So who was poolkillers/poolkillers81?

[PGHteacher]

Dear boy, as I've pointed out ad nauseum, I am not interested in the content this chap has written, I am interested in the idea.

[Note to self: don't talk Strategy with turkeys].

And ad nauseum that some have pointed out you can’t get the whole idea without reading the whole of the content. This is true of most books past the reading level of Dick & Jane (that’s a children’s book) or else there wouldn’t be a point in writing books; authors would just write introductions. I don’t think you are a “bad sort”; I think that you are one of the more than 50% of the worlds population that thinks they are smarter than everybody else.

 

[Tony_in_MD]

Why, he has had two chances, you have had more and if I may say we are all regretting that situation.

Personally, I don't give two shites what his motivation is.

A lot of effort for a troll!

And, if he was intent on trolling for trolling's sake, wouldn't he think of a more anonymous username second time 'round? I would hazard a guess he's young, idealistic and expecting to take the game of pool by storm.

Weren't we all once? :frown:

I say we give him another chance, and stop being such snobs.

 

[Ghosst]

So we have an almost even split between 1. A moron 2. A troll 3. A newbie trying to be of some help to newer newbies; very interesting. My choices were a crazy person that doesn’t know the difference between “better” and “different”.

Just an inexperienced player that went to bars, thinks they understand pool and tried to help.

That was my vote. 44 pages is just too much for a trolling effort. But this little club of ours isn't that easy to gain entry to; people here are hard on newbies sometimes, unless they're female. And let's not forget we aren't exactly, "a bunch of guys who play pool now and then" either. We're all hooked like crack whores. We will defend our sport to the ends of the earth.

Bar rules by themselves are an insult. Proclaiming your version of bar rules are now the "world-standardized played by everyone else on earth so neener-neener-neener" version is just asking for trouble.

I could be placing faith where it isn't deserved but I think he's just an overambitious young lad with the delusion that scooping is a good idea, and having watched some pros break a rack thinks the elevation in your stance during your break is something akin to his running-at-the-table variant. Perhaps he's the local King-of-the-Youth-Center-Bar-Pool guy and figures he knows what's best.

Just imagine how much he could learn if the instructors here each gave him an hour of their time and he listened.

 

[MoonshineMattK]

I vote poolkillers gets his own special section of AZ

Just like the NPR and Aiming crazies.

 

[Banks]

Just an inexperienced player that went to bars, thinks they understand pool and tried to help.

That was my vote. 44 pages is just too much for a trolling effort. But this little club of ours isn't that easy to gain entry to; people here are hard on newbies sometimes, unless they're female. And let's not forget we aren't exactly, "a bunch of guys who play pool now and then" either. We're all hooked like crack whores. We will defend our sport to the ends of the earth.

Bar rules by themselves are an insult. Proclaiming your version of bar rules are now the "world-standardized played by everyone else on earth so neener-neener-neener" version is just asking for trouble.

I could be placing faith where it isn't deserved but I think he's just an overambitious young lad with the delusion that scooping is a good idea, and having watched some pros break a rack thinks the elevation in your stance during your break is something akin to his running-at-the-table variant. Perhaps he's the local King-of-the-Youth-Center-Bar-Pool guy and figures he knows what's best.

Just imagine how much he could learn if the instructors here each gave him an hour of their time and he listened.

Nah.. the guy was saying something to effect of, even (former) pros he knows play by bar rules. He knew enough to be annoying and he took full advantage of it. Maybe it's ChicagoRJ's son trying to get him back for all of those games of 8b that he didn't want to play!

 

[Ghosst]

Nah.. the guy was saying something to effect of, even (former) pros he knows play by bar rules.

Yes, but I had a "man on a mission" in a previous thread who swore up and down that 8-ball on a barbox was pro-level too. He even swore that because some pros started out on a barbox that it made it legitimate. I was going to bring up Michael Schumacher started out racing gokarts but decided in the end it just wasn't worth it. What put the nail in the coffin for me in that exchange was, "if you don't think barboxes are super awesome you must not be able to play!" That told me everything I needed to know.

