Slow play

Sorry, Ned, time has passed you by. Your ethos is old and tired; your methods usurped. Your legacy is a nation of crooked shooters, and your children are not interested in the game.

Move over.

WOW. Thems fighting words where I come from. What would make you say something like that off the playground.
You don't talk about a mans children, wife, dog or even the car he drives. Who raised you, a pack of wolfs. Ned? BTW I'm not ten feet tall. I'm 5'4" but I've got some mongoose blood in me.

I don't like slooooow play either.
 
Slow play among champions doesn't bother me so much. They usually have a pretty good reason and it does give the commentators a chance to share some valuable knowledge of the game. The bad part is whenever great players play slow, it can make it seem okay for amateur players to play slow.
 
Slow play among champions doesn't bother me so much. They usually have a pretty good reason and it does give the commentators a chance to share some valuable knowledge of the game. The bad part is whenever great players play slow, it can make it seem okay for new/weak players to play slow.

A guy who cant make a ball playing slow is so unbearable. If you are going to for sure miss, just miss will you.
 
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Ken...You just have to consider the source. The Thaiger never has anything positive to say about anything...and his "holier than thou" attitude will catch up with him one of these days, if he ever ventures out of his basement! :D

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

WOW. Thems fighting words where I come from. What would make you say something like that off the playground.
You don't talk about a mans children, wife, dog or even the car he drives. Who raised you, a pack of wolfs. Ned? BTW I'm not ten feet tall. I'm 5'4" but I've got some mongoose blood in me.

I don't like slooooow play either.
 
Well- to every person his opinion.
But the way of using your *well choosen* words are just barefaced and rude. You re talking like a reayl professional railbird-but one of those who spend more time with watching.

Ingo

I don't watch pool - it's indescribably boring. I think that's what this thread is about. Do TRY to keep up!

So, Ratta, tell me; post #12 in this thread - would you consider that rude?
 
I don't watch pool - it's indescribably boring. I think that's what this thread is about. Do TRY to keep up!

So, Ratta, tell me; post #12 in this thread - would you consider that rude?

there is nothing more boring than a snooker game that's for sure, unless someone is going for a century. There fundamentals are so boring, is just a game of aiming pretty much. I prefer the versatile skill of a 9 ball player over some guy cutting in shot after shot. Boring britsh players lacking in pool skills...my opinion :)
 
Ken...You just have to consider the source. The Thaiger never has anything positive to say about anything...and his "holier than thou" attitude will catch up with him one of these days, if he ever ventures out of his basement! :D

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

Did you find that evidence I asked you for? No? Oh. I'll take the retraction and apology as read, then.

Actually, if you read what I actually write, and ignore the haters, you'd see I offer a lot of constructive advice; namely, play with fluidity, freedom, self-belief and don't tie yourself in knots trying to think what other people have told you. Oh, and learn the snooker stance.

That's pretty much it. No Brit has ever burdened himself with 99% of the "advice" offered by self-appointed experts on this site. There are a hundred guys with perfect cue actions in my hall right now, and not one has had a lesson, read a book or bought a DVD. They'd laugh if I suggested reading this site. The chap that cuts my hair is a former European Champion. I socialise with a current European champion. My best buddy is a national champion. They have never heard of aiming systems or pivots or BHE or CIT or any of the other quite bewildering array of nonsense you lot love to bathe in.

A stick, some balls, a table. Get on with it, and learn YOURSELF.
 
there is nothing more boring than a snooker game that's for sure, unless someone is going for a century. There fundamentals are so boring, is just a game of aiming pretty much. I prefer the versatile skill of a 9 ball player over some guy cutting in shot after shot. Boring britsh players lacking in pool skills...my opinion :)

Snooker is no longer the sole preserve of the British, Champ, and hasn't been for quite some time. I suggest you watch more of it if you find it boring - it's a terrific game to watch when you get into it. High breaks are actually one of the less interesting elements.

The world championships are in May BTW. 17 days of bliss.
 
WOW. Thems fighting words where I come from. What would make you say something like that off the playground.
You don't talk about a mans children, wife, dog or even the car he drives. Who raised you, a pack of wolfs. Ned? BTW I'm not ten feet tall. I'm 5'4" but I've got some mongoose blood in me.

I don't like slooooow play either.

Okaley Dokely!

Neddy loves to have a pop at me every now and then, sometimes slandering me or inciting others to red rep me for a bit of extra fun.
 
Yeah, I think I smell another ban coming, maybe permanent.

Why? Am I not allowed to say what I think's wrong with pool? Seems like everyone else is, and I'm not abusive like a lot of people around here are.

When people attack you, do you bend over and take it, or do you defend yourself like a man? I merely robustly defend my position, and don't see why that's a problem.
 
