinced Gerni to drop that one from his show when we were on the road in the mid 90’s saying Paul, the kids watching your show have not see the Hustler movie, they have never played straight pool, they don’t have a clue what you are doing. They don’t react to the shot because they do not understand the shot. You had to be a real straight pool player to see it, to understand how and why it worked. It was tough for Paul to realize and accept, we are getting older and the game has changed. It’s a 4 or 5 ball combo where you shoot forward and the ball comes out backwards out of the rack and pots.

Crane breaks the rack at 140, l hr and 2 minutes into the run and then pots the lst ball, easy shot and goes brain dead and just lets whitey take off. The cue ball runs up to the side pocket and stops on the edge. Crane slams down his cue and grabs his hair in despair when he see's what he just did, blew the 150 and out and the damn cue ball is diving into the side pocket. How in the world could I have done anything that stupid he is berating him self mentally.
The God of pool blows a soft breeze to stop the ball that is supposed to scratch giving Irving a new life. He see's it stop and stares there frozen in fear and it stops and hangs in the pocket. So many big runs end because of a player loses their concentration as he just did and then miss a simple shot or he does something dumb like scratch. Sigel told me the only reason nobody ever ran a thousand is nobody can hold this intense concentration more than a hour, rarely more than two. Eventually your mind just cracks, it flips a circuit breaker before you blow the main fuse and melt down the main cables. When it feels you are about to overload the circuits, the mind simply shuts you down, turns everything off. You can see players who have been hit with this just stand there and stare, they can’t move or react, they are frozen in their tracks because there is nothing going on mentally, everything is now turned off, they have zero input.

Mosconi tried to beat cranes high run of 309 and when Willie got on 309 he went blind and choked on 310. In Willies defense he later recovered from that disaster and set the high run of 365 that was never topped on the 5x10' table. There have been a lot of good players that ran 148 or149 and choked and blew the out and lost. You can play perfect and get to that place and become paralyzed, unable to think or perform, I know, I’ve been there, done that, and most of you have as well. The opponent comes up runs 75, plays safe, you have no shot, then he runs 75 and out on you. You want to go out into the parking lot and shoot your self in the head with your rod. Not in the foot, between the eyes. You don’t feel like you should be able to live after that. It can and does gut a player where he’s never any good after that or it can take a year to recover from such a disaster.

Irving was very aware of what he had done. The meat man was very capable of putting a 138 and out back on him. Irving drinks water, and then realizes he has left him self a very tough and miss able cut. He makes it, and then realizes he did escape. The shot is 142-11, he drinks water, begins to sweat, pulls out his hankie and begins to mop his brow, the guy I am telling you almost fainted over the scratch, it was funny to watch. He had a cow. He damn near fell over in fear.
He quickly composed himself at once and went to work putting this puppy away fast. At 147 he wades into the final stack, the crowd reacts and claps seeing he is out now for sure, IC see's the same thing. 149 falls, the crowd really reacts, 150, game, the crowd explodes and leaps to their feet with a standing room ovation. 150 and out, one hour, 4:4l minutes, final score, Irving Crane 150, Joe Balsis, 11. The players in that era always played in a sport coat, the audience always showed up in their Sunday best suit and ties.

Do acquire this tape and walk back down memory lane 38 years ago. Cranes greatest matches and runs were never recorded on film. If you want to see what this great champion looked like and how he played, you must acquire this tape.

Any body who can't find a source to acquire this tape at, send me a check for $20 to P.O. BOX 956130, Duluth, Ga, 30095 and I will dub you the match and add on the Sigel 150 and out on the end of it as well, the two greatest straight pool runs of all time that were caught on tape. If this order is out of the US, add the air postage needed to your order to air mail it to you in the check, or go to my web site www.fastlarrypool and pay for it via pay pal which takes any credit card and email me a note telling me about your order at fastlarry@bellsouth.net.
Leaning to play straight pool just makes you a better 8 ball player. You then learn how to wade into clusters and move around a bad table so you can get out.
:D :cool: :p
 
King Cueball said:
I said that a post ago fast, What is your high run?

274 straight, 9 racks of 8 and 9 ball, 75 rotation, centrury snooker 6x12, 10 at 3-cushion, 3 racks of cribbage. Break and run 15 with out missing on 9' table in 33.95 sec, run 3 racks of straight with out letting a cue ball touch a rail. I have done a lot of stuff you just will not and cannot believe, I understand this. :D
 
King Cueball said:
Was that a knock on me fast?

knock on you, hell no, I don't even know you, tell me what I said that went off bad, it was not intended to knock any body, it is obviously being mis understood. Enlighten me please sir.
 
