SJM at the 2024 Derby City Classic

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I have just experienced nine memorable days at the Derby City Classic and I will share what it was like to be there.

Before doing so, however, I’ll take note that Diamond butchered the event for a second straight year, and few were on hand when the Master of the Table was decided and even fewer saw the 9ball final, which began at about 8:15 AM on Sunday.

Day 1, Friday January 19, 2024
Arrived at the hotel at 5:00 PM. I saw Shaw vs Gorst in the Big Foot, a good tussle up to 6-6 but Fedor was brilliant in the closing racks for the win. I then made an early night of it.

Day 2, Saturday, January 20, 2024
Saw a few early banks matches, but nothing special. I watched banks in the afternoon and there was one good match, in which Mickey Krause and Trae Joyce came down to the last ball of the last rack, with Krause prevailing. Later, Tin Man and I watched Corteza’s master class win over SVB in the Big Foot. The match of the day was Gorst vs Lunda in banks. Lunda won the first rack and Gorst the next two. Lunda tied it up, but Gorst had the first good look in the case rack. His cross-side miss proved costly when Lunda ran five and out for the win.

Day 3, Sunday, January 21, 2024
It was moving day in the Big Foot, as winning quarterfinalists would be guaranteed $4,000+. The morning banks matches were nothing special, but Filler put on quite a show in his Big Foot match against Morra. Gorst did not find his “A” game until the late stages of his Big Foot match with Zielinski, who had a brutal skid when he was about to pull within 7-6. This set up the match everyone wanted to see for Monday in the Big Foot semis. I did not see much of the evening matches, but Konrad J and Corteza won and were to face off in the other semi. At banks, the favorites had an easy time of it, but Shaw suffered his first loss. Scott Frost had a nice win over Tony Chohan. The match of the day was Naoyuki Oi vs banks specialist Troy Jones. With fine play, Oi jumped out to 2-0, but Jones found a gear that was awe-inspiring and the runouts he made in the last two racks were remarkable, as he came back for the win. Finally, one pocket began, but I saw almost none of it.

Day 4, Monday, January 22, 2024
I rarely get up for the 9:30 AM round in bank pool, but when I saw Filler would play Lunda, I knew I had to be there. The defining moments came in Rack 3, with the match tied at 1-1 and Lunda ahead four balls to none. Josh made one and then three to bring the rack down to the last ball and won the ensuing safety battle to take a 2-1 lead. Josh won the next rack for a 3-1 victory and his first ever win over Lunda at banks.

Next up was the match all had waited for as Filler and Gorst hooked up in the Big Foot semis. The match lived up to its billing, as Gorst rallied from 6-2 down to take a 9-8 lead. Filler’s break and run made it double hill. Fedor broke wet but had no choice but to push, and Filler was first to gain control of the table, then running out for the victory. I would call it the most electrifying match ever seen in the Big Foot, with the world’s two best players offering an Ali vs Frazier kind of show. Finally, I have said it before and I will say it again. Played Texas Express, 10ball is a great game.

Corteza easily dismissed Konrad J in the second semi and it was Filler topping Corteza for the Big Foot title in a match that was closer than the 10-5 final score suggested. The Big Foot had delivered.

At days end, nineteen players remained in banks, including undefeated players Pinegar, Garcia, Fracasso-Verner, SVB, Salim, Chohan and Filler.

Finally, one pocket continued, but I saw almost none of it.

Day 5, Tuesday, January 23, 2024
At long last, banks sat center stage and a champion was to be crowned. The play was electrifying all day, as some of the favorites continued to cruise. SVB, Can Salim, Josh Filler and Tony Chohan remained undefeated through Round 9, but Justin Hall beat Josh Filler easily in Round 10. In Round 11, Filler met Gorst and it was clear that the match would figure prominently in the race for Master of the table. Filler prevailed in a well-played match. With Chohan and Salim tying for fourth, the last three standing were Filler, SVB and Hall, each carrying a loss. Hall drew the bye into the final, and Filler topped Shane to advance to the final.

The banks final was among the finest at Derby City, as Justin Hall fired on all cylinders to take a 2-0 lead. Filler clawed his way back and somehow beat Hall, whose level never really dropped. Filler won $16,000 on Monday night at 10ball and $16,000 Tuesday night in banks. He became the man to beat for Master of the Table.

I did not watch much one pocket, but I knew that would change on Wednesday. What an unforgettable day of pool!