PK may be the same way, he saw a pro, one time, hustling on a bar table and figured that meant it that was how the game was played. His idea of a pro might be Jimmy Rae, the dude who got a whole ERO one night!! Who knows what goes on inside people's minds?

Either way, you have to look at it (well maybe we don't) from his point of view; he had an idea and it got squished. Understanding we aren't weekend warriors of the pool world would have helped him a bit but he got backed into a corner by making false claims of, "everyone plays this way".

I just chalk it up to, "newb" and tried to give him some pointers. He didn't listen. We all tried. Maybe during his vacation he'll lurk a little more and learn a bit.

 

[Banks]

super awesome

His idea of a pro might be Jimmy Rae, the dude who got a whole ERO one night!! Who knows what goes on inside people's minds?

Are you making fun of my ERO? :sad:

As for 'super awesome'.. just kinda had to leave it in there! :joyful:

 

[TheThaiger]

Just an inexperienced player that went to bars, thinks they understand pool and tried to help.

That was my vote. 44 pages is just too much for a trolling effort. But this little club of ours isn't that easy to gain entry to; people here are hard on newbies sometimes, unless they're female. And let's not forget we aren't exactly, "a bunch of guys who play pool now and then" either. We're all hooked like crack whores. We will defend our sport to the ends of the earth.

Bar rules by themselves are an insult. Proclaiming your version of bar rules are now the "world-standardized played by everyone else on earth so neener-neener-neener" version is just asking for trouble.

I could be placing faith where it isn't deserved but I think he's just an overambitious young lad with the delusion that scooping is a good idea, and having watched some pros break a rack thinks the elevation in your stance during your break is something akin to his running-at-the-table variant. Perhaps he's the local King-of-the-Youth-Center-Bar-Pool guy and figures he knows what's best.

Just imagine how much he could learn if the instructors here each gave him an hour of their time and he listened.

Good post, but I feel pool needs revolution rather than evolution. Fresh eyes are needed.

Judging by the lack of interest in my Olympics thread in NPR, it seems many over there are not really bothered by what's happening over here, where the British cyclists are sweeping the board, winning gold after gold. British cycling was a shambolic mess for decades, until the likes of Dave Brailsford devised a strategy for improvement, revolutionising the sport from top to bottom. He's just been talking about it following Sir Chris Hoy's latest gold, describing the concept of improving 'performance by the aggregation of marginal gains'. In short, you look for a 1% margin for improvement in everything you do. Interesting stuff, and highly successful.

The greatest barrier to pool's improvement is entrenched attitudes from existing players. The least we can do is be open minded to new ideas.

 

[zpele]

Good post, but I feel pool needs revolution rather than evolution. Fresh eyes are needed.

Judging by the lack of interest in my Olympics thread in NPR, it seems many over there are not really bothered by what's happening over here, where the British cyclists are sweeping the board, winning gold after gold. British cycling was a shambolic mess for decades, until the likes of Dave Brailsford devised a strategy for improvement, revolutionising the sport from top to bottom. He's just been talking about it following Sir Chris Hoy's latest gold, describing the concept of improving 'performance by the aggregation of marginal gains'. In short, you look for a 1% margin for improvement in everything you do. Interesting stuff, and highly successful.

The greatest barrier to pool's improvement is entrenched attitudes from existing players. The least we can do is be open minded to new ideas.

Ahhh I see what you are getting at. You are one of those who wants to fix the pool world. I am too but just go read the damn book before you continue trolling us. You will realize just how retarded it is you stubborn fool.

 

[Ghosst]

Are you making fun of my ERO? :sad:

Actually, I kinda want your autograph dude. That was freakin' awesome man! It was like EIGHT balls in a ROW!!!!

You a pro?
What kind of pool cue do you have?
Which aiming system do you use?
Wanna stay at my house?