King Cueball said:
My Mistake then. I must have misunderstood you, my mistake


Apparently, the written word is so dangerous, you can read stuff into it you would never get from just talking to somebody. I would do nothing to offend you, you have done nothing to offend me, we are at peace with each other.

May God bless and peace be with you. May the wind be always on your back and all 9 balls fall. VENI VIDI VICI, OMNIA VINCIT AMOR. Latin for “I came, I saw, I conquered, love conquerors all.
“Fast Larry” Guninger
 
Thanks Larry for that monumental answer. I have always admired those 14.1-players from the past. It's hard to compare them to modern players because of different equipment etc. but it's always nice to hear stories about them.

Take care.
 
Larry- That was a great story. I read the wimpy, Fats, Red book recently and your post brought us back to the same times. Do you have a book in the works? Dennis
 
Yes Mike can do it . I dont know if you are aware but straight pool still lives over her on the east coast especially in the Maryland area . You will find abouve average shooters in the game over here compared to other states . I grew up in Maryland and I have lived and traveled all around the US . One thing I can say is if you have an interest as a child here you will be learning straight .Thats what all the old timers shot (guess Im becoming one of them also) but straight was the way to go . Now you may find we have alot of one pocket here now but if you push for a game and have the cash for straight pool here you are bound to find a few players that can match them stats and then some .Mikes always been a great shot but he was never affraid to take a woopin in straight pool from the old timers as the rest of us were and Ill tell you what . It seemd to have payed off .Mike can do more than run 150 balls I can tell you that for a fact .Mouth off to him for a while and I think he would be capible of comeing close to a record . He was not to proud to be labeled as one of the best 9 ball players there was (before he won the 100k his first real biggie) and then go loose to an old timer in a race to 200 in a couple local poolrooms.That class made him what he is .He always seemed to play under extreme pressure well expecially when he has some one egging him on .The fact is you cannot get a better foundation in pool than straight .I really do think anyone other than people that really saw him without the camera and the glitz can really say they have seen Mike shoot .You watch that man in a lockdown and you will be so stunned you will look like your in a day dream. When he hit the Big 9 ball games it was only 9 balls.
 
Man I grew up watching Danny Diliberto play some fine straight pool action. He would always bet high and have running straight pool games. Keeping his focus for hours. Too bad not too many people know how beautiful and demanding the game is. Im glad John Schmidt and Alex P are playing it.
 
dmgwalsh said:
Larry- That was a great story. I read the wimpy, Fats, Red book recently and your post brought us back to the same times. Do you have a book in the works? Dennis


Oh yes I do, its one third written and I am looking for a publisher, but it is not on stories, it is on how to play in the zone, ooops, that was a secret. :D
 
Straight is great. When I was a kid(I'm 52 now) that's what me and my brother and friends played mostly. I was born in Rockford, Illinois where Dallas West was the local legend.

Anyway I quit playing for many years and just got a table a little less than a year ago. Joined a league that plays 8 ball. Finally found a guy to shoot straight with. he came over last Sunday. He's better than me, loves straight, has all the tapes you guys mentioned. I hope to keep playing him and get better at it. I've been excited about it ever since he said he'd come over and play. He said he had quit for a few years, but he looked pretty good. He ran off 20 on me to win the second game. Not much, by you guys standards, but gotta start somewhere.
 
dmgwalsh said:
Straight is great. When I was a kid(I'm 52 now) that's what me and my brother and friends played mostly. I was born in Rockford, Illinois where Dallas West was the local legend.

Anyway I quit playing for many years and just got a table a little less than a year ago. Joined a league that plays 8 ball. Finally found a guy to shoot straight with. he came over last Sunday. He's better than me, loves straight, has all the tapes you guys mentioned. I hope to keep playing him and get better at it. I've been excited about it ever since he said he'd come over and play. He said he had quit for a few years, but he looked pretty good. He ran off 20 on me to win the second game. Not much, by you guys standards, but gotta start somewhere.


Fast replies, you would have won a lot of tournaments if you just ran 18 every time you came to the table. Don't get hung up on these 150 and outs, there were very rare. Any time you run 3 racks, 45 and up, that is a fine accomplishement for any good club player. A pro the bar moves up, that is 75, a century is excellent. A lot of people ran in the 200's including me. Hitting 300 was what really seperated the bozos from the legands and greats, few every hit that 300 number, but all the greats got there. Same on 400, that was a very small club, count them on 2 hands and still have a couple of fingers left over. 500 half a hand, 600 half a hand, maybe 2 or 3.
 
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