If you are talking the “trick” shot with the OB “frozen” and a 90 deg or greater cut, any C player can make that 1 out of 10 tries. It’s a rail first shot. It’s not a cut shot. It’s easy as pie.
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Try doing that shot 7 - 8’ away......head on perpendicular......ain’t no C player doing that 10% of the time
with the cue ball frozen in the middle of the rail........that is a 25” roll on the rail to either pocket you pick.
You might do it one out of ten times but it just ain’t gonna happen the way you predict....been doin this for
decades and it is just a hard shot for anyone. I saw Audie Perez do it one time at Classic Billiards in Clovis, CA
with both the cue ball & object ball frozen on opposing foot and head rails dead square in the middle of the rail.
Someone bet that he couldn’t do that shot again for $100 bucks & he replied....”I don’t have anything to prove.”
p.s. This happened the summer of 1983 on a Wed nite 9 ball tournament after it concluded.
In reality, as was already pointed out, either setup is a shot most players would prefer banking to a corner pocket.
We can discuss shot difficulty all day long but shot probability always comes into play, as well as playing defense.
Time is better spent on the weakest part of one’s game which sometimes is difficult for a player to even recognize.
That’s why video recording practice sessions can reveal what you need to work on to improve your stroke or strategy.
We can discuss shot difficulty all day long but shot probability always comes into play, as well as playing defense.
Time is better spent on the weakest part of one’s game which sometimes is difficult for a player to even recognize.
That’s why video recording practice sessions can reveal what you need to work on to improve your stroke or strategy.
There's Youtube of Reyes making a spot shot from one foot pocket. Never been able to do this. The cloth was ultra fast.
Bob Jewett has posted a vid of himself doing that. He used outside english.
pj
chgo
I kinda remember that I think. Kinda like that impossible bank. Any numbers on the force transmitted at 87 degrees plus?
I saw Alex Pagulayan do this shot on the third try at JOB's in Madison,TN during the Music City Open about 10 years ago. Several guys were trying it and Alex walked by. They asked him to try it. So he did it and I promised myself, I would do it. It took a lot of tries. After doing it once and knowing you can do it, makes it easier.
I've made it on a Diamond, Gold Crown, my 100 year old BBC, but it took a lot of tries. Not my "Bread and Butter" shot. Thanks to everyone for trying it and their comments.
By the way...It is easier to make it on cloth that has a ball grove worn next to the rail.
I've made it on a Diamond, Gold Crown, my 100 year old BBC, but it took a lot of tries. Not my "Bread and Butter" shot. Thanks to everyone for trying it and their comments.
By the way...It is easier to make it on cloth that has a ball grove worn next to the rail.
Referring to post # 24
I saw the video but I think the cue ball jumped a little. I do not know if the object ball had some chalk on it.
I would have thought you needed inside for this shot. The speed of the shot makes it pretty hard to make with how much the object ball has to travel. I've made shots with a reverse angle on the ball with inside spin but I don't think further than a diamond away from the pocket, and the cueball about the middle of the table.
This is someone else's video. It's a lot more watchable than the one I made myself of the first time I did this.
On the second try, at 0:30, I cut the five ball about 110 degrees. It doesn't go very far. Conclusion: you don't want to hit it as thin as you may think.
Strong language present)Instasnt car sickness due to camera operator.This is someone else's video. It's a lot more watchable than the one I made myself of the first time I did this.
On the second try, at 0:30, I cut the five ball about 110 degrees. It doesn't go very far. Conclusion: you don't want to hit it as thin as you may think.
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I do not think it will go with inside.
I wonder.
I doubt that inside creates any throw at that angle, so if you can swerve around the OB's edge a little with enough speed...
Not the easiest shot.
pj <- apologies to Duckie
chgo
I will agree that it is possible....masse. I would try it till I make it 10 times each way and see how many times it took me each way. But i am 77 and don't think I have enough time left...LOL
The grazing speed is higher with inside; might transmit more force? Inside on thin cuts also allows you to point at the edge and deflect thinner than you can judge.
Maybe, but in the wrong direction. Side spin force is perpendicular to the shot line - collision force is directed (at least slightly) along it.
pj
chgo
Yeah, I was thinking it might be entirely displacement. Still, cut induction is some kind of transmission.
Shot it twenty times. Not even close to making it. 10min of my life i ain't gettin' back.