Sky in Mosconi Cup

Sky is a better big table player... he only recently (within the last 2 years) started to compete in bar box events...

Lmao

You can't be serious

He has been dominant on the bar table
I know of no rotation event on the nine footer he has even been close to winning
 
Sky will have his shot to strut his stuff on the big tables. The three automatic qualifiers are likely going to be decided at Turning Stone in August and the US Open 9-ball in October.

If they decide to play the Mosconi on bar tables, and given this year's selection criteria for Team USA one must consider the possibility, Sky will surely be a wild card.

Wishing Sky good luck. He's a fine young player.
 
Unless he has played in enough Mosconi Cup points events, it's likely he will not be on the team. The Mosconi Cup is for entertainment purposes only.

Which pool events are not for entertainment purposes?
 
Entertainment purposes??? The players want to be there, they always sweat every roll, the pressure is intense, and the fans are entertained ... yet you act like this is a bad thing? Maybe more promoters ought to start entertaining. It's not like the game isn't taken seriously - actually, it's rarely taken as seriously. I agree that it's strange to see team pool and short races, but there are many of the short races, which help to balance the luck factor, yet retain the tension, and most of us can live with a unique format once a year. Sometimes it's ok to have fun and generate interest.
 
While I agree with your logic, it is not consistent with reality. There are several bar table events that carry Mosconi Cup points.

Thus it would be just as accurate to say : "Many of the point events for the Mosconi Cup are on bar tables, therefore Sky has a very strong chance to make the team."

I heard that the US Open 8 ball and 10 ball will be on bar tables this year?

That ought to help his chances.

That being said, I've seen him play on 9 footers, and he is not nearly as strong as on the bar table.

KMRUNOUT

An analogy is TV vs Movie
Many TV stars migrate unsuccessfully from small screen to big screen Movies- list of failures is long eg. David Duchovny, David Caruso, Matthew Perry etc
But you just answered your own question - Sky is not as strong on 9 foot. Just cos a player is strong on 7 foot does not mean he will be strong on 9 foot. Add to that the bright lights , big pressure , world class opponents and requirement to play in team that means 9 ft MC is few levels above 7ft regional tourneys.
But IMHO Sky will do better than some of last years team cos of his youth he will be unfazed and will be an element of surprise. And I will take unfazed over experience. I mean when you are faced with world class super experienced WC opponents , you are unlikely to beat then with your "experienced" players who cannot match your opponents in experience and skills . So you go contrarian - you pick those talented unfazed young ones. I mean a team of young guns comprising Little Ko, Anton Raga, Johan Chua, Jeff Ignacio and Sky will have much better chance of beating Team Europe last year than Team USA.
:thumbup:
 
i saw sky practicing on the 9's tonight with another pro who's name escapes me right now. young fella like sky but heavy set.

this was at the meucci factory. i would not say they were doing drills but bob was going over certain shots with them.

i was more interested in watching them than playing my league match and lost 4-1 to a guy i should have beat 4-1 lol.
 
While I agree with your logic, it is not consistent with reality. There are several bar table events that carry Mosconi Cup points.

Thus it would be just as accurate to say : "Many of the point events for the Mosconi Cup are on bar tables, therefore Sky has a very strong chance to make the team."

I heard that the US Open 8 ball and 10 ball will be on bar tables this year?

That ought to help his chances.

That being said, I've seen him play on 9 footers, and he is not nearly as strong as on the bar table.

KMRUNOUT

I wonder why they have bar table events that give out Mosconi Cup points, when the Mosconi Cup is played on 9 foot tables? Does the Mosconi Cup team not need the 5 very strongest 9 foot table players to have the best chance of winning?
 
Mr. Wilson is being paid by the entertainment company. He's building a team to win a "Cup" for entertainment purposes. The players get paid even if they lose.

Yes, that is true, but the players get twice as much money if they win, right? So that should give the team captain enough incentive to want to build the very strongest team possible, and that should give the players enough incentive to play their best, and try their hardest to win, right?
 
i saw sky practicing on the 9's tonight with another pro who's name escapes me right now. young fella like sky but heavy set.

this was at the meucci factory. i would not say they were doing drills but bob was going over certain shots with them.

i was more interested in watching them than playing my league match and lost 4-1 to a guy i should have beat 4-1 lol.

Sorry to go off subject of the thread, but I recently heard that Sky is going to be sponsored by Meucci (and was not sure if it was true), but after reading your comment, it sounds like it might be true. So Sky will have to play with a Meucci from now on. I imagine that will not be a nice change, having to give up shooting with his Diveney, and have to start shooting full time with a Meucci.
 
I wonder why they have bar table events that give out Mosconi Cup points, when the Mosconi Cup is played on 9 foot tables? Does the Mosconi Cup team not need the 5 very strongest 9 foot table players to have the best chance of winning?

The reason Matchroom threw bar-table events into the mix is the paucity of significant events in the USA on 9-footers. They wanted to have more than a partial handful of events for players to try to earn their way onto the team.

And, from what mikepage has reported (based on his Fargo ratings) -- (1) the same group of players who are best on 7-footers are also best on 9-footers and (2) they are essentially just as much better than the next-lower-skilled group of players using 7-footers as using 9-footers. Hence, it is OK to use smaller tables as a discriminator of pool skill and to qualify for events on larger tables, or vice versa.

[posted previously in another thread]
 
While I agree with your logic, it is not consistent with reality. There are several bar table events that carry Mosconi Cup points.

Thus it would be just as accurate to say : "Many of the point events for the Mosconi Cup are on bar tables, therefore Sky has a very strong chance to make the team."

I heard that the US Open 8 ball and 10 ball will be on bar tables this year?

That ought to help his chances.

