So, how much did he lose ?

JB Cases said:
So you would go to jail for stealing a case?

You cannot steal because you claim a debt. There are civil remedies available that don't require risking arrest.

However i am 100% certain that if you came to my both and showed me a legitimate debt in the form of a deposit against a case that hadn't been delivered then i would absolutely refund you or work something out in your favor. Why? Because that's how i am and i hate to find out that an order s lipped through the cracks. That there are cracks is 100% my fault and neglecting to fix them is inexcusable.
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He's handicap. Don't take him too personally.

You would spot him dragging his knuckles up to your booth.
 
Matt_24 said:
Nobody cares about your opinion.

On anything.

I'd rather give John 10 deposits on 10 un-made cases, and stake him to play Lou Figeroa even one pocket for the rest of eternity than read your opinions on anything.

On behalf of AZBilliards, you are hereby barred from posting. You now have "read-only" status. Good day.
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I find it funny you have the power to know what everyone thinks, you must be someone the NSA would love to have on staff.
 
ShootingHank said:
He's handicap. Don't take him too personally.

You would spot him dragging his knuckles up to your booth.
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...Spot on! I'm 'handicap' Ahahahahaha- What knowledge, brainpower and use of English! LOL!!! What's your first language?

PS- I'm through with playing with cretins and half ass wordsmiths. Goodbye thread.
 
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JB Cases said:
So when i win does that mean the lesson is to keep playing for money? This is what you will never get. You're a small time Charlie. And that's fine but you can't begin to understand me. Me, with all of my issues, am still a better person than you. I don't hide, don't denigrate then apologize then stab in the back as you do. That's you and your way.

You might have backers you might not, it's a story at this point and one that doesn't even really matter because really Lou at this point your only value to the pool community is that you played me. And that value fades a little more each day.

The truth is that people would rather be more like me than more like you. That probably stings a bit but people prefer those who take risks and go for it. And when the risk takers crash the critics get their licks in and the fans have lively risk/reward conversations.

People like me give people like you something to talk about and you're welcome. Your life advice though is not wanted, needed or accurate. I will listen to people whom i respect, who are honest and have actually done worthwhile things.

And again, thank you for helping to promote my business. Every time you respond i get more people looking at my logo and we can do this dance until the end of time. Happy to keep this thread at the top for years if that's how you want it.

Because in the end Lou you will continue to be you and tell your story and i will tell mine but unlike you i get a tangible benefit through more case sales. Why? Because most people don't give a shit about my personal pool exploits when it comes to their case buying decisions. But getting them to see what we make is the problem so every exposure to my logo and website counts. If threads like this, which i didn't start, are that avenue that results in a sale that's great. And it does so again thank you. You won a match and your group got ten thousand dollars to split between you. I consider that to be more than fair compensation for the years of promotion you provide. It's like you allowed me to imprint JB Cases on your forehead. In fact that might be a funny meme.

If i were dishonest and malicious i might have people start threads just to get you to talk about me. But i am not and don't need to promote that way. However i am fully ok with you taking about me wherever you want to and for as long as you want to. And if you lie that's ok too. You're a bonafide professional public relations guy so i know whatever story you tell it will be unprovable but sound plausible. So go for it. My friends will let me know if I need to step in.
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Said the: $35,000, OOPS, $41,000 sucker, lol.

Lou Figueroa
with 10K
secret sauce :-)
 
TATE said:
The bottom line to me is this and all that matters. When it comes right down to it, all the shit talk and bow wow barking. For a decent stake,

Does anybody here really think Lou would play John with his own money?
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In a word, no.

But I would probably take a larger percentage of the bet than previously but only what I would feel comfortable losing. Please consider that I freely confess to not having played for more than $300 a set before my match with JB. The first match was way, way out of my comfort zone and, honestly, I had no idea whether I'd be able to hit the end rail. And that's some of what JB was betting on. He knew I would be way out of my element betting $10,000, whether it was all mine or not. JB always talked about me "getting in the grease" and failing.

Now, having experienced it, I can see that the nerves are not so bad, so I'd take more of it, but only as much as my stake horse, Gail, would tolerate.

Lou Figueroa
 
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JAM said:
I remember at SBE, you enjoyed the action. I always respected that about you, how you would post up without hesitation and enjoy the ride, whether you were staking or playing.

While everybody else is huddled in the corner gossiping about you, JB, you're in the middle of the room having a good time with the majority of folks.

Just like Minnesota Fats says, "You see, there's two different—there's a scuffler and a hustler. A hustler is one that's always in action and gets it once in a while, see, and a good hustler gets it more often. Then there's a scuffler. He never gets it. Understand? All he ever does is waste his time, gets in everybody's way. You understand? He goes through life, and he's a failure."

You're certainly not a scuffler or a failure, JB. Others could only dream of making money in pool, but you actually did it. That's strong! :cool:
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- $55,000.

You go, John.

Lou Figueroa
 
Snooker Theory said:
When John has his nose wide open, I would think he would, but I don't know Lou.
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Thinking we might meet again, I have a nice little set aside if John ever wants to come for it.

But I don't think, for all his bluster, that'll ever happen. Even John Barton is not that stupid.

Lou Figueroa
I think
 
CocoboloCowboy said:
I find it funny you have the power to know what everyone thinks, you must be someone the NSA would love to have on staff.
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You were previously advised that you only have “read only” status. As a self-appointed representative for AZB, a senior member since 2003 (I was 24 years old then, I’m almost 42 now), never banned once, you will respect my authority and accept this initial warning. Please enjoy your read only status, and proceed through the forum accordingly.
 
TATE said:
Even with that, I really don't think Lou would step up with his own money.
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Bottomline: how would you or anyone know?

Who knows how JB had his cut up the first time? He can say all he wants he had it all but really, we can only speculate, especially with Chicken coming up behind him with another $10k.

Lou Figueroa
 
Matt_24 said:
Nobody cares about your opinion.

On anything.

I'd rather give John 10 deposits on 10 un-made cases, and stake him to play Lou Figeroa even one pocket for the rest of eternity than read your opinions on anything.

On behalf of AZBilliards, you are hereby barred from posting. You now have "read-only" status. Good day.
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Greenie!

Lou Figueroa
he shoots
he scores!
 
Here is my Honest, unbiased assessment. I don’t have a dog in the fight. I’ve seen Lou’s game in person. I’ve played Lou. People
Can love him or hate him but He is a really good player. He can run 100 balls at straight pool. He is a great one pocket player. He’s not a pro or world class...but I’d call him a great player. And I’m qualified to make that assessment.

There is simply a talent threshold that I don’t think John could surpass, regardless of who was staking who, or putting up their own money, etc. I watched the video of him beating John 9-7, and due to the nerves (who wouldn’t be on a stream for 10k if you don’t do that all the time) I think he was at, maybe 60% of his true game. MAybe the same could be said for John. If they kept playing and both got comfortable and played better there would still be that disparity.
 
Matt_24 said:
John, I wrote you yesterday on FB - per your request. You seemed sincere enough about wanting to make things write and posted about it several times. You've yet to read it, but you've had time to argue with Lou. As usual, your priorities remain out of wack. Don't bother writing back - I'll pass on the case. Best of luck.
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To be fair, if I recall correctly he said they were travelling. Perhaps he should have replied to you directly (I agree with this assessment, but its not my biz) but there may be other factors involved. Yes, he's been replying to Lou. That is very much his online version of getting his nose opened, for sure...

I seem to recall reading in the past where something like this has occurred, and he made good on it for the customer. I hope you give him the chance to make good on it, and then show us the likely-to-be-beautiful case he would get to you.

To the likely response that it's none of my business, fair enough. I simply like to see stuff like this work out.
 
justadub said:
To be fair, if I recall correctly he said they were travelling. Perhaps he should have replied to you directly (I agree with this assessment, but its not my biz) but there may be other factors involved. Yes, he's been replying to Lou. That is very much his online version of getting his nose opened, for sure...

I seem to recall reading in the past where something like this has occurred, and he made good on it for the customer. I hope you give him the chance to make good on it, and then show us the likely-to-be-beautiful case he would get to you.

To the likely response that it's none of my business, fair enough. I simply like to see stuff like this work out.
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You’re a kind person and I really like your profile picture.
 
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