Situation Last Night

Samiel

Samiel

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I was irked by a situation last night.

I was playing a local tournament with a calcutta. My stomach wasn't feeling great, so I wasn't sure if I wanted to stick around or not. I asked to be put in the unbid player pool. A gentleman buys the pool.

I end up in the hotseat. I've been waiting on matches for over an hour and just want to chop and go home. Waiting on a few matches, but people generally chop. It ends up being around 1:30am and my opponent is willing to chop and we agree to chop the tournament money. The guy who has me in the calcutta doesn't want to chop the calcutta money ($140 vs $200) with my opponent. I tell them several times I'm tired and want to go home and they should chop. They insist I play it out.

I thought about forfeiting, but I'm generally a nice guy. I play it out and it goes hill-hill and I win.

Not really any thanks and no jelly. I was irked. Got home after 2am and had to get up at 6am for work.
 
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Samiel

Samiel

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I generally buy half myself, but since I was put into the unbid player pool (a couple people), I didn't really have that option. But I shouldn't be mad because it was my decision.
 
nataddrho

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I don't know. This happened to me once, though I was the one refusing the chop. Maybe it wasn't too late so there wasn't any air of urgency, but the environment didn't feel like either decision was the wrong one.

I can understand how a few slow matches can push the night out. I stopped playing in tournaments because I can't afford to be tired the next day. I'd now rather play arranged games on weekends or days off during a cloudy day, so that I can manage the time into my schedule and not feel like a loser stuck inside during beautiful weather.
 
iusedtoberich

iusedtoberich

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The calcutta bidder has absolutely zero say in what the tournament players do. If you and the other finalist agreed to chop, that's the end of the tournament. You and the player split 1st and 2nd. The calcutta bidders (and player if applicable) also split 1st and 2nd calcutta money.

There is no other way this can go down. Its standard everywhere in the country.

You got completely shafted letting a calcutta bidder have ANY say in your and opponents decision.
 
iusedtoberich

iusedtoberich

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nataddrho said:
I don't know. This happened to me once, though I was the one refusing the chop. Maybe it wasn't too late so there wasn't any air of urgency, but the environment didn't feel like either decision was the wrong one.

I can understand how a few slow matches can push the night out. I stopped playing in tournaments because I can't afford to be tired the next day. I'd now rather play arranged games on weekends or days off during a cloudy day, so that I can manage the time into my schedule and not feel like a loser stuck inside during beautiful weather.
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Your case was "you as the player" refused to chop. That's ok. His case was a "non-player, the calcutta bidder", butted in and demanded the player's play.
 
Samiel

Samiel

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iusedtoberich said:
The calcutta bidder has absolutely zero say in what the tournament players do. If you and the other finalist agreed to chop, that's the end of the tournament. You and the player split 1st and 2nd. The calcutta bidders (and player if applicable) also split 1st and 2nd calcutta money.

There is no other way this can go down. Its standard everywhere in the country.

You got completely shafted letting a calcutta bidder have ANY say in your and opponents decision.
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You're right, I shouldn't give them the option.
 
trob

trob

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I never buy myself in the Calcutta because I detest calcuttas and have not played in many tournaments because they are having one. That being said I’ve won tournaments that had one and I didn’t take myself in the Calcutta dan didn’t expect anything from the person who did. If you chose not to buy yourself for half then that’s on you don’t expect a dime when you win if they offered you and you declined.

Also if I wanted to split because i was sick or tired I would have given 0 shits if that guy who took me didN’t like it. That’s the risk of taking someone in the Calcutta. Go f yourself .. I’m out.
 
M

maha

from way back when
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if you take no part of the action in the calcutta you deserve no money from it if you cash.
this jelly shit is stupid.
you go to the race track and don't tip the jockey that wins for you.

when you dont put up any money and dont have an agreement before hand you deserve nothing back. as simple as that.

same when you side bet on a player. he gets nothing of your winnings. unless you have agreed to it.

and when you play, only you decide what you will do. some side action bettor like a calcutta holder has no say and you have no obligation to honor anything he does. you are no part of it.

if the opponent was a friend you could even have lost to him as a favor and the calcutta guy has no recourse and you have no responsibility to him.

although if you dumped to split the calcutta with him then that is cheating.
 
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ChrisinNC

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Samiel said:
I was irked by a situation last night.

I was playing a local tournament with a calcutta. My stomach wasn't feeling great, so I wasn't sure if I wanted to stick around or not. I asked to be put in the unbid player pool. A gentleman buys the pool.

I end up in the hotseat. I've been waiting on matches for over an hour and just want to chop and go home. Waiting on a few matches, but people generally chop. It ends up being around 1:30am and my opponent is willing to chop and we agree to chop the tournament money. The guy who has me in the calcutta doesn't want to chop the calcutta money ($140 vs $200) with my opponent. I tell them several times I'm tired and want to go home and they should chop. They insist I play it out.

I thought about forfeiting, but I'm generally a nice guy. I play it out and it goes hill-hill and I win.

Not really any thanks and no jelly. I was irked. Got home after 2am and had to get up at 6am for work.
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You have no obligation to anyone who buys half or all of you in the Calcutta, and anybody who buys anyone in the auction has no guarantees - Buyer beware.

If he was that much of a jerk, you should have forfeited the final match. It may have cost you a few $’s but it would have taught him a lesson he needed to learn.
 
S

SBC

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He can't make you play.

You are too nice
...the answer was to dump him and throw the match
 
F

fjk

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I had no idea you get request to be put into the field. I always thought everyone had to be auctioned and only no-bids went into the field pool.
 
fastone371

fastone371

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In one tournament Calcutta bid I was trying to buy myself but some railbird kept out bidding me. Finally when it got over a couple hundred bucks I gave in and immediately went and bought half of myself. I ended up in the hotseat and it was going to be a long time before the finals got played, I think there were 3 rounds left on the losers side because of slow play. I gave the railbird my phone number and instructions on what to do if I was not present when the losers side was finishing up, I figured it was the least he could do since he was in for a payday off of my hard work. My wife and I went out for a nice sit down dinner and then a walk by the lake. I still ended up with over $1500 on the split of the Calcutta plus the tournament money after winning but it was after 2AM with an hour ride home.
 
smiling_Hans

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Samiel said:
I was irked by a situation last night.

I was playing a local tournament with a calcutta. My stomach wasn't feeling great, so I wasn't sure if I wanted to stick around or not. I asked to be put in the unbid player pool. A gentleman buys the pool.

I end up in the hotseat. I've been waiting on matches for over an hour and just want to chop and go home. Waiting on a few matches, but people generally chop. It ends up being around 1:30am and my opponent is willing to chop and we agree to chop the tournament money. The guy who has me in the calcutta doesn't want to chop the calcutta money ($140 vs $200) with my opponent. I tell them several times I'm tired and want to go home and they should chop. They insist I play it out.

I thought about forfeiting, but I'm generally a nice guy. I play it out and it goes hill-hill and I win.

Not really any thanks and no jelly. I was irked. Got home after 2am and had to get up at 6am for work.
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I got tired reading this since its a reminder of how our tournaments are here. Just waiting and waiting and waiting. Which is a big reason why I quit.

I can certainly relate to the "2am while having to work at 6" thing.
 
Saig0n

Saig0n

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fjk said:
I had no idea you get request to be put into the field. I always thought everyone had to be auctioned and only no-bids went into the field pool.
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Its not that you request to get thrown in the pool. Its just that nobody put in a bid on you (including yourself) so you get thrown into the pool by default.
 
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InsertCleverNameHere

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iusedtoberich said:
The calcutta bidder has absolutely zero say in what the tournament players do. If you and the other finalist agreed to chop, that's the end of the tournament. You and the player split 1st and 2nd. The calcutta bidders (and player if applicable) also split 1st and 2nd calcutta money.

There is no other way this can go down. Its standard everywhere in the country.

You got completely shafted letting a calcutta bidder have ANY say in your and opponents decision.
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Strongly agree
 
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