That being said, I've seen him play on 9 footers, and he is not nearly as strong as on the bar table.

KMRUNOUT

Sky shot a .925 in the US Open 9-Ball Championship last year on the TV table beating Alex 11-8 with Alex shooting an .893.... Were only a handfull of players that shot over 900 last year in the Open on the TV table.......
 
Sorry to go off subject of the thread, but I recently heard that Sky is going to be sponsored by Meucci (and was not sure if it was true), but after reading your comment, it sounds like it might be true. So Sky will have to play with a Meucci from now on. I imagine that will not be a nice change, having to give up shooting with his Diveney, and have to start shooting full time with a Meucci.

Meucci is going thru a rebirth. Better materials and Quality plus a true entry into the LD Shaft market..... Shaw and Sky are both playing with Meucci now and Shaw has been picking up his pace since the switch. Diveney gave Sky his blessings but Sky was still having a hard time leaving Pat... Keep your eyes open as word on the street is at least 3 more world class players will be with Meucci very soon.....
 
The reason Matchroom threw bar-table events into the mix is the paucity of significant events in the USA on 9-footers. They wanted to have more than a partial handful of events for players to try to earn their way onto the team.

And, from what mikepage has reported (based on his Fargo ratings) -- (1) the same group of players who are best on 7-footers are also best on 9-footers and (2) they are essentially just as much better than the next-lower-skilled group of players using 7-footers as using 9-footers. Hence, it is OK to use smaller tables as a discriminator of pool skill and to qualify for events on larger tables, or vice versa.

[posted previously in another thread]

Okay, then if that is true then a match between Jayson Shaw and Skylar Woodward on a 9 foot diamond for example (racing to a 100) would be a close race in the end? I think not. I imagine Shaw would beat Woodward very easily. My point is that I think the the 9 foot tables are in an entirely different league then the 7 foot tables, and I think that most would agree with me about that. 7 foot tables are a joke in comparison.
 
Sky shot a .925 in the US Open 9-Ball Championship last year on the TV table beating Alex 11-8 with Alex shooting an .893.... Were only a handfull of players that shot over 900 last year in the Open on the TV table.......

Wow, I had no idea that Sky was that good on the big tables. If he beat Alex, then he must be really good. That is really shocking though. Alex is the best in my mind. Skyler must have played really great.
 
Sorry to go off subject of the thread, but I recently heard that Sky is going to be sponsored by Meucci (and was not sure if it was true), but after reading your comment, it sounds like it might be true. So Sky will have to play with a Meucci from now on. I imagine that will not be a nice change, having to give up shooting with his Diveney, and have to start shooting full time with a Meucci.

sky and jason shaw both have a line of meucci cues named after them.

maybe bob is serious about sponsoring pros like he used to years ago.

i know for a while the quality of his cues left a lot to be desired but it seems lately he has gotten more involved in the quality control and it shows with the new line of cues coming out such as the bmc's and pro line of cues.

while there tonight i shot a few balls with one of the pro series cues and really liked it.
 
The reason Matchroom threw bar-table events into the mix is the paucity of significant events in the USA on 9-footers. They wanted to have more than a partial handful of events for players to try to earn their way onto the team.

And, from what mikepage has reported (based on his Fargo ratings) -- (1) the same group of players who are best on 7-footers are also best on 9-footers and (2) they are essentially just as much better than the next-lower-skilled group of players using 7-footers as using 9-footers. Hence, it is OK to use smaller tables as a discriminator of pool skill and to qualify for events on larger tables, or vice versa.

[posted previously in another thread]

mikepage may be right that group best on 7 ft also best on 9 ft
The difference is the bands/variances within each best group
The top guy in the 7ft best group may be the worst in best 9ft group and vice versa
It is always about selecting who are the best of the best group not about selecting who is the best of all pool players (which includes bangers, wannabes, amateurs etc)


Sky shot a .925 in the US Open 9-Ball Championship last year on the TV table beating Alex 11-8 with Alex shooting an .893.... Were only a handfull of players that shot over 900 last year in the Open on the TV table.......

I am exaggerating but bringing that up is like referencing a Bob Beamon feat :grin:
I would be more interested to know Sky H2H 9 ft record v Alex not a one off match
 
Meucci is going thru a rebirth. Better materials and Quality plus a true entry into the LD Shaft market..... Shaw and Sky are both playing with Meucci now and Shaw has been picking up his pace since the switch. Diveney gave Sky his blessings but Sky was still having a hard time leaving Pat... Keep your eyes open as word on the street is at least 3 more world class players will be with Meucci very soon.....

I have nothing against Meucci cues (they are nice hitting cues), but I can't imagine that they will ever be in the same league as the hit and feel of a Diveney. I imagine that it had to have been about a very big paycheck to make the switch from Diveney to a Meucci (no matter how good the quality of Meucci cues are these days). I am happy for Skyler though, to get a sponsorship deal from a big cue company like Meucci.
 
... My point is that I think the the 9 foot tables are in an entirely different league then the 7 foot tables, and I think that most would agree with me about that. 7 foot tables are a joke in comparison.

mikepage may be right that group best on 7 ft also best on 9 ft
The difference is the bands/variances within each best group ...

The movement toward greater use of 7-footers in pro events is not something that pleases me, either. But I think I understand the reasons for it.

As far as the selection process for the USA players for the Mosconi Cup, including 5 events on the 7-footers, at reduced points levels, is fine with me. The process is rational, although most of us think it would be even better if only x, y, and z were different. But I'm confident that the process will end up placing 3 of the USA's very best pool players at the top. And Mark Wilson then has the duty of filling out the team with 2 other top players who didn't happen to make the top 3 on points. It will be a fine team, and I'll certainly watch regardless of who the 5 are.

And then they will change the process for next year, and so on.
 
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