Snooker stance
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alstl said:
I suspect it is a result of the amount of coaching that players go through during the early stages of the learning process. Most pool players in North America generally play for a while before getting any kind of lessons, at which point the instructor adjusts the stance they have already become comfortable with.
That, and Joe Davis. I think the accepted snooker fundamentals are a direct copy of Joe Davis', which he would have outlined in his book "how I play snooker".
The head is allowed to adjust according to eye dominance
Check this clip starting about 6:30
Grip Pace Eye Dominance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6b258oq0r6U
Check this clip starting about 6:30
Grip Pace Eye Dominance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6b258oq0r6U
Snooker players do what is nessasary to pocket balls. If you said a snooker player was a "ball making machine" youd be close.
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you can deliver the cue alot more consistantly because there are 4 points of contact with the cue and body, bridge, chest, chin back hand.
I cant do it, i never had the coaching to learn how to do it, I couldnt do it now because my back is so bad that I cant get that low, come to think of it I never could get that low, my back has been bad for along time.
I have a friend who is a top snooker player he has had a few 147 breaks in practice and when we play 9ball on a GC4 he breaks with the open bridge and WOW can he hit them hard and straight. needless to say he can beat me easily,
the contrast in styles of the Brits, Americans and the Pillifinos
is amazing and works for all of them, which leads me to one conclusion there is no superior style of fundmentals, its interesting how the different styles of fundmentals seem to work in different parts of the world, and there are great players all over the world.
My personal view is the snooker fundmentals is the most solid way to deliver the cue, but Efren seems to play better, however Ronnie O'Sullivan delivers the cue better than anyone I have ever seen but Efren is a better player, thats what makes our sport a never ending debate, and I like it like that.
I cant do it, i never had the coaching to learn how to do it, I couldnt do it now because my back is so bad that I cant get that low, come to think of it I never could get that low, my back has been bad for along time.
I have a friend who is a top snooker player he has had a few 147 breaks in practice and when we play 9ball on a GC4 he breaks with the open bridge and WOW can he hit them hard and straight. needless to say he can beat me easily,
the contrast in styles of the Brits, Americans and the Pillifinos
is amazing and works for all of them, which leads me to one conclusion there is no superior style of fundmentals, its interesting how the different styles of fundmentals seem to work in different parts of the world, and there are great players all over the world. My personal view is the snooker fundmentals is the most solid way to deliver the cue, but Efren seems to play better, however Ronnie O'Sullivan delivers the cue better than anyone I have ever seen but Efren is a better player, thats what makes our sport a never ending debate, and I like it like that.
I liked the vid...esp. the one where you do the shot to end and back and get it dead center on your tip...I've done it on 9 footers but never on a 12' snooker table...I normally always shot very low but a few years ago started putting my chin to the cue as well...my theory is it creates another point for your mind to register the alignment of the shot versus just your two hands....
henho said:
A very relevant point. I tried to use a snooker stance on a pool table for a while (I've always been a pool player, but I took a lesson early in my development where they tried to teach me the squared-off stance with locked right leg). I'm 6'2", and it was terribly uncomfortable. I've modified it since, but I have tried to keep everything from the ribcage up as snooker-like as possible, because I think the benefits in straight accurate cueing far outweigh the vaguely-defined concept of fluidity that many think the American stance provides, and I think the lack in power in the snooker stroke that many Americans perceive is pure fiction; I think those fundamentals are just as conducive to power as anything else, especially since the perfect alignment mitigates the decrease in accuracy that comes with using a lot of power.
-Andrew
Cameron...Not necessarily! Good instructors know that everyone has a "natural" stance, that fits them. As long as that stance falls within the parameters of what a "good stance" is (balanced, comfortable, and allows free movement of the cuestick), we don't adjust their stance. Now if the stance NEEDS to be adjusted, we'll do it...but we don't automatically adjust someone's stance.
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Cameron Smith said:
Fatboy said:you can deliver the cue alot more consistantly because there are 4 points of contact with the cue and body, bridge, chest, chin back hand.
I cant do it, i never had the coaching to learn how to do it, I couldnt do it now because my back is so bad that I cant get that low, come to think of it I never could get that low, my back has been bad for along time.
I have a friend who is a top snooker player he has had a few 147 breaks in practice and when we play 9ball on a GC4 he breaks with the open bridge and WOW can he hit them hard and straight. needless to say he can beat me easily,
the contrast in styles of the Brits, Americans and the Pillifinos
My personal view is the snooker fundmentals is the most solid way to deliver the cue, but Efren seems to play better, however Ronnie O'Sullivan delivers the cue better than anyone I have ever seen but Efren is a better player, thats what makes our sport a never ending debate, and I like it like that.
Who are you and what have you done with fatboy? Only four grammar mistakes in all that. I get low and put my chin on the cue, the the Brits all have that open stance with one knee bent, the other straight and the appearance that they are almost double jointed at the hip.
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Over the past 2 years my mentor has had me incorporate the snooker stance into my game for long finesse shots requiring center ball, or above center strokes on the cueball. In doing so, my percentages of potting balls has gone up on these shots.
When I heard these 4 points of contact described on television I thought it sounded interesting, so I tried it. I could not get my chin on the cue, it just felt too weird, but I did incorporate the cue on chest point of contact. I immediately noticed my accuracy go up, although it took me a while to really make the change stick. I noticed myself stroking with the cue against my chest for the warmup strokes, but would pull it away on the final stroke, especially if I was making any last second "adjustments". Of course this defeats the purpose of having the cue against the chest. I needed to make any adjustments with my body before the final stroke. Then, after a couple of months of playing this way, I suddenly started to put my chin on the cue, completely without thinking. It felt totally natural to do so, and my accuracy became even better. I have been shooting this way since. So for me it was a two step process to get to this stance, but I think for me it has made a marked improvement in my game.Fatboy said:
