So Jay,how Did Ya Do???

[jay helfert]

Jay/Fatboy.....what I know about WSOP could be written on the back of a very small postage stamp in capital letters, so not able to discuss any details of the following WSOP participation info with any worthwhile degree of savvy from my side.

That being understood, just thought you might be interested to know that there seems to be a former ex 9 ball pro from Uk called James Akenhead who is apparently doing quite well in it. I don't know the guy myself but some of my friends do. Given the mutual pool background you might want to say hello if your paths cross.

Here's a link to a thread about it in the uk8ball.com website.

http://www.uk8ball.com/viewtopic.php?forum=66&topic=27781

He's not doing too bad. I believe he finished second in the same $1,500 NL event that I made the final 400 or so in. He won over $500,000, not a bad payday.

I think being a pool player helps in poker. You learn how to keep your cool and remain very calm.

 

[gotgame]

That's also why we haven't seen Evgeny Stalev in a while. He also has turned to poker.
Hopefully, only for the time being.

Bowman as well its nuts

 

[jay helfert]

I've always liked Daniel and the way he plays. Is he as cool in person as he is on t.v.? He is probably the only one I like and will watch anymore. There is just too much poker on t.v. for me but I've always loved to play.

Jay maybe you can give us some poker lessons too while you're running pool tourneys

Daniel is fun to play with. He enjoys the game and has fun with his opponents. Some guys don't like all his chatter, but I find him amusing.

 

[fanthom]

I'm not sure why the computer I'm on keeps switching me back to Fatboy's account. It seems I have to log in twice from here to make it stick.

Jay, if you're using FB's computer it sounds like the log-in defaults to his AZB account. It could've been preset (knowingly or unknowingly) as a default whenever AZB Forum is up or active. A simple way around it would be log-in first, then immediately log-out, then log back-in. Doing this will authenticate your log-in as you.

 

[fanthom]

Jay just want to be me,


he has got knocked out 3 time with KK, he has beat me 3 sets of 8ball in a row, HMMM???? wonder whaqts gonna happen next????

Use some reverse logic to reverse fortune. Play him again in pool and beat him 3 times. Then tell him to head back to the tourneys or poker game, wait for the pocket kings and bet it up. And oh Mr. Helfert, did I mention that my gratuity is 10%

 

[jay helfert]

Use some reverse logic to reverse fortune. Play him again in pool and beat him 3 times. Then tell him to head back to the tourneys or poker game, wait for the pocket kings and bet it up. And oh Mr. Helfert, did I mention that my gratuity is 10%

Your 10% will still get you zero. I'm 0 for 3 at the WSOP so far. I will play one more, the $1,500 Limit Hold'em on Saturday, then its hasta la vista to Vegas.
Ming is coming in tomorrow. She'll be playing the women's $1,000 NL, also on Saturday.

 

[jay helfert]

0 for 4 now. It's a crap shoot here. We start with so few chips that you must win quick. The young players are super aggressive, always putting you to the test. They don't care about the money. They want to gamble!

Pool vs. Poker. Pool is 90% skill and 10% luck. Poker is about 50% skill and 50% luck. You can do everything right and still lose. The cards must co-operate. And they haven't with me. I've gone deep in two out of four events, but no money yet. Only about 10% of the field gets paid.

The bigger buy-in events are your best shot, because you start with more chips. You get more play for your money. It would almost be worth it to just come for the Main Event where you start with 20,000 in chips. This 3,000 is for the birds, and I'm stuck $5,500. I can afford it but I don't like it. I can play a lot of $300 and $500 tourneys with that same money.

Oh well, it's the WSOP. I HAD to come!

 

[3RAILKICK]

That's also why we haven't seen Evgeny Stalev in a while. He also has turned to poker.
Hopefully, only for the time being.

Now there's a poker face

 

[jimmy-leggs]

0 for 4 now. It's a crap shoot here. We start with so few chips that you must win quick. The young players are super aggressive, always putting you to the test. They don't care about the money. They want to gamble!

Pool vs. Poker. Pool is 90% skill and 10% luck. Poker is about 50% skill and 50% luck. You can do everything right and still lose. The cards must co-operate. And they haven't with me. I've gone deep in two out of four events, but no money yet. Only about 10% of the field gets paid.

The bigger buy-in events are your best shot, because you start with more chips. You get more play for your money. It would almost be worth it to just come for the Main Event where you start with 20,000 in chips. This 3,000 is for the birds, and I'm stuck $5,500. I can afford it but I don't like it. I can play a lot of $300 and $500 tourneys with that same money.

Oh well, it's the WSOP. I HAD to come!

Sorry for your luck Jay,maybe next year.Thanks for keeping us up to date.

 

[jay helfert]

Went back to the minor leagues yesterday and played a $500 tourney at Caesars. There was 278 players, with a first prize over 40K. I went deep and finally got knocked out about Midnite. I finished 21st, and won the grand sum of $800 plus change. Only 27 players made the money. Poker is SO tough!

At least it felt good to cash. Typically only about 10% of the field makes the money. Not like a pool tourney, where 25% to 33% get paid.

 

[fanthom]

Went back to the minor leagues yesterday and played a $500 tourney at Caesars. There was 278 players, with a first prize over 40K. I went deep and finally got knocked out about Midnite. I finished 21st, and won the grand sum of $800 plus change. Only 27 players made the money. Poker is SO tough!

At least it felt good to cash. Typically only about 10% of the field makes the money. Not like a pool tourney, where 25% to 33% get paid.

Certainly doesn't look like that on TV. To the average viewer, poker looks like gold mine since there's a lot of show of bundles of money ('fake') especially towards the final event. With the amount of investment you put in, and as you say, 50-50 chance, baccharat is beginning to look good. I play a bit of poker and I thought it was more like 80% luck and 20% skill. The reason I said this is somebody with the most brilliant of minds and the highest retentive memory could always be beat by the reverse probabilities. If memory serves me right, stats are just stats. It's not slam dunk.

I was wondering, absent the big money aspect, will poker be as interesting as pool? Personally, I think chess would be more interesting and challenging.