smoothening scratch on ferrule

weiru

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hey, i recently was trying to change my own tip, when i was using the ultimate tip tool to clear the side of the tip with the sandpaper, i think i scratch the ferrule, although now the ferrule is whiter, but it have a rather rough feel. is there any way for me to smoothen it.. make it like normal again? i dont like the feeling of a rough ferrule. and how do i prevent it next time when i change the tip?
 
pls help! need some advice on how to make the ferrule become smooth again
 
Use a finer grit sand paper, like 600 to 1200, 1500, buff and a little wax, should help but thats what useually happens when you do something without the right equiptment. No one is really going to be able to answer for sure without seeing the ferrule. sorrry ,,,,,
 
As was said, you have to gradually polish the scratches out. Sandpaper scratches things so you take the deep scratches out with finer sandpaper and continue sanding with finer and finer grit until the scratches are gone. Of course the ferrule is going to get a little smaller as you take material off. This is where you want something to spin the shaft... al lathe or just a drill.

You're learning. :)
 
it is not a deep scratch, juz surface scratch.. cant be seen, but when u run ur finger over, u will feel it
 
400 grit sandpaper, can also wet it for your final polish.
In the future, wrap a piece of masking tape around the top of the ferrule. That, or a piece of thread tape.
With the masking tape, you will have a tiny bit of overhang on the tip after you remove the tape, but you can carefully sand the tip down the rest of the way to match the ferrule.
Porpers burnisher works good for the final touch on the tip. It will also remove mushrooms.
 
thanks. i will try the sandpaper. anw, what is the porpers burnisher? similar to the pincer of the ultimate tip? when installing the tip, how to keep it in the middle of the ferrule? i do not have a lathe.
 
Yes it is similar. Same principle. The Ultimate Tip Tool is a good tool. I just happen to like Porpers burnisher for that particular job a tad better.
 
Order a shaft pin (the size of your cue) from "Atlas" (Google them). Chuck the new shaft pin in a drill and the other end in your cue shaft. Tighten the base of the drill motor in a bench vise. Use a small "C" clamp to hold the trigger on the drill and spin the shaft on low speed. First use 600 auto "wet" sand paper then 1500, and 2000 if you can get it. Follow up with "White" (light) auto rubbing compound to polish the Ferrel. All this while spinning the shaft on slow speed. Use High speed on the last rubbing compound process. Finish with some good wax on the Ferrel/shaft at high speed.

Tape the wood part of the shaft with blue painters before doing any of the above. Its OK to use some 1500 "wet" sand paper and/or 2000 "lightly" and some Light rubbing compound on the shaft after sanding the ferrel, if you so choose.


Take two aspirins and call me in the morning.

Jerry
 
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hey, i recently was trying to change my own tip, when i was using the ultimate tip tool to clear the side of the tip with the sandpaper, i think i scratch the ferrule, although now the ferrule is whiter, but it have a rather rough feel. is there any way for me to smoothen it.. make it like normal again? i dont like the feeling of a rough ferrule. and how do i prevent it next time when i change the tip?

Razor blade and a lathe. If you don't have that I am sure sanding it will work.
 
Weiru, something that completely slipped my mind because I haven't tipped by hand for awhile now. Do a Google for Porpers Mushroom Grazer.
Seyburts has them. That little overhang that I mentioned can be completely
taken off with one of them. Its a metal cylinder with a sharp carbide cutting ridge on it. If you see a picture of it, you'll know exactly what I'm talking about. For the price, its invaluable for hand tipping.
 
thanks guys. i brought a 400 sandpaper.. rub it against the ferrule, polish it with some ball polish, now they are smooth. but i have some little chip off between the ferrule and the tip. any way to solve them?
 
There is no area between the ferrule and the tip so I'm lost. You'll need a photo or a better description.
 
erm, the is little chip off the edge of the ferrule. so there is some gaps/holes/chipped off between the tip and the ferrule.
 
erm, the is little chip off the edge of the ferrule. so there is some gaps/holes/chipped off between the tip and the ferrule.

This is why it pays to pay someone the little cost of a tip to have a quality job done, unless your not around anyone with the right equiptment and know how. No matter what doing a tip by hand is more than likely never going to look anything like a job done with a lathe. But keep in mind sometimes the little bit of money a tip would cost being installed makes up for haveing headaches like this . Anyhow there should be enough good info and tips here now for you that if you need to do another one you can do a little better job nextime,,,,
 
erm, the is little chip off the edge of the ferrule. so there is some gaps/holes/chipped off between the tip and the ferrule.

Weiru

My advice is to take your stick to a Cue Maker or Repairman with a lathe. One of the problems with cleaning up Ferrules is they might not be perfectly round. You would be surprised how many sticks roll straight on the table and wobble on the lathe. You may have to replace the Ferrule.
 
If there is a chip on the rim of the ferrule, theres not much you can do without taking the tip off and having the ferrule faced.
If you're very careful, put a drop of CA glue ( I take it thats what you used for the tip) and put a tiny drop on the end of a round toothpick. Poke a little bit of glue on the chip and quickly wipe off any excess glue, otherwise you'll get glue on the ferrule and have to clean it again.
Please don't glue your finger to the ferrule or you'll have to spend the rest of your life with a pool cue stuck to your finger. And then it'll be all my fault.
 
Your best bet is to leave it alone, or have your friendly neighborhood cue repair person replace the ferrule. Why? Because whatever you do to solve this problem is only going to create another problem. Ask SK, or KC.
 
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