Snake Oil?

the "deep structure" of how and why certain systems/techniques are effective

I would say 50% of a players ability to play at a higher level depends on their willingness to experiment. There's seldom anything you will ever read that will take the place of time at the pool table. "if you can't hit the cue ball straight, your "magic bullet gun" will be firing blanks".

I've modeled several champion players in my development, however I could never play like them, I just imitated things they did well until I understood how to incorporate them into my own game. There are many variations on grip, stroke, stance, and position play, however, when we understand the "deep structure" of how and why certain techniques are essential it's relatively easy to develop our own system relative to how we want to feel and experience the game.

Once a player has a consistent pre shot routine that produces the same distance from the cue ball, the same feet positions relative to the "line of the shot," and the same upper body angles with the shoulders/arms/wrist/hand/fingers the rest of the game becomes much easier because your stoke can become "grooved" which is critical.

At first every player should put forth the effort to build a powerful, accurate, and dependable stroke. This does take effort and practice, however, there's no easy way to master a difficult game, and I've never met an accomplished player that didn't have to work on his game, especially the process of converting weaknesses into strengths.

Once your stoke is developed it is prudent to start learning how to maximize margin of error in shot-making and position play. Until then, I'd suggest learning the mechanics of a great stroke and model some of your favorite players.
 
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Shit, now that's a ballsy accusation to make. The term "snake oil" carries an almost universal implication that someone is actually selling something (a product, a service, a "system", or whatever) based on falsified claims.

Snake oil is an expression that originally referred to fraudulent health products or unproven medicine but has come to refer to any product with questionable or unverifiable quality or benefit. - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snake_oil

Nowhere in that thread did Fran try to sell swooping lessons, a swooping system, a swooping DVD, etc.

Granted, she's not selling it for money or trying to book lessons, but she says she's 'selling' the concept. Being a master PBIA instructor, what she says will carry a lot of weight with those trying to learn the game. When there are differing opions from respected sources, it's difficult for the uneducated to decide which direction to take, especially when a justification isn't provided. It would be beneficial for the billiard community for her, and others, to be able to provide a solid justification for what they say. She has every opportunity to do so on swooping, but for some reason she hasn't. One has to wonder why she hasn't, or if she can.


On the other thread I gave real-life evidence of increased spin using the swoop technique, along with a plausible explanation as to why it could work. It was ignored (although I'm sure there was lot's of snickering from those "in the know"). Next thing I'll be demanded to demonstrate it on a You Tube video or face accusations of falsifying evidence. Well, f*ck that. I'm a careful observer of physical phenomena, and when I say the ball went from point A on the table to point B on the rail and ended up hitting point C and I show the chalk mark on the CB as evidence of the location of the hit, well that's what happened, believe it or not.

I would think that if there is something to what you're saying, others should be able to duplicate your experiment and results to confirm it. It should stand up to scrutiny. It's also possible that you incorrectly percieve what's happening. I'm courious about your plausible explanation. Please provide a link to it.


Now, about that 50% success rate using CTE........ lol

I think that's good since I've only played worked with it for about two weeks so far. When I learned to aim using the ghost ball method, I don't think my success rate was this good this quickly.
 
Contrast that with many other instructors who seem to answer the tough questions with, "Let's book a lesson when I'm in your area." They can deny it all day long, but the "silent majority" within the membership here sees right through their agenda as can be shown to me by the numerous PMs I've received in the last 1 1/2 years I've been an active member here.

I hear what you're saying. Bear in mind, please:

1) It's easier to fix stance or stroke in person, even if trying to use video Skype rather than email or phone.

2) Students have lots of questions and teachers have lots of answers. In person or on the phone (for free) is ten times simpler than email.

Most of my "write me and I'll help you" emails are handled by email quickly and free of charge. Something like 1 in 20 issues really needs a lesson in person. I'm sure my fellow teachers also give a lot of free as well as paid lessons. The evidence is the time they spend here answering questions kindly.

Also, we teachers love students who are hungry to learn. I'd rather offer a paid lessons to an active poster on this forum than the usual league player who has to be "beaten with a stick" as Tom Simpson puts it, many, many times before they (maybe) get the lesson they sorely need. Get it, sorely? :)

Anyway, I'm not looking to start an argument. Just saying that I see teachers on this forum sharing a lot of time and information free of charge. If they or I offer a lesson, you can say:

1. Sure

2. Maybe

3. Not now

I'll accept any of those, even if it isn't "Wow! Matt Sherman is going to teach me in person himself! Gosh, thanks, bud!" :)
 
I hear what you're saying. Bear in mind, please:

1) It's easier to fix stance or stroke in person, even if trying to use video Skype rather than email or phone.

2) Students have lots of questions and teachers have lots of answers. In person or on the phone (for free) is ten times simpler than email.

Most of my "write me and I'll help you" emails are handled by email quickly and free of charge. Something like 1 in 20 issues really needs a lesson in person. I'm sure my fellow teachers also give a lot of free as well as paid lessons. The evidence is the time they spend here answering questions kindly.

Also, we teachers love students who are hungry to learn. I'd rather offer a paid lessons to an active poster on this forum than the usual league player who has to be "beaten with a stick" as Tom Simpson puts it, many, many times before they (maybe) get the lesson they sorely need. Get it, sorely? :)

Anyway, I'm not looking to start an argument. Just saying that I see teachers on this forum sharing a lot of time and information free of charge. If they or I offer a lesson, you can say:

1. Sure

2. Maybe

3. Not now

I'll accept any of those, even if it isn't "Wow! Matt Sherman is going to teach me in person himself! Gosh, thanks, bud!" :)

Totally "ditto" and "mega-ditto" this.
Just because someone (myself included) has a service/product - doesn't mean you have to pay attention - you are completely free to follow 1 - 2 - or 3 as stated above. Besides, your very "complaint" makes you sound chintzy and petty - not something you want to brag about in public .:eek:
 
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