Smoke Free Room

jjinfla

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I was at Anastasia Billiards in St. Augustine Florida yesterday and it is a smoke free room. Owner has Asthma and can't handle smoke. I have to admit that it sure was a nice room a pleasure to be in and wish I lived near it.

Kingsbay Tour was playing there and one problem that came up was that during a match a player would take a break to go outside and smoke. Some of the players were saying that that should not be allowed. A break to go to the john is okay but not to go outside during a match. Are smoke breaks allowed anyplace else?

I also watched Dave Grossman warm up a bit and that man sure can control the CB. Made everything look so effortless and easy I wonder how he can ever lose a match. And he is not even rated with the top guys. It is just amazing at how much talent the top pros must have.

Jake
 
jjinfla said:
I was at Anastasia Billiards in St. Augustine Florida yesterday and it is a smoke free room. Owner has Asthma and can't handle smoke. I have to admit that it sure was a nice room a pleasure to be in and wish I lived near it.

Kingsbay Tour was playing there and one problem that came up was that during a match a player would take a break to go outside and smoke. Some of the players were saying that that should not be allowed. A break to go to the john is okay but not to go outside during a match. Are smoke breaks allowed anyplace else?

I also watched Dave Grossman warm up a bit and that man sure can control the CB. Made everything look so effortless and easy I wonder how he can ever lose a match. And he is not even rated with the top guys. It is just amazing at how much talent the top pros must have.

Jake

Yes, Anatasia's is a top notch place and probably one of the best pool rooms I have ever been in...just because they don't allow smoking. I got news for you though, aint nobody taking a smoke break in the middle of a match against me...PERIOD. That's pathetic and blatent poor sportsmanship. A person having to go to the bathroom is one thing, but to go smoke a cigarette? Geez...I would break my cue down and quit right there.

Shorty
 
I am not a cigg'er, but I think think there should be a break period allowed, max of 10-15 minutes, one time per match. Maybe in a race to 11 or more, 2 breaks max.

You can smoke, crap, hide or go cuss yourself. Just don't stay out too long.
 
I played in a room in Indy that was smoke free and it was great! I really enjoyed it, and at that time I smoked (havent had one since last tuesday but Im about to kill someone :D )

And Shorty, let me get this straight. People complain and want a poolroom to be non-smoking even though a great number of poolplayers are smokers. Then when they get a non-smoking room they are going to complain because someone wants to go out and have a smoke? Ya gots to give a little to get a little. I would be more than happy to take one break during a set to let someone go out and smoke if it meant I could play in a smoke free room. I assume by what you say you dont smoke. If Im wrong please correct me.

The few tournaments I have seen held in smoke free rooms made it so that one break was allowed during a set. And I didnt see a problem with it. I sure wouldnt call it being a poor sport.
 
No, I am not a smoker...it stunts my growth ya know.

But seriously, these are races to 7, which at most take an hour to play. People should be able to go one hour without smoking. Also, I make sure myself to go to the bathroom before I begin a match.

What concerns me I suppose is people using the break to shark their opponent. Say I am on fire and I am up on a guy 5-0, then my opponent calls "smoke break". I may not be able to catch my wind again to get those last two games.

Also, I was involved in a tournament once where the guy would take smoke breaks, but hell he was going to smoke crack so he could get jacked up. I tried to play slow and play the wind out of sails, but he still beat me 7-5. Sorry...I am just bitter cause I stood a good chance of winning the whole thing. He won the whole tourney and I came the closest to beating him that day. Everyone else just ignored his crack smoking.

That's my opinion...I don't know if I would actually quit...but it would sure walk around in my head some that's for sure.

Shorty
 
Well today is the day, in about TWO Hours our little Community 29 Brunswick Crown Table Room Reopens after being closed Almost FOUR MONTH, for Renovation.

It Smokefree, and will stay that way as it is the LAW of the Land where I live.

Second Hand Smoke is a Killer, and Smokers are a Dying Breed. I go to Rooms that allow Smoking, but still scratch my head every time I still see people Smoking Cigarettes
 
I don't think there are any smoke free rooms in St Louis. If there was one it would get all of my business. :cool:
 
Shorty said:
...People should be able to go one hour without smoking. Also, I make sure myself to go to the bathroom before I begin a match.

What concerns me I suppose is people using the break to shark their opponent...
Also, I was involved in a tournament once where the guy would take smoke breaks, but hell he was going to smoke crack...I am just bitter cause I stood...

Shorty

But, your personal reasons aside, there must be some legitimate reason for a person to take a break in a session. Maybe Montezuma's Revenge, maybe somebody blew up the car in the lot, maybe there is a crack rock calling his name. Doesn't matter. One break, 15min max. Don't have to take it. It is the fairest way to go about it without passing moral judgement.
 
Shorty said:
I got news for you though, aint nobody taking a smoke break in the middle of a match against me...PERIOD. That's pathetic and blatent poor sportsmanship. A person having to go to the bathroom is one thing, but to go smoke a cigarette? Geez...I would break my cue down and quit right there.