Day 6, Wednesday, January 24, 2024
One pocket was front and center and the top guys were starting to draw each other, but my focus was on the matches of Filler and Shaw, both of whom finished the day having won their first seven matches. An especially interesting match was Filler vs Lukas Fracasso-Verner. Filler scratched on two of his three breaks and had to fight hard for the double win against a fast-improving young player who’d already come tied for seventh in banks. AZB’s Tin Man had qualified for Round 8 in the one pocket by day’s end. The 9ball began, but I saw just one match, with Pia Filler prevailing. The evening session lasted until 1:30 AM, and I was there when the last ball dropped.

Day 7, Thursday, January 25, 2024
One pocket and 9ball shared the stage, but my focus was on the one pocket. The day was littered with the unpredictable, but ultimately ended with a killer final three. Lunda and DeMarco played well and tied for fourth, but the ease with which SVB, Gorst and Filler continued to advance was shocking, with the lone exception being Gorst’s escape against Brandon Shuff in which it was 2-2 and Shuff led 7-6 in ball count.

It set up unprecedented circumstances for Friday, as each of the three remaining still had buybacks at day’s end. The final rounds of one pocket were to have huge Master of the Table implications.

The 9ball was still in Round 2 at day’s end and, just like last year, things looked to be way behind schedule.

Day 8, Friday, January 26, 2024
Slept late. I saw Josh Filler top Shannon Murphy at 9ball easily. It was on to the one pocket and SVB topped Filler double hill to give Josh his first loss. Gorst then topped SVB, giving Shane his first loss. In the semis, SVB topped Filler to eliminate him. SVB needed to double dip Gorst for the title, but he won just the first set, so Gorst won the one pocket title. The Master of the table race was tight, with Filler having a narrow lead at 200 points, with SVB at 180 and Gorst at 170.

9ball plodded along and was still in Round 5 when the session ended after 1:00 AM. The 9ball tournament appeared to be backed up even more than last year. I was already worried about missing my second consecutive DCC 9ball final.

Finally, Mike Delawder was exceptional in the banks ring game, outlasting a very game Billy Thorpe for first prize.

Day 9, Saturday, January 27. 2024
With the day’s play beginning in Round 5, I knew this day would be upsetting, but I tried to block it out. I intentionally slept very late and missed the early rounds of 9ball. I was already guessing that the final wouldn’t begin until 7:00 AM, and it turns out that even that was optimistic.

The big story of the afternoon was the exit of SVB, who lost to Fotunski and Konrad J. The match of the afternoon was Alcaide vs Gorst, in which Alcaide built an 8-5 lead with exceptional play. When Gorst had an opening in the next rack, he ran it out and then broke and ran three more for a great double hill victory. Gorst and Filler both entered Round 9 undefeated.

Filler lost to Ray Linares and Gorst to Naoyuki Oi, but both stayed in the hunt until the late stages. Pijus Labutis topped Gorst to eliminate him, assuring Filler Master of the Table. The last two undefeated players were, most unexpectedly, Vitaliy Patsura and Pijus Labutis. Labutis got all the way to the final undefeated, after a double hill win against Patsura, who tied for third with Morra.

Filler would have to double dip Labutis for the 9ball title, but, for the second straight year, I saw none of the final as I had to leave for the airport. I learned when I got back to New York that Filler won the title.

Putting the 2024 in Historical Context
Certainly, Filler’s effort at the Derby was among the finest in pool history. Bigfoot champion, banks champion, one pocket bronze, 9ball champion and Master of the Table.

Gorst’s play was also of the highest caliber during the Derby, and I feel that the Filler vs Gorst rivalry has reached the level that most pool fans saw coming. There’s a lot of mutual respect between them, and theirs is a rivalry that will bring years of entertainment.

What’s Wrong with the Derby?
As a paying fan, I am disgusted by Diamond’s repeated mismanagement of the event. I felt as bad for the players, who were yawning during warmups and the play. Once again, it was the 9ball event that ruined the Derby, with the field being so big that after the second day of play, the event was still in Round 2. The event producers showed little regard for the fans or the players in the administration of the event and it is a crying shame.

Another thing that rubbed me the wrong way was that the completed matches section of the website was not being updated, sometimes as much as two days behind. That meant that one couldn’t keep track of the results, which definitely cheapens the experience.

Until the 9ball field is capped at a reasonable number, this fiasco is going to be an annual ritual.