Thread likes this will definitely will help in addressing the problem of slow play. I don`t know how many of you remember a thread in the past regards the slow play in which " kid delicious " was severely criticized for his infamous slow play. I do believe that thread influenced the pool community and it made the bigwigs to look at the problem of slow play. If we have threads like this periodically, pool community will definitely develop aversion for slow play and will demand for changes in the rules of the game.

I don`t play with slow players ( if I know it beforehand ) and I don`t even say hello to them when I see them.
I don`t care for the slow players.:cool:

Couldn't agree more, on all points. Well said. We can only change the game for the better by speaking out about its failings, and there's no bigger failing than its pace.
 
Snooker is no longer the sole preserve of the British, Champ, and hasn't been for quite some time. I suggest you watch more of it if you find it boring - it's a terrific game to watch when you get into it. High breaks are actually one of the less interesting elements.

The world championships are in May BTW. 17 days of bliss.

i have watched lots of matches and if your not watching two top pros play it, it could be considered a form of torture!! its a very repetitive game and not a lot of skill needed other then great potting skills. There fundamentals are all based on potting mostly almost straight in shots. I prefer the skills of a pool player, way more exciting and challenging ;)
 
i have watched lots of matches and if your not watching two top pros play it, it could be considered a form of torture!! its a very repetitive game and not a lot of skill needed other then great potting skills. There fundamentals are all based on potting mostly almost straight in shots. I prefer the skills of a pool player, way more exciting and challenging ;)

Their 'almost all straight-in shots' are because of their FANTASTIC positional play!

And I'm sorry, but snooker's probably the least repetitive sport going. Every frame is different, to use an oft-quoted cliche.
 
Their 'almost all straight-in shots' are because of their FANTASTIC positional play!

And I'm sorry, but snooker's probably the least repetitive sport going. Every frame is different, to use an oft-quoted cliche.

there positional play is routine and basic with great potting skills is all, this is why they get crushed playing pool all the time.There skill is too limited.
 
there positional play is routine and basic with great potting skills is all, this is why they get crushed playing pool all the time.There skill is too limited.

Their skill is exceptional, is what I think you meant to say. As for the pool Vs snooker thing, pool players the world over are welcome to try and win the vast riches on offer for the successful snooker player, so where are they? Oh, that's right, there over there, quivering in the corner, wondering why their cue action is so bad. :D

ps I'm well aware you're attempting to wind me up. :wink:
 
Their skill is exceptional, is what I think you meant to say. As for the pool Vs snooker thing, pool players the world over are welcome to try and win the vast riches on offer for the successful snooker player, so where are they? Oh, that's right, there over there, quivering in the corner, wondering why their cue action is so bad. :D

ps I'm well aware you're attempting to wind me up. :wink:

There is no snooker over here now days, no interest! i guess everyone is more interested in a faster paced game with more skill involved. Maybe if they tweaked snooker and made it less boring and more skill involved, we would start seeing pool players playing it :)
 
Thread likes this will definitely will help in addressing the problem of slow play.

If it is allowed to be about the pace of play, and this one is quickly moving away from that topic.

It serves a purpose if the discussion is on the facets of slow play. "I don't like slow play" does nothing but cite player/viewer preference. That's indicative, but not particularly constructive in framing a problem.

Every player has a rhythm he/she feels most comfortable with. If a known player prefers to play at a very fast place and one forces them to play slower it is no different than forcing slow players to play quicker. Every sport shares this and players have since long ago exploited that aspect to gain an advantage. A sport like basketball is a simple and clear example to most anyone that has watched the game. Tempo is important to proper play.

To be a problem, though, there is generally a logistical concern. Golfers, for instance, often complain of slow play and at times officials have to try to quicken that pace up. That's understandable given the need to get a set number of golfers through a set number of holes before dark. Similarly, something like a straight pool tournament may eventually go to a shot clock if the games are running long, for similiar concerns.

In terms of simple preference, though, the pool/snooker cultural preference brings about another example: american football vs soccer. If one asks an american football fan to comment on soccer (assuming he doesn't particularly care for the sport) and a european soccer fan to comment on american football (same assumption) you get a remarkably similiar answer: It's boring.

It's interesting in that the same argument is used for two vastly different sports. American football is a stop-start sport. An average NFL game only has around 11 minutes of actual action. It's a game played 5 seconds at a time. On the other hand, a soccer match is a 45 minute half of continual action. No timeouts and only occasional stoppages for injuries or resetting the ball. American football could be said to have little to no fluidity whereas soccer is the very definition of such in a sport. Ironically, it is for that reason that the opposing side often cites the other sport as 'boring'.

Anyone that wants to discuss tempo as a primary causal condition to the popularity of pool should think about why it is that pool has never been a popular viewer sport in the United States and why it has in other countries.
 
Anyone that wants to discuss tempo as a primary causal condition to the popularity of pool should think about why it is that pool has never been a popular viewer sport in the United States and why it has in other countries.

Why do you think that is?
 
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