Shorty

Hey Shorty,

I got news for ya though bud. At the Joss finale it happened almost every match. The players were allowed one 10 or 15 minute break and I don't know of one who didn't use it to their advantage. Whether they went to the bathroom or smoked a cigarette is irrelevant. You get it, use it.

Koop
 
Koop said:
Hey Shorty,

I got news for ya though bud. At the Joss finale it happened almost every match. The players were allowed one 10 or 15 minute break and I don't know of one who didn't use it to their advantage.

Same thing happens at the WPBA tourneys, like you said, almost every match.
 
I think one fifteen minute break per match/per player should be allowed. If you need to use the bathroom, smoke, whatever. That is reasonable and should be used at discretion. If this rule is understood beforehand there should be no problem. Just my two cents.
 
Smoking ...

shoiuld be a billiard room owner's decision. That way
whatever he decides and affects his business was a
result of that decision. I know I would not go play
in a room for money where I could not smoke... period ...

State laws governing smoking are okay for government
buildings, but not for private businesses, the owner should
decide that. Haven't I just read in the last couple of weeks
on here about rooms going broke on the East coast where
no smoking bans were passed as a state law?

I don't like putting up with drunks in a billiard room? Can I get
a ban on that? or obnocious stupid people? or gum chewers
that chew with their mouth open smacking their gum? or
chalk squeakers?

Bottom line is - room owner should decide, the state government
should not for privately held businesses ...IMO.
 
Snapshot9 said:
or obnocious stupid people? or gum chewers
that chew with their mouth open smacking their gum?


I don't know about a pool room because the loud and terrible music can drown them out, (sometimes) but they definitely should do it in a movie theater. Y'ER OUTTA HERE....GO!!
 
I definately play better in a smoke free environment. The smoke gets to me after several hours and I can't stand the way I smell after playing for a few hours at the pool hall. I literally go home, throw my clothes in the wash and take a shower. I shouldn't have to do that. But I do because I love to play and it seems like 80% of the better players smoke for whatever reason.

I have no problem with someone taking a cigerette break between sets. Hell, most of the time someone smokes while playing they only get a couple drags while the cigerette just burns out anyways. The problem I have is with the chain smoking. Seems like there is a constant stream of smoke running through my head on the way to the smoke eater. This smoke always finds you no matter where you sit, kind of like mosquitos.
 
I think what Shorty is complaining about is when his opponent goes off to have a smoke or whatever in the middle of the game.
If the break is allowed once every match during the session in between games then I think it is fine. Basically, this rule allows each player to take a break; essentially, there will be two breaks per match if both players take their breaks. And the break is allowed only when a game is over. I believe this is what I saw happened in the WPBA.

Peace,
Richard
 
Bruce S. de Lis said:
Second Hand Smoke is a Killer, and Smokers are a Dying Breed. I go to Rooms that allow Smoking, but still scratch my head every time I still see people Smoking Cigarettes

Congratulations and good luck Bruce!

But let me make a point regarding a different and convincing opinion regarding the so called dangers of second hand smoke.

The largest study ever made on this issue was conducted by the World Health Organization (WHO) and the International Agency on Research on Cancer (IARC) extending over 10 years and 7 countries. In October 1998, the results were published, showing no statistical relationship between environmental tobacco smoke (ETS) and lung cancer. The American media and the anti-smoking zealots has ignored the results of the WHO study choosing to cite the EPA study. This in spite of the fact that the EPA study has been thoroughly debunked by science and legally vacated by a federal judge, it is still regularly quoted by government agencies, charity organizations and the anti-smoking movement as if it were legitimate.
For more details see: http://www.widigest.com/html/jj101004.htm
 
I am all for smoke free rooms..(obviously I don't smoke)

I wonder though how many players games are affected because they are unable to smoke during a match.

I would imagine that the smoking works as a drug or "relaxer" for a smoker.....advantage non-smoker....
 
To answer directly ...

A break should not be taken during a game unless
it is an emergency. It should be inbetween games.
Less than 9 race, one break per player. 9 and over,
3 breaks total, one per player, one mutual break.
15 and over, 2 breaks per player.

But then, you have the drinking or eating player,
that has to go to the bathroom every 10 minutes
because of a weak bladder. What are you going
to do, tell them they can not go pee? Hell, they
could be in there dropping speed or something to
get a playing bump. I know a few players that
go outside inbetween matches to smoke a duby
before the next match starts.

And I personally find, that cell phone calls in the
middle of a match to be annoying, especially when
they go on for a sizable amount of time, and many
calls, not just one. Big tournaments usually have
rules covering cell phones, little tournaments, like
weekly tournaments, do not. Or during a money
matchup, they can be annoying.
 
nipponbilliards said:
I think what Shorty is complaining about is when his opponent goes off to have a smoke or whatever in the middle of the game.

Peace,
Richard

If that is the case then I definitely agree.
I don't see anything wrong with one break in between games but to disrupt the flow during a game should not be allowed.

JMO,
Koop
 
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