An event that once built to a crescendo now ends with a thud and it's a shame.
 
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nice write up. i'm pretty sure it was fedor that knocked out filler in one pocket. did you watch the svb vs filler in the earlier round? it looked crowded around that table, ppl standing on each other almost. wasn't streamed, accustat dropped the ball there.

bank final probably was the best match streamed. both played lights out. fedor played almost impeccable in the 1pkt but shane didn't play as well as justin did in banks or labutis in 9-ball
 
You forgot to indicate that, once again, the One Pocket final was late again and had to be played on Friday rather than the scheduled day of Thursday.
 
The show that Filler put on throughout the event was simply masterful.

This day and age is showing a new level of pool, and it's extremely impressive to watch. Just when I think I'm getting better, the bar gets raised to new heights 😅👍
It's kind of hard to believe that the standard has risen so high, and the test is an even tougher one when the jump cue is disallowed and the pool more beautiful.

What we saw is that Gorst, perhaps the world's best at the jump shot, doesn't need the jump cue to succeed, and neither does Filler. They both possess skills in tactical design and execution that remind us of the great Efren Reyes.

Matchroom's super tight pockets combined with the tough break rule has made tactical skills more important than ever. The game of pool is evolving for the better.
 
Stu, thanks for the write up. Second only to being there and enjoying the live experience. Very much appreciated.
 
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nice write up. i'm pretty sure it was fedor that knocked out filler in one pocket. did you watch the svb vs filler in the earlier round? it looked crowded around that table, ppl standing on each other almost. wasn't streamed, accustat dropped the ball there.

bank final probably was the best match streamed. both played lights out. fedor played almost impeccable in the 1pkt but shane didn't play as well as justin did in banks or labutis in 9-ball
It was streamed -- I believe by RailbirdsTV and that means based on last year's model, expect to be treated to FREE access to it at some point in the weeks or months ahead, with post production commentary by Scott Frost. This will be a real treat!!!
 
Great to see you again Stu, and as always, thank you for your astute recap!

I wonder if it would make any difference in the scheduling if they made just one change: players have two options only for the "buy back":
  1. They can sign up for the buy back when they initially register for the tournament
  2. Or, they can add the "buy back" when they pick up their player badge at the desk when they first check in (no more mystery as to whether a player is going to buy back or not)
That way those of us that just want to enter once can still do so, but the advantage to it would be that the tournament desk would no longer have to wait for buy backs every round, and could do subsequent draws earlier, meaning as tables opened up as a result of quicker than average matches, the TD desk could immediately assign a game to available players (like a regular tournament). I'm not sure how much of a difference that would make in scheduling, but I would think it would help. It for sure would relieve the DCC cashier desk, not having to deal with the flow of buy backs coming in randomly as their matches finish, or they feel like taking the walk to the cashier desk.
 
Great write-up as always, thanks for taking the time to put it together. I wondered if lessons would be learned from last year's logistical issues, but sadly that would prove to be false. The players who endure these marathon sessions and are still able to perform at such a high level are to be commended.

How can the one pocket event start on a Sunday and not complete until Friday?!? The people involved in the scheduling really need to rethink their approach after fumbling for the second straight year. They've proved incapable of getting things to finish on time given the large number of entrants in each event.

Possible solutions:
1. Partner with a third party to more effectively manage the logistics of each event.
2. Reduce the number of entrants per event. Unlikely given the impact on revenue.
3. Extend the event an extra day. Least appealing and only treats the symptom rather than the problem.

Folks who travel to support the event and continue to pay are really being taken advantage of IMO. Imagine paying full price for the event and having to leave before the final is completed?!?
 
Great write up Stu. It is always a great time seeing you. I have played in around 10 DCC 9 ball events and attended many as well. Of the 25 events, I think I have been to 18 of them. I remember when the tournaments always finished on time. Meaning Banks were done on Monday, one pocket on Thursday, and 9 ball on Saturday. I also remembered the fields being way smaller. They all averaged around 325 players. Now all the events have 500 plus players. I think that is a large part of the problem, along with the scheduling. I am good friends with a past Master of the Table player and he suggested that DCC expand to Sunday or only people will a 550 Fargo and higher should be allowed to play. He told me that at this event, two players that were probably sub 400 fargo drew each other in the 9 ball. It took 4 hours to play. The DCC is truly designed as an open event. Anyone can play in the same field, and even against the people they see on TV. That is allure of an amateur player. If you get a lucky draw and are able to get to round 5, you cash. That keeps people coming back. If DCC doesn't want to cap the fields, then they need to expand to Sunday because its not getting done until Sunday anyways.
 
