Bob,Do you mean the right side of the object ball or the right side of the tape on the ball? I think the right side of the ball is to the right of the tape a little.
Yes the object ball, forget the tape.
Bob,Do you mean the right side of the object ball or the right side of the tape on the ball? I think the right side of the ball is to the right of the tape a little.
Sending the center of the cue ball towards the edge of the object ball is called a "half ball hit". Is that what you mean?Bob,
Yes the object ball, forget the tape.
All these extraneous things that people try to throw in to the mix make something pretty simple overly complex....Here is how it is shown in Willie Mosconi's book.
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Considering when this was published -- 1965 -- the clarity of the illustration is amazing. Clearly parallel lines, Color coded lines. ex-ghost ball marked. This is the book I learned how to play from, mostly.
I cant help but visualize where the cue ball will be when it strikes the OB when looking at that picture.View attachment 762816
Take a look at the diagram above.
Get rid of the parallel lines & the line between the cueball and object ball.
For demonstration purposes keep the stripe on the object ball.
Now line up the middle of the cueball with the right hand outside edge of that stripe.
Ball will go in the hole, no need for ghost ball.
OK, here's the solid red line shifted to the right edge of the OB - congratulations, your CB contact point (parallel dashed red line) only misses the correct OB contact point (parallel dashed yellow line) by 3/4" or so now.You are on the wrong line with your red line PJ
So do you suppose this is the same thing you did the very first time that you picked up a cue? I have a hard time believing that when someone starts playing that they enter the game with an aiming "system", rather it seems they would make a mental note of where the cue ball needs to be when it contacts the object ball to pocket the object ball.I aim the center of the CB a learned distance from the OB contact point (= ghost ball center) without actually visualizing a ghost ball.
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lolSo do you suppose this is the same thing you did the very first time that you picked up a cue?
Forget billiard terminolgy for a minute Bob.Sending the center of the cue ball towards the edge of the object ball is called a "half ball hit". Is that what you mean?
well, it's a billiard forum, and that's a half ball hitForget billiard terminolgy for a minute Bob.
Aim the center of that CB through the far right hand side of the object ball on that cut angle setup.
Glad that's working for you...Forget billiard terminolgy for a minute Bob.
Aim the center of that CB through the far right hand side of the object ball on that cut angle setup.
Try explaining that to someone who can't aim.well, it's a billiard forum, and that's a half ball hit
If you aim on that far outside yellow line, the left hand side of the CB will hit the right hand side of the OB and dump it into the short rail.OK, here's the solid red line shifted to the right edge of the OB - congratulations, your CB contact point (parallel dashed red line) only misses the correct OB contact point (parallel dashed yellow line) by 3/4" or so now.
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You don't have a clue what I am doing,Glad that's working for you...
...but you're definitely not doing what you think you're doing - except maybe on nearly straight shots.
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My advice is keep doing whatever you're doing and don't worry about the geometry - it isn't your cup o' tea and might only distract you.You don't have a clue what I am doing
Did either you or Bob take what I am saying to a table and give it a try?My advice is keep doing whatever you're doing and don't worry about the geometry - it isn't your cup o' tea and might only distract you.
Good luck.
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I suppose you could master landing on half ball hits to the closest pockets - oh, and safeties from anywhere for when you don't.Shot one on the left will go all day long finding center of the CB & pointing the tip at the index card.
Shot two will also go all day long with pointing the left edge of the CB at the index card.
WTF do I know, gee I'm a tree isn't my cup of tea.
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The object ball's distance to a pocket is absolutely irrelevant.I suppose you could master landing on half ball hits to the closest pockets - oh, and safeties from anywhere for when you don't.
There's more throw from a distance. The total error factor always amplifies over distance.The object ball's distance to a pocket is absolutely irrelevant.
I'm talking in terms of a near perfect center CB strike.There's more throw from a distance. The total error factor always amplifies over distance.
You do understand the object ball can only be propelled along the contact line +/- the throw?