You know ... back when I was paying my rent with pool I almost coulda' done that too. But, you know, I had to take some time off. But there was this one shot....

 

[Ghosst]

Judging by the lack of interest in my Olympics thread in NPR, it seems many over there are not really bothered by what's happening over here, where the British cyclists are sweeping the board, winning gold after gold.

Tell me you're not one of those clowns that thinks because an athlete from your country does well it means you're a better person. If you are, please go wave the flag around a little and touch yourself. Just don't post about it.

PS: Keep this crap on track.

Bar Rules are just what the uneducated use. It's not their fault they don't know better until they write a 44 page manual about it.

 

[Banks]

Actually, I kinda want your autograph dude. That was freakin' awesome man! It was like EIGHT balls in a ROW!!!!

You a pro? You probably know I get that one a lot.
What kind of pool cue do you have? A pawn-shop special. I can't reveal the name of the store.
Which aiming system do you use? Depends on which eye is most dominant that day.
Wanna stay at my house? I guess. But, I need lactose-free satin sheets and I like watching QVC while I do my naked yoga in the mornings.

You know ... back when I was paying my rent with pool I almost coulda' done that too. But, you know, I had to take some time off. But there was this one shot....

I'll talk to my APA captain/manager about the autograph thing. Not sure if it would violate my amature status!

Word around my cubicle is that Atwell left town to practice up before I started barking at him..

 

[chevybob20]

I hate bar rules. I hate to argue it out with the idiots that don't know the rules. I feel lucky that most bars in Chattanooga are APA and they play by APA rules.

It's not like that everywhere. If you tried to get ball-in-hand anywhere on the table in most bars there would be a fight, literally. There isn't any way to convince them that the crap bar rules are bad and have to go. So, you have to live with it.

Now, we (AZB people who eat, drink and, sleep pool) want pool to grow to the masses that actually play the game. So, we play 9 ball, 1 pocket, 10 ball, etc., all games that the intended audience would never play. Then, when we play 8 ball, we knowledgeable pool players (the minority of the pool playing world) play by slop rules and BIH anywhere and then wonder why the masses won't spend money on a streaming event much less spend money on a tournament in person.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating rule changes to appease the bar drunks. I'm not even advocating changing at all. I'm just stating that IF we want to appeal to the masses, then we might want to look into and try to understand what the TRUE majority of the pool playing population likes in the game or give up trying to recruit them into our fold.

 

[GeoEnvi]

I vote "Other".

The whole "Manual" reads like something that was written in another language and parsed through a translator software program.

It's easy to pick apart the writer's bizarre choice to develop his own vernacular and esoteric terminology. It's even easier to debate the crazy rule interpretations; we're no strangers to the poolplayer's age-old adversion to local/nationa/world/standardized rules.

But at the end of the debate and nit-picking, one thing remains true:

PK has put forth a very significant effort to document his/her knowledge of pool, if only from a narrow and (often) misleading perspective. Only a handful of posters in these forums can say they've put forth that much effort to pass on knowledge.

Most of us are here for the debate and nitpicking.

 

[MahnaMahna]

Yesterday I took a few pictures with my cell phone.

I will let you all know when my book on the fundamentals of photography comes out.

 

[Ghosst]

No matter how well it may or may not be written you will never convince me to run at a table with a cuestick held out or scrape the cloth off by scooping a jump shot.

 

[FreeShot]

Yesterday I took a few pictures with my cell phone.

I will let you all know when my book on the fundamentals of photography comes out.

Instead of "cell phone" you should call it something like "audio receiver unit" or ARU. Photography can be referred to as "still life simulation reproduction." Then you can call your book "Using ARU's to Produce Still Life Simulation Reproductions." That way everybody will know exactly what you're talking about.

 

[TheThaiger]

Tell me you're not one of those clowns that thinks because an athlete from your country does well it means you're a better person.

You what??

Think you've misread that one, old chap.