Big conventions are big business. I have to believe that there are third parties who can either a) run or coordinate conventions and/or b) troubleshoot and suggest remedies for conventions with issues, or both. I also believe that DCC is in dire need of some type of professional analysis. Sometimes the most difficult, and necessary, decision is the one to step back and let someone else step in. Just because you can do one thing very well does not mean you can do everything very well -- ask some physicians who have tried to branch out beyond medicine, This is no criticism of Diamond but rather a recognition of success of the underlying concept.

Some things can be said of DCC without fear of contradiction: it is the greatest show in pool, we all love it and want it to be around for a long time, and like anything we love, we want it to be the best it can be,

Pool has entered a very challenging era, We need the DCC just like we need our pool halls. We cannot afford to lose anything more.
 
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It was streamed -- I believe by RailbirdsTV and that means based on last year's model, expect to be treated to FREE access to it at some point in the weeks or months ahead, with post production commentary by Scott Frost. This will be a real treat!!!

it was recorded yes, but i meant livestreamed. i like to see sport when it happens
 
Great Write up Stu,

It was a pleasure meeting you, I had a great time conversing with you and hearing your insight on a few of the players. I am glad you were able to recover your hard drive and not lose the first 6 days of your write-up. This was my first Derby and I had a great time seeing friends I had not seen in a few years and meeting new ones.
 
Thanks for another great recap. I attended for my first time this year and really enjoyed it. I was waiting for a time to find you alone and introduce myself but never found one. I guess the guy who has more tv time than any player always has someone talking with him.
 
Great to see you again Stu, and as always, thank you for your astute recap!

I wonder if it would make any difference in the scheduling if they made just one change: players have two options only for the "buy back":
  1. They can sign up for the buy back when they initially register for the tournament
  2. Or, they can add the "buy back" when they pick up their player badge at the desk when they first check in (no more mystery as to whether a player is going to buy back or not)
That way those of us that just want to enter once can still do so, but the advantage to it would be that the tournament desk would no longer have to wait for buy backs every round, and could do subsequent draws earlier, meaning as tables opened up as a result of quicker than average matches, the TD desk could immediately assign a game to available players (like a regular tournament). I'm not sure how much of a difference that would make in scheduling, but I would think it would help. It for sure would relieve the DCC cashier desk, not having to deal with the flow of buy backs coming in randomly as their matches finish, or they feel like taking the walk to the cashier desk.
Great seeing you again, Steve, and getting to chat. Was glad to have the opportunity to buy an extra copy of your book for my friend.

Yes, prepayment of the buyback seems a good idea that would save some time.
 
Great write up Stu. It is always a great time seeing you. I have played in around 10 DCC 9 ball events and attended many as well. Of the 25 events, I think I have been to 18 of them. I remember when the tournaments always finished on time. Meaning Banks were done on Monday, one pocket on Thursday, and 9 ball on Saturday. I also remembered the fields being way smaller. They all averaged around 325 players. Now all the events have 500 plus players. I think that is a large part of the problem, along with the scheduling. I am good friends with a past Master of the Table player and he suggested that DCC expand to Sunday or only people will a 550 Fargo and higher should be allowed to play. He told me that at this event, two players that were probably sub 400 fargo drew each other in the 9 ball. It took 4 hours to play. The DCC is truly designed as an open event. Anyone can play in the same field, and even against the people they see on TV. That is allure of an amateur player. If you get a lucky draw and are able to get to round 5, you cash. That keeps people coming back. If DCC doesn't want to cap the fields, then they need to expand to Sunday because its not getting done until Sunday anyways.
Yes, Brian, it was great catching up at the Derby. You always seemed to be in good spirits, so I know you had a good time.
 
Great Write up Stu,

It was a pleasure meeting you, I had a great time conversing with you and hearing your insight on a few of the players. I am glad you were able to recover your hard drive and not lose the first 6 days of your write-up. This was my first Derby and I had a great time seeing friends I had not seen in a few years and meeting new ones.
Yeah, thanks for introducing yourself, Jim. Glad we had a chance to talk. I left the fact that my computer crashed out of my writeup, but the problem was resolved within twenty-four hours and no files were lost. As I write for about ten minutes each day before bed, I nearly lost the first six days of my writeup